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Why its no shame to do a remake


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Erez Kristal

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 http://www.forbes.co...e-remakes-ever/

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Except when a remake flops because people accuse it of not being very good like the Total Recall remake or makes people either love it or hate it like Man of Steel. Besides if they were to remake Mass Effect 3 it would be the same garbage here over and over again about how the game isn't want people wanted it to be or how they feel BioWare and EA are ripping them off for making them buy the game again especially since they considered the first try so bad.

They are better off just dropping it and starting something new.

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Problem is that for one good remake we get 20 weak or bad.

BTW: Batman begins is restart, not remake. Little diference here, LArry.

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Noooo! Remake is the worst direction ME could possibly go.

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Yeah. Because I want to play the same goddamn game not even a decade after its release.

The ending sucked. Get over it already.

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Morocco Mole wrote...

Yeah. Because I want to play the same goddamn game not even a decade after its release.


Fable is being remade and that isn't a decade old.

The ending sucked. Get over it already.


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Modifié par BioWareMod04, 02 juillet 2013 - 09:44 .


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I didn't know that giving up on wishing Mass Effect was better actually did anything. O.o

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Fable is being remade and that isn't a decade old.


Speaking of bad games...

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No.

Modifié par BioWareMod04, 02 juillet 2013 - 09:45 .


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If they remake any game, it should be 1 with 3's gameplay. THAT would be baller.

But I'd still want ME4 more.

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erezike wrote...

http://www.forbes.co...e-remakes-ever/


You realize that none of those are remakes of sequels, right? The only point you're getting across is that BioWare could start from scratch by remaking the first Mass Effect and go from there. Which is true.

o Ventus wrote...

Fable is being remade and that isn't a decade old.


It'll be literally the exact same game, though, only with spruced-up graphics. More of an HD remastering, really.

Modifié par dreamgazer, 27 juin 2013 - 11:47 .


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You realize remakes tend to be the same game with nicer graphics and a few improved gameplay mechanics, right?

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 27 juin 2013 - 11:58 .


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Remake? Or Reboot? Both have their pitfalls but given time people might like it. No point discussing it now though there's no market for it.

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Read the article - and I must say that the Keanu Reeves version of The Day the Earth Stood Still is decidedly inferior to the original version, which still remains one of my favorite classic black & white sci-fi films. Also, I seriously cannot believe that they included the Will Smith version of I Am Legend on that list. I've watched numerous film adaptations of the original story (and read the original story), and I'm not really a huge fan of them completely changing the ending to a typical, pat Hollywood ending. The only film I really agree with them on is the Casino Royale remake, which was excellent.

I don't really see BioWare doing some kind of remastered version of the ME trilogy anytime soon. I especially don't see them drastically altering the fate of Shepard who has a finite arc that ends in death. We're not talking about a character like Batman or Spiderman, superheroes who never really die and who can have infinite reboots, or a super-spy like Jame Bond who is basically eternal.

As a fan of some reboots like Nolan's recent Batman trilogy, I'm not against the idea of remakes or reboots if the filmmaker can put a unique spin on things. However, I think BioWare is better off moving on to a new ME game or creating a new IP. If your hope is for some kind of ME3 remake specifically - keep dreaming. I just don't see it making any kind of financial sense for them when ME3 came out just last year.

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 28 juin 2013 - 12:33 .


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CronoDragoon wrote...

If they remake any game, it should be 1 with 3's gameplay. THAT would be baller.

But I'd still want ME4 more.

I'd rather them add the combat of 1 into 2 and 3. Having stats be a far bigger part of the gunplay is why I can go back to the first game more often than its two follow-ups.

However I'd have to agree that it is too early to think of a full on remake or reboot of the Shepard trilogy.

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Stats only breaks immesrsion and role playing, since you are the best human in the galaxy. you should already know what you are doing.

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Rebooting is boolsheet.

Ok, go for it if for you 10mins of Starbrat and endings are more important than ~160 hours of great gaming and BECAUSE of those 10mins you want the rest not count.

Modifié par lecho_himself, 29 juin 2013 - 06:07 .


