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I'd rather my warden not show up. She's got her own life.

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Eveangaline wrote...

I'd rather my warden not show up. She's got her own life.



Ummmm.....since she lives in Thedas then that life she has is gone. War has broken out and even though your Warden has herlife, she is obligated to help the Wardens.

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Eveangaline wrote...

I'd rather my warden not show up. She's got her own life.


Unless your Warden is male and went through the Eluvian, or is Queen with Alistair, she wouldn't really have what I call a life... not by normal standards anyway. Have you read The Calling? Or spoken to a Warden Bethany?

The Wardens are all about doing patrols and skirmishes into the Deep Roads. All very secretive stuff too. Sure they have leave, but ultimately they have to go back to the Wardens. Even in Anders case, he expected to be dragged back to the Wardens. They live and die a Wardens death-- as Duncan said, "The Grey Wardens sacrificed everything".

At least with Morrigan the Warden can live a life remotely close to having a family (wife and kid), which is more relevant to the word 'life' than the devotion of life like a Warden.

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The warden and hawke as cameos only.

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i wonder actually if Bioware would allow a import of previous characters like warden or hawke, who would say no, i wouldnt quite the contrary i would encorouge it.

I have said it several times that choosing in the beginning to choose to play as either the warden, hawke or new character is a good compromise and if people say that their storyline is over: choose to play as new character from main menu simple as that.

This kind of solution is lightyears away from what bioware intends to do. However i have never met or spoke to anyone yet who Thinks that it is a bad idea to allow that kind of import. Truly

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twilekaoi wrote...


A really cool idea for a Morrigan/Warden romance would be if the Inquisitor decides to fight against Morrigan; during the battle you and your party have the advantage due to numbers and just when s/he strikes to deal the final blow to a battle-weary Morrigan....

... a sword/staff/dagger blocks it at the very last second, revealing the Warden. Ready to defend his love to the death. Man, I would be swooning all day! That's one save point I won't ever delete.



Only in dreams. =/
BUT on the off chance that it does happen, I'm right with you there on the save point that would never be deleted!

Modifié par Azaron Nightblade, 27 juin 2013 - 10:17 .


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I hope it does /\\/\\/\\

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It's fun to read about other people's "warden". I played through every origin and still love my first one the most (hell, made it my avatar). I too would LOVE to see the Warden in action again but I doubt it will happen. Elves sound different from humans and then there are the choices they made in DA:O. After the Mass Effect Trilogy showed them how quickly the different variables can add up and how passionate people get about the expectation of consistency, Bioware is probably a little hesitant to have direct character carry overs again. Still, I do miss my Warden.

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I'd like to see my warden back in action or a cameo but seems like Bioware isn't going to O'well I hope I'm wrong

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I would be so happy to play him again... (No, I don't want to replay DA:O again)

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Simply_Other wrote...

It's fun to read about other people's "warden". I played through every origin and still love my first one the most (hell, made it my avatar). I too would LOVE to see the Warden in action again but I doubt it will happen. Elves sound different from humans and then there are the choices they made in DA:O. After the Mass Effect Trilogy showed them how quickly the different variables can add up and how passionate people get about the expectation of consistency, Bioware is probably a little hesitant to have direct character carry overs again. Still, I do miss my Warden.


As do I. The problem that I have is although if you play as a new character, what is the Warden, and Hawke doing? I mean really it's basically the same timeline, same Thedas, and really they are not going to have any part in DAIII, The whole Dragon Age world is at war! So while this new character saves Thedas, your Warden, and Hawke just sit back and watch the show......that would just be f'ed up.

Not to mention this is a huge opportunity to bring back the Warden since Morrigion is back. Not to mention I believe Sten is also leading the attack on Thedas, in which case the Warden should confront Sten, and have this dual. It would be epic as you fight Sten, you remind him that you helped him reclaim his sword, and helped him reclaim his honor. Just....man there are so many reasons to bring back the Warden. As for Hawke well I never played DAII, but it seems a good amount of people like Hawke, so I guess it would be nice to bring him back to.

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dsl08002 wrote...

i wonder actually if Bioware would allow a import of previous characters like warden or hawke, who would say no, i wouldnt quite the contrary i would encorouge it.

I have said it several times that choosing in the beginning to choose to play as either the warden, hawke or new character is a good compromise and if people say that their storyline is over: choose to play as new character from main menu simple as that.

This kind of solution is lightyears away from what bioware intends to do. However i have never met or spoke to anyone yet who Thinks that it is a bad idea to allow that kind of import. Truly



Who knows maybe they will, if they do, then it's going to be awesome depending on if they can do it. I believe they can, but it's up to Bioware.

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Eh. Regardless of how they handle the Warden a lot of people will be unhappy - but then, a lot of people are always unhappy for a lot of reason. So, like, whatever.

