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[grkm]

Hi all,

I just bought DAO and can't wait to play it. I'm new to the game, but not the genre. I've played Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, NWN, KOTOR and Mass Effect games.

However, I've been reading on this game it seems like I can be doing a lot of micromanagement, if I choose to.

My question is, how should certain characters be set up? I'd like to play either a Range Rogue or DPS Mage. With Alistair tanking, I'm confused between Leliana, Morrigan and Wynne.

If I decide to Romance a character in the game, do they have to be in my party all the time?

I want to have a rogue in the party for traps, stealing etc, and ideally I want 1 tank and 3 range. Should I go:

Myself: Range rogue, and drop leliana?
Myself: range rogue, keep Leliana and pick between Morrigan and Wynne

Myself: dps mage. pick between Morrigan and Wynne.

Out of Leliana, Morrigan and Wynne, who would be the most useful, at least for a new player in first play through?

And if you feel like throwing in some tactics for them, go right ahead lol!

Thanks a lot!

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

I usually have one rogue, one healer, and two warriors. The rogue is usually Leiliana, unless I'm playing rogue. Either way, I usually romance her.

As to your question on whether or not your romance option needs to be in the party... not really. It helps if you do their quests, but Morrigan doesn't need to leave camp for hers and you only need Leiliana in the party for one random map encounter and for one home invasion. Zevran automatically appears during the only scene when he needs to be present, whether or not you're romancing him. Alistair I've never romanced, but I'm under the impression that you can leave him in camp except during his companion quest.

[grkm]

Ok how about this. I want to have a team of 1 tank and 3 ranged.

Is Alistair a good tank, or should I go with:

Myself tank
Leliana
Morrigan
Wynne

So again, is Alistair a good tank on his own?

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

He's reasonably good, I think, but I usually have two instead of one.

[Blazomancer]

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Modifié par Blazomancer, 26 juin 2013 - 10:20 .

[Blazomancer]

Alistair is a very good tank. Yourself as a rogue archer, Morrigan and Wynne along with him would be a pretty good party. 1 melee, 3 ranged is always a killer set up. However, you might not want to play as an archer in your very first playthrough, as the archer builds up comparatively slowly and is more efficient with certain party setups. Instead, you may consider playing as a melee character (warrior or rogue) or even as a mage. Just a suggestion, it wouldn't matter much though, especially if you choose to keep the difficulty down for your initial playthroughs.

Wynne might prove to be the most useful member for a new player, as she joins as a healer-creation mage, & given the steep learning curve of Origins, keeping a few healing and support options handy seems to be a good idea.

[grkm]

Oh ok thanks Blazo. I'm thinking of going myself as tank, lei, morri, wynne. I assume you don't need 2 tanks...

[Blazomancer]

Well, it would differ from person to person I guess. My very first playthrough was in 'normal', and I had Alistair, Lel and Wynne in my party. My warden was a 2H warrior. So, it was basically playing with a tank and an off-tank. That run felt pretty challenging to me at times.

So, depending on your comfort level, you may or may not feel the need for a bit more muscle. You can always swap your party later. See for yourself and have fun.

[mousestalker]

If what you are after is maximum romantic opportunities then go with Alistair (tank), Leliana (ranged) and Zevran (melee damage) if you are female or yourself as tank, Zevran (melee damage), Morrigan (ranged, magic) and Leliana (ranged) if you are male.

Myself, I prefer Team Snark: (Shale, Zevran, Sten and the PC)

[luna1124]

I use different characters for different areas. I try to use all the characters now, alternating. My first play through, I never used Sten, just left him at camp. Very sad
I did not have Shale on my first few plays...got her later. I always try to keep at least one mage, one rogue and one warrior with the warden. If the warden is a mage/arcane warrior, I sometimes go with 1 warrior and 2 rogues. So, Alistair, Zevran and Leliana. As far as romance goes....let your heart lead you, don't plan on romancing anyone...just see what happens
And no, your LI does not need to be in the group all the time.

[grkm]

So apart from occasional events, would you say that I need 2 tanks to play?

I don't want to be a healer. So I figured I have to haveeither cut out ne in the group (I read that it's better to leave Morrigan as dps?) so I either cut out Alistair and tank myself, or cut out Morrigan or Lei

[luna1124]

I have also played a game with 2 tanks, a human female noble warrior and Alistair, Wynne or Morrigan and either Zevran or Lelianna. It's really preference, you can get the job done with any of them. I do like at least one mage in the party.
During the companion quests, of course you are going to want that particular character along. The ones you don't use all the time will level up when you do choose them, so nothing is lost. In my first play-through, like I said I left Sten at camp the whole game because he was so grumpy. I never gave him armor or a weapon, so at the final battle, he was punching the darkspawn with his fists.
I also killed Zevran in my second play because he turned on my warden in the first game. I never did that again.

