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[snootz]

Just got him been waiting for this guy for ages since i saw some guy i was playing with tearing up with a freezing flamethrower

I checked for builds and many are suggesting miss incinerate.. but these are threads from back in 2012.. was there any changes to this guy?

I was thinking 6,6,6,0,6 as he looks to use tech burst alot and thats were the damage comes from right?

Also what kind of rotations would be used? ED>Snap Freeze?? IC/Snap freeze? 

[dragaaan]

66606 works really well, but i would highly recommend going for flame shield,
the playstyle depends on your team, if there are good detonaters around concentrate on snapfreeze
if you prefer going your own way, meele plus any of your powers is really good. inc ammo for some extra cheese and you are good to go

others prefer splitting your points between incinerate and your passives goiong 4-4

[DHKany]

6/6/6/0/6 with fire shield evo.
The threads back then was when incinerate was still bugged with freeze combo evo and didn't cause tech explosions without the target dying first.
Snap freeze a lot, energy drain when need be and mix in incinerate and fire shield cheese. Rotation doesn't matter too much since each power both primes and detonates every type of tech explosion.

I use mine with a wraith and it deals damage fine.

the thing to do back then was to snap freeze, ice shield (we didn't know that the rebuff was bugged) and lay waste to the enemy with weapons (piranha, wraith, talon etc. etc.)

Modifié par DHKany, 27 juin 2013 - 10:20 .

[shming]

6/6/6/4/4. I prefer none melee build.

Watch my video if you're interested how I play that build.

[Simba501]

http://kalence.drupa...5!!24X563!5BGC0

[sobit]

Just take everything except snap freeze. It's a boring and weak power. Doesn't do much damage and, I mean, Ice? Seriously? Ice is boring, why not take fire? Incinerate and the fireshield are godly. Oh and that awful sound. Pshhhh... And i think it's bugged somehow :S

[Adamziomal]

http://narida.pytalh...4/GethScanner5/

Warp ammo or Cryo ammo.
Snap Freeze > Shoot> Incinerate = Cryo Explosion

[snootz]

Tried it on silver as i always run new kits there first..

My thoughts after 2 games.. I prefer Playing Cerb over reapers.. due to more shields.. Snap Freeze.. tiny bit of shooting.. energy drain practically took out Phantoms in one go.. Really fun class and topped boards easily/Provided debuffs/Shields at objectives also... Died once or twice.. mainly due to getting cornered (my own stupidity) on glaicer.

My incinerate wasn't rank 6 yet as i was level 18 but still the damage from Freeze/Inc was nice.. The reason i asked about which was the best rotation.. was because i had heard some explosions.. don't happen on the target but around you instead?

I took Damage on final evolution for ED.. perhaps this was a mistake? seeing as if you play the likes of geth/Cerb.. you can keep that 40% damage reduction up ALOT.. Only other Evolutions i am not sure about are.. Radius on ED and Incinerate.. are they worth it? or should i go damage?

[shming]

I see people taking Freeze combo and tech combo evo. I would suggest spend those points else where.

IIRC freeze combo only works on frozen enemies. If they're frozen, they're dead anyway. I prefer the armor damage so I can deal with enemies like ravagers from afar when snap freeze can't reach.

Tech combo is entirely bugged and offers no added damage because snap freeze already have that effect.

[dragaaan]

snootz wrote...

Tried it on silver as i always run new kits there first..

My thoughts after 2 games.. I prefer Playing Cerb over reapers.. due to more shields.. Snap Freeze.. tiny bit of shooting.. energy drain practically took out Phantoms in one go.. Really fun class and topped boards easily/Provided debuffs/Shields at objectives also... Died once or twice.. mainly due to getting cornered (my own stupidity) on glaicer.

My incinerate wasn't rank 6 yet as i was level 18 but still the damage from Freeze/Inc was nice.. The reason i asked about which was the best rotation.. was because i had heard some explosions.. don't happen on the target but around you instead?

I took Damage on final evolution for ED.. perhaps this was a mistake? seeing as if you play the likes of geth/Cerb.. you can keep that 40% damage reduction up ALOT.. Only other Evolutions i am not sure about are.. Radius on ED and Incinerate.. are they worth it? or should i go damage?

i think the "optimal" se tup if you are going 66606 wiuld 
ED: radius drain DR
INC: radius burning damage armor damage(you could go for freeze combo but i prefer AD)
SF: range debuff damage and weakness (taking range on the paladin will give you the double tech combo damage)
fitness: meele (or shields if you like) shield recharge fire shield

take radius on ED and INC because you dont need your powers to do damage but only  for your combos so a larger radius makes it easier to prime. and damage reduciton on energy drain for the same reason. 

[dragaaan]

shming wrote...

I see people taking Freeze combo and tech combo evo. I would suggest spend those points else where.

IIRC freeze combo only works on frozen enemies. If they're frozen, they're dead anyway. I prefer the armor damage so I can deal with enemies like ravagers from afar when snap freeze can't reach.

Tech combo is entirely bugged and offers no added damage because snap freeze already have that effect.

you are right about tech combo not working but i would still go full snap freeze. just take damage and weakness instead.. more ranks = more (double) combo damage

[shming]

snootz wrote...

Tried it on silver as i always run new kits there first..

My thoughts after 2 games.. I prefer Playing Cerb over reapers.. due to more shields.. Snap Freeze.. tiny bit of shooting.. energy drain practically took out Phantoms in one go.. Really fun class and topped boards easily/Provided debuffs/Shields at objectives also... Died once or twice.. mainly due to getting cornered (my own stupidity) on glaicer.