If anything I'd like them to give all the protagonists closure so we can all move on and remember that Dragon Age is about Thedas and not our hero-shaped special snowflake.

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Dhiro wrote...

Eh. Regardless of how they handle the Warden a lot of people will be unhappy - but then, a lot of people are always unhappy for a lot of reason. So, like, whatever.

If anything I'd like them to give all the protagonists closure so we can all move on and remember that Dragon Age is about Thedas and not our hero-shaped special snowflake.


I want closure to, but the people is by creating to many hero's what you have it what are the other hero's doing, while you play as this hero. Take for example if you played as Chief and in Halo 5 you play as someother guy, or woman that is saving the galaxy, yet what is chief doing? In Halo Reach, and Halo ODST you already know what Chief is doing, but your Warden, and Hawke? What are they doing? Also they are about Thedas because well with out the Warden at least Thedas could have been screwed. And yes there would be unhappy people and can you blame them no. They invested a lot of time with the Warden, and the land of Thedas is in trouble and ALL hero's should be doing there part.

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Mentions in conversations, with specific asides to choices those characters made. That's all I expect.

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dekkerd wrote...

Mentions in conversations, with specific asides to choices those characters made. That's all I expect.


Better than nothing. At least we can hear about the Warden, but the Warden should have a role in this too. Reason being is because if Sten is alive, then he will be leading the attack, and that's the best time to have the Warden have a dule with Sten. Also the Warden's are under attack. Grey Warden, and Alistair should be helping the Warden's out depinding if either one died, or both. This also goes for the Warden's you can recruie in Awakining. And Morrigion is back. LI for the Warden, who can have a child with your Warden. I mean come on this is a great chance to find out more about this child, what Morrigion is going on about, and darn it have your Warden kick some arse.

Modifié par masster blaster, 28 juin 2013 - 10:27 .


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masster blaster wrote...

Dhiro wrote...

Eh. Regardless of how they handle the Warden a lot of people will be unhappy - but then, a lot of people are always unhappy for a lot of reason. So, like, whatever.

If anything I'd like them to give all the protagonists closure so we can all move on and remember that Dragon Age is about Thedas and not our hero-shaped special snowflake.


I want closure to, but the people is by creating to many hero's what you have it what are the other hero's doing, while you play as this hero. Take for example if you played as Chief and in Halo 5 you play as someother guy, or woman that is saving the galaxy, yet what is chief doing? In Halo Reach, and Halo ODST you already know what Chief is doing, but your Warden, and Hawke? What are they doing? Also they are about Thedas because well with out the Warden at least Thedas could have been screwed. And yes there would be unhappy people and can you blame them no. They invested a lot of time with the Warden, and the land of Thedas is in trouble and ALL hero's should be doing there part.


They'll be doing whatever you want them to be doing, of course. They are your characters, after all, which puts BioWare into a tight spot - they will run over many people's headcanons. It's inevitable, if they want to use the Warden and Hawke in the storyline. That's not to say they shouldn't use the characters, if they decide they want to, but personally I'd like better if my Warden/Hawke is being Warden-y/Hawke-ny offscreen.

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Dhiro wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Dhiro wrote...

Eh. Regardless of how they handle the Warden a lot of people will be unhappy - but then, a lot of people are always unhappy for a lot of reason. So, like, whatever.

If anything I'd like them to give all the protagonists closure so we can all move on and remember that Dragon Age is about Thedas and not our hero-shaped special snowflake.


I want closure to, but the people is by creating to many hero's what you have it what are the other hero's doing, while you play as this hero. Take for example if you played as Chief and in Halo 5 you play as someother guy, or woman that is saving the galaxy, yet what is chief doing? In Halo Reach, and Halo ODST you already know what Chief is doing, but your Warden, and Hawke? What are they doing? Also they are about Thedas because well with out the Warden at least Thedas could have been screwed. And yes there would be unhappy people and can you blame them no. They invested a lot of time with the Warden, and the land of Thedas is in trouble and ALL hero's should be doing there part.


They'll be doing whatever you want them to be doing, of course. They are your characters, after all, which puts BioWare into a tight spot - they will run over many people's headcanons. It's inevitable, if they want to use the Warden and Hawke in the storyline. That's not to say they shouldn't use the characters, if they decide they want to, but personally I'd like better if my Warden/Hawke is being Warden-y/Hawke-ny offscreen.


That's great, but they should have a least some screen time. Like for some unfinished business they have to take care of. Also what they can do are act's, or at least hear about the event your Warden and Hawke are doing to help Thedas.

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I can sort of understand wanting to see Hawke again since her story sort of ended in a vague, cliffhangerish way (I don't ever want to see or hear from Hawke again but whatever.) But I'll never understand why we need to see the Warden Commander again. The ending of Dragon Age: Origins actually gave us a ridiculous amount of closure, what with the big goodbye party and then the slides.