[grkm]

Well, I guess it's time to play and find out lol. I think I'll go with myself as dps mage, wynne, lei and Alistair. Thanks all!

[mousestalker]

I have played the game on nightmare with three rogues and four spiders. /bragging

I've also soloed it (very boring) on nightmare just because. Play the game with whomever you want to play it and adjust if you run into trouble or if you think a certain companion is best suited for a particular job. You can usually swap them in and out without much trouble.

Modifié par mousestalker, 27 juin 2013 - 01:04 .

[Kathlyn]

The thing is that there is no one party build that works for every area, fighting darkspawn is not the same as fighting bandits which isn't the same as fighting demons and mages. You may go through one area with one party and have no problems and go through it again with another and barely get through. Best thing to do is try all types of combinations and see how they work out and think about the types of enemies and situations you may be facing.

Alistair is a great tank if you build his character right. I've never used two tanks and never needed to. IMO, the tank build in this game isn't as much fun to play as others, essential but not as fun.

For romance you don't need a character in the party at all (but you do need to talk to them, a lot and that is best done in camp), but for their personal quests you generally do, but not always nor for all parts of their personal quests. Only one that you might miss is Leliana which someone mentioned. Just take her someplace after she tells you about her past.

Most useful for someone new is Wynne because she is a healer, you have so much to keep track of that having someone focused on keeping everyone alive is very helpful.

[luna1124]

mousestalker wrote...

I have played the game on nightmare with three rogues and four spiders. /bragging

I've also soloed it (very boring) on nightmare just because. Play the game with whomever you want to play it and adjust if you run into trouble or if you think a certain companion is best suited for a particular job. You can usually swap them in and out without much trouble.

Oh yea...Rangers with pets...I forgot about them

[luna1124]

Hi Kathlyn,
How are you? Haven't seen you on here much lately

[Bhryaen]

"Team Snark"... lol Great name...

Yes, this game does work best for me using micromanagement. There are "tactics" settings you can use to have everyone do various things, but I reduce those to basics and do my own orchestrations- partly because most of the Tactics make them act disappointingly dimwitted and partly because I prefer my character getting all the kill XP. Then again if you play on low difficulty you can probably get away with little micromanagement, but my first hour of playing DAO involved getting myself killed repeatedly in the Harrowing until I discovered that the Pause button works wonders. I'd gotten used to real-time fighting in NWN, but DAO is like BG or IWD in that you end up regularly needing to survey the field a bit before committing to actions- at least on the higher difficulty settings. How you act in the first several seconds of a battle can sometimes mean life or death.

As to building a party, you can vary it up a lot, but it's fairly standard to go with at least one tank who uses Taunt to keep all bad guy attention on them, a rogue for traps and locks and such, and a mage for the auto-healing (which I do set up in Tactics). Eventually you'll recruit parties more for the funny banter between companions and comments they make here and there- way more of that in DAO than in BG. I agree with Blazo about keeping an eye out to recruit Wynne for your first game- though she's not immediately available. Just keep in mind that kindly-voiced old Wynne will turn on you (try to kill you) for a number of decisions you might make- something no other companion is so wont to do- so maybe be entirely goody-two-shoes the first game or so... or just slowly add healing spells to Morrigan as you level her up.

Being a healer only requires a few spells, so any mage can pick it up and keep on with their other spell acquisition. Also keep in mind that better armor on your tank- plus more defensive shield talents- (as well as magic resistance) will reduce the amount of healing you'll have to do to keep your tank alive during the fight.

[cJohnOne]

For a first run it's fun to have Alistair and Morrigan. I build Alistair 2 Strength to 1 Dexterity. Morrigan comes with a lot of spells to try out but I would get the heal spell first. I wouldn't worry about being ranged or not and just be the off-tank. That is a 2-hander or DW. I love Wynne but I'm not sure about the first playthrough with her. It's fun making the healer tactics like regeneration <75% and heal <50%, I tried Morrigan with heal <75 percent. It worked great.

[luna1124]

Tactics~ My first play, I thought I had set a tactic on Wynne to take a lyrium potion at -90% mana, but actually had it set on -10 mana, so she was chugging those things down like a Dwarf in a brewery. Duh..I finally figured it out

[Jeffonl1]

luna1124 wrote...

Tactics~ My first play, I thought I had set a tactic on Wynne to take a lyrium potion at -90% mana, but actually had it set on -10 mana, so she was chugging those things down like a Dwarf in a brewery. Duh..I finally figured it out

LOL I did something similar with healing potions (the wrong 25%) - I couldn't understand where all my healing potions were going then <face-slap> doh