My incinerate wasn't rank 6 yet as i was level 18 but still the damage from Freeze/Inc was nice.. The reason i asked about which was the best rotation.. was because i had heard some explosions.. don't happen on the target but around you instead?

I took Damage on final evolution for ED.. perhaps this was a mistake? seeing as if you play the likes of geth/Cerb.. you can keep that 40% damage reduction up ALOT.. Only other Evolutions i am not sure about are.. Radius on ED and Incinerate.. are they worth it? or should i go damage?

Besides geth, cerb is definitely the other easy faction for a paladin because it has a good mix of organic and mechanical units, also no bull**** power immune units.  You can 2 shot most units with SF+ED as well even on gold.   

Reapers are much harder for a paladin for sure.  Take for example Banshees,  once she have her aura up, shes immune to your powers and you have to rely on your weapons.  Forget meleeing her, unless u want to risk getting syn killed besides you can't set her on fire anyway.  And if you're one of those melee paladins that insist on meleeing everything,  brutes and ravagers will give you a very bad day.

For prime or atlas with no shields I prefer to Snap freeze -> incinerate - > Energy drain -> Snap freeze -> Repeat
Because incinerate + snap freeze the explosion will center around you instead of the target. 

Full damage on ED is great.   I took it as well because I want to get enemies down to armor and health as quickly as I can and finish them off.  If you don't take full damage, you can't SF + ED kill most enemies.    

I always go area on incinerate because it's actually very useful. 

Modifié par shming, 27 juin 2013 - 12:46 .

[Wadmaasi]

shming wrote...

Because incinerate + snap freeze the explosion will center around you instead of the target. 

Isn't that just the visual effect, though?  IIRC it was tested back when the Paladin was new and the actual fire explosion was still happening at the target.

[dragaaan]

Wadmaasi wrote...

shming wrote...

Because incinerate + snap freeze the explosion will center around you instead of the target. 

Isn't that just the visual effect, though?  IIRC it was tested back when the Paladin was new and the actual fire explosion was still happening at the target.

yeah i think so

[shming]

Wadmaasi wrote...

shming wrote...

Because incinerate + snap freeze the explosion will center around you instead of the target. 

Isn't that just the visual effect, though?  IIRC it was tested back when the Paladin was new and the actual fire explosion was still happening at the target.

The explosion still centers around you.  it's not too bad if you have a bunch of dragoons trying to tyson your face.

Modifié par shming, 27 juin 2013 - 12:54 .

[12323432543]

shming wrote...

I see people taking Freeze combo and tech combo evo. I would suggest spend those points else where.

IIRC freeze combo only works on frozen enemies. If they're frozen, they're dead anyway. I prefer the armor damage so I can deal with enemies like ravagers from afar when snap freeze can't reach.

Tech combo is entirely bugged and offers no added damage because snap freeze already have that effect.

If I remember correctly there was a thread recently testing this and it seems this has been fixed.

[shming]

12323432543 wrote...

shming wrote...

I see people taking Freeze combo and tech combo evo. I would suggest spend those points else where.

IIRC freeze combo only works on frozen enemies. If they're frozen, they're dead anyway. I prefer the armor damage so I can deal with enemies like ravagers from afar when snap freeze can't reach.

Tech combo is entirely bugged and offers no added damage because snap freeze already have that effect.

If I remember correctly there was a thread recently testing this and it seems this has been fixed.

It was later confirmed, the bug was not fixed.  

http://social.biowar...ndex/16744074/1

Modifié par shming, 27 juin 2013 - 01:05 .

[Wadmaasi]

shming wrote...
The explosion still centers around you.  it's not too bad if you have a bunch of dragoons trying to tyson your face.

I would swear up and down that I remember reading it was just the visual effect being centered on the player but a quick search isn't turning up a source.  I could easily be wrong (as I am in a great many other cases) 'cause my memory is crap.

[shming]

Wadmaasi wrote...

shming wrote...
The explosion still centers around you.  it's not too bad if you have a bunch of dragoons trying to tyson your face.

I would swear up and down that I remember reading it was just the visual effect being centered on the player but a quick search isn't turning up a source.  I could easily be wrong (as I am in a great many other cases) 'cause my memory is crap.

When I play the paladin I only see enemies take damage from snap freeze and not a fire explosion.    

[ISHYGDDT]

like this

[snootz]

So basically should respec snap freeze for damage and weakness? instead of tech combo?

Also will respec incin radius.. will keep ED with damage evo as i like it the way it is vs heavy shielded enemies..

Anyone have any feedback on last EVO of ED? more damage or Damage reduction?

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It was later confirmed, the bug was not fixed.  

http://social.biowar...ndex/16744074/1



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[shming]

[quote]snootz wrote...


So basically should respec snap freeze for damage and weakness? instead of tech combo?

Also will respec incin radius.. will keep ED with damage evo as i like it the way it is vs heavy shielded enemies..

Anyone have any feedback on last EVO of ED? more damage or Damage reduction?

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If you're a melee heavy paladin, it makes more sense to take damage reduction evo.  

Modifié par shming, 27 juin 2013 - 01:52 .

[NuclearTech76]

ISHYGDDT wrote...

like this

That's pretty much my build as well. I think I may have skimped out on ED evo 6 and put in 3 into passives for a little more weapon damage just because I don't use ED that much other than for shield recharge.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

nvm, the re-retested...

Modifié par Jeremiah12LGeek, 27 juin 2013 - 02:22 .