THEN they gave us the Awakening expansion to give your character an epic-level campaign and a place to be lord of. THEN they made the Witch Hunt DLC for players who wanted to murder/live happily ever after with Morrigan. I'm about as closured out as I can be at this point.

I guess the one thing that would make me more content with the ending of Origins would be if they disregarded Leiliana's throwaway line at the end of DA2 and had someone in Inquisition mentions that the Warden Commander is off happily killing darkspawn and warden-commandering-it-up in Ameranthine. That's all my warden characters wanted anyway: a good steady job murdering hordes of darkspawn and commanding Grey Wardens.

I often think that for a lot of modern Bioware fans Mass Effect was their first RPG, and they don't really get the concept of making a new hero from scratch each game the way you do in most CRPG series'.

Modifié par Twisted Path, 28 juin 2013 - 11:00 .


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Twisted Path wrote...

I can sort of understand wanting to see Hawke again since her story sort of ended in a vague, cliffhangerish way (I don't ever want to see or hear from Hawke again but whatever.) But I'll never understand why we need to see the Warden Commander again. The ending of Dragon Age: Origins actually gave us a ridiculous amount of closure, what with the big goodbye party and then the slides.

THEN they gave us the Awakening expansion to give your character an epic-level campaign and a place to be lord of. THEN they made the Witch Hunt DLC for players who wanted to murder/live happily ever after with Morrigan. I'm about as closured out as I can be at this point.

I guess the one thing that would make me more content with the ending of Origins would be if they disregarded Leiliana's throwaway line at the end of DA2 and had someone in Inquisition mentions that the Warden Commander is off happily killing darkspawn and warden-commandering-it-up in Ameranthine. That's all my warden characters wanted anyway: a good steady job murdering hordes of darkspawn and commanding Grey Wardens.

I often think that for a lot of modern Bioware fans Mass Effect was their first RPG, and they don't really get the concept of making a new hero from scratch each game the way you do in most CRPG series'.



Ummmmmmmmmmm....... about Witch Hunt..... Your Warden has a choice to kill Morrigon, and if you did I guess you didn't " kill her" Not to mention you can go through the mirror, but one thing is um a big problem..... you.......were....never....suppose...to....come....back....ever. It was a one way trip. Unless they over looked that Morrigon shouldn't  be in Dragon Age 3.

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Better than nothing. At least we can hear about the Warden, but the Warden should have a role in this too. Reason being is because if Sten is alive, then he will be leading the attack, and that's the best time to have the Warden have a dule with Sten. Also the Warden's are under attack. Grey Warden, and Alistair should be helping the Warden's out depinding if either one died, or both. This also goes for the Warden's you can recruie in Awakining. And Morrigion is back. LI for the Warden, who can have a child with your Warden. I mean come on this is a great chance to find out more about this child, what Morrigion is going on about, and darn it have your Warden kick some arse.


OGB is not canon, which pretty well limits that storyline unless they make it so. 
With the multiple generation situation, we don't even know if its technically possible to import the likeness. 
Both the warden and hawke will have roles in the larger conflict, but there is no reason for them to be onscreen. As I said, I expect conversational mentions only. 

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Also making a new hero creates HUGE problems. If they created 5 Dragon Age games and make 5 heroes, but then Thedas is under attack again, then.......What are the other heroes doing? Are they letting their world fall into darkness, or what? Also not to mention it feel like a slap to the face if you romance your LI from this hero you created in any Dragon Age game, and your hero that romanced the LI doesn't do crap about it.

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dekkerd wrote...

masster blaster wrote...


Better than nothing. At least we can hear about the Warden, but the Warden should have a role in this too. Reason being is because if Sten is alive, then he will be leading the attack, and that's the best time to have the Warden have a dule with Sten. Also the Warden's are under attack. Grey Warden, and Alistair should be helping the Warden's out depinding if either one died, or both. This also goes for the Warden's you can recruie in Awakining. And Morrigion is back. LI for the Warden, who can have a child with your Warden. I mean come on this is a great chance to find out more about this child, what Morrigion is going on about, and darn it have your Warden kick some arse.


OGB is not canon, which pretty well limits that storyline unless they make it so. 
With the multiple generation situation, we don't even know if its technically possible to import the likeness. 
Both the warden and hawke will have roles in the larger conflict, but there is no reason for them to be onscreen. As I said, I expect conversational mentions only. 


That's why I said better than nothing.

Modifié par masster blaster, 28 juin 2013 - 11:11 .


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masster blaster wrote...

That's why I said better than nothing.


yes, but then you kept going. So I cited other reasons to crush your hopes and dreams :D

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dekkerd wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

That's why I said better than nothing.


yes, but then you kept going. So I cited other reasons to crush your hopes and dreams :D




Didn't work B)