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lecho_himself wrote...

Rebooting is boolsheet.

Ok, go for it if for you 10mins of Starbrat and endings are more important than ~160 hours of great gaming and BECAUSE of those 10mins you want the rest not count.


I would just remake me3 plot since it isnt coherent and lacks on many fronts


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[quote]o Ventus wrote...

[quote]Morocco Mole wrote...


Fable is being remade and that isn't a decade old.


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You just made my day!:o

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erezike wrote...

Stats only breaks immesrsion and role playing, since you are the best human in the galaxy. you should already know what you are doing.

Not for me. I feel that it adds a sense of progression, that my character is improving along with me and throughout the game.

It's partially why I don't like the soldier as much in 2 and 3. Ammo aside the soldier is as good as he/she is going to be at the primary attack, shooting guns, at the start as at the end. No feeling of improvement, no feeling of progression.

My biggest disappointment with the two sequels was the loss of that feeling.

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voteDC wrote...

erezike wrote...

Stats only breaks immesrsion and role playing, since you are the best human in the galaxy. you should already know what you are doing.

Not for me. I feel that it adds a sense of progression, that my character is improving along with me and throughout the game.

It's partially why I don't like the soldier as much in 2 and 3. Ammo aside the soldier is as good as he/she is going to be at the primary attack, shooting guns, at the start as at the end. No feeling of improvement, no feeling of progression.

My biggest disappointment with the two sequels was the loss of that feeling.


i dont see how having a 30% bonus damage can achieved from exprience- since damage is a matter of gear.
i dont see how acuracy can get in the way of a game that is based on player skill. its your job to do the aiming.

I feel mass effect 2 adressed this better. in me2 its all technology. they should have just started me2 on level 30.
doable now with the gibbed editor.
Dont forget all the characters you meet are the best fighters in the galaxy and are at the prime of their strength. no progression is possibile for them.

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erezike wrote...
no progression is possibile for them.

That is one of the reasons I don't like shooters that much either. No improvement from beginning to end.

You and I obviously want different things from combat in role playing games. You wish to be the best of the best at the very start, I wish to have the feeling of reaching that point.

I really do find it a shame that there couldn't have been a better solution than removal.

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voteDC wrote...

erezike wrote...
no progression is possibile for them.

That is one of the reasons I don't like shooters that much either. No improvement from beginning to end.

You and I obviously want different things from combat in role playing games. You wish to be the best of the best at the very start, I wish to have the feeling of reaching that point.

I really do find it a shame that there couldn't have been a better solution than removal.

Shepard is supposed to be pretty much the Alliance's best right at the start of ME1 - and N7 and under consideration for joining the Spectres. In a game like Mass Effect I find the levelling up and so on a tedious distraction. It does nothing to move the story along and just changes the shooty bits (which then have to be balanced to match, otherwise you end up with the situation where it can be ridiculously easy to kill everything, like could happen in ME1).

As for a remake, no, it would need a reboot. There are too many story issues throughout all three games for a little bit of tweaking and a pure graphics or gameplay remake would be a waste of time. ME3 might've ended up with a million times more stupidity than was required but thanks to all the flaws beforehand it had little or no chance in ending well. They just didn't matter as much before the end because there was still the hope that they may've been somehow resolved. A reboot that's carefully planned from the start, without the involvement of certain people, might well be the greatest game ever made and would inevitably end up fairly different (getting more different the further you got through it).

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ME1 mechanics beats the other in these two ways:

1.) You can crouch
2.) Sprint/Take Cover/Interact are all on separate keys like they should be.

I do like ammo power style of ME2 and ME3 better.

P.S. NO MORE AUTO-DIALOGUE. It completely destroyed the RPG feeling.

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ME1 sprint, crouch, cover - YES
ME1 stats-based aiming - NO. I hate missing someone from the range of bad breath because my level is too low. Absurd.

Stats-based damage and other bonuses are okay tho.

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lecho_himself wrote...


Stats-based damage and other bonuses are okay tho.


Thats gear for you along with morin scietific upgrades.
same effect only it makes more sense...