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[In Exile]

masster blaster wrote...
Ummmm.....since she lives in Thedas then that life she has is gone. War has broken out and even though your Warden has herlife, she is obligated to help the Wardens.

My Warden would tell them to shove a lead pipe up their bunghole. If they had a problem with that, well, killing an archdemon is a lot harder than killing a Warden. 

twilekaoi wrote...
The Wardens are all about doing patrols and skirmishes into the Deep Roads. All very secretive stuff too. Sure they have leave, but ultimately they have to go back to the Wardens. Even in Anders case, he expected to be dragged back to the Wardens. They live and die a Wardens death-- as Duncan said, "The Grey Wardens sacrificed everything".

Again, let them try. I've massacred enough darkspawn to built a Warden fortress out of their skulls. My Warden wouldn't mind adding pushy Warden skulls to their death. 

[masster blaster]

In Exile wrote...

masster blaster wrote...
Ummmm.....since she lives in Thedas then that life she has is gone. War has broken out and even though your Warden has herlife, she is obligated to help the Wardens.

My Warden would tell them to shove a lead pipe up their bunghole. If they had a problem with that, well, killing an archdemon is a lot harder than killing a Warden. 

twilekaoi wrote...
The Wardens are all about doing patrols and skirmishes into the Deep Roads. All very secretive stuff too. Sure they have leave, but ultimately they have to go back to the Wardens. Even in Anders case, he expected to be dragged back to the Wardens. They live and die a Wardens death-- as Duncan said, "The Grey Wardens sacrificed everything".

Again, let them try. I've massacred enough darkspawn to built a Warden fortress out of their skulls. My Warden wouldn't mind adding pushy Warden skulls to their death. 

Good for you. problem with that is let's say the new hero doesn't solve the problem with the Warden's and their enemy they are fighting, and another blight happens. Your Warden had achance to save the order, but now there is nothing left, and all is doomed. Like if you cared that happened, it just all depends. I wouldn't mind if oyu played your Warden a bit, or heard about him/her helping out somewhere else.

[In Exile]

masster blaster wrote...
Good for you. problem with that is let's say the new hero doesn't solve the problem with the Warden's and their enemy they are fighting, and another blight happens. Your Warden had achance to save the order, but now there is nothing left, and all is doomed.

Or my Warden can murder another archdemon - 2/2 baby! Given that the Wardens did jack all in the 5th blight other than recrui the Warden, I'm not seeing their loss. 

Not to mention that the Joining is the only thing that actually matters, and if it's written down you can steal it. Otherwise, I'm sure there are Tevinter mages that could create it again. 

Like if you cared that happened, it just all depends. I wouldn't mind if oyu played your Warden a bit, or heard about him/her helping out somewhere else.

You can care what happens without caring about the Wardens. For example, someone might have a mage PC who wants to rebel with the mages, or a templar PC who wants to support the templar, or a CE PC who wants to help the rioting and rebelling elves. 

Modifié par In Exile, 28 juin 2013 - 11:52 .

[Silfren]

masster blaster wrote...

It would be nice to have your Warden in

Dragon Age: Inquisition. Reason being is because The grey warden's are at war, the Qunari are attacking, and if you let Sten live he's  leading the army I think. Alistair most likely needs the Warden's help, Morrigion is back, and it would be very poor miss you to bring back the Warden to confront her, or side with her, and this would be a chance for the Warden to explore the world.



Now I am not saying the Warden should be the main character again, although it would be cool if you had a choice to play as the warden, Hawke, or this new character. What you all could do is as the new character you play as save's Thedas, you could have act's or some moment's in the game were you play as the Warden for a bit, and Hawke. Not ideal, but it would be nice, and a miss opportunity to not have the Warden, and yes Hawke. HOwever it's up to you, but It would just feel awesome to play as the Warden one last time if need be.

social.bioware.com/3805134/polls/46281/

We are not going to play our Warden from Origins again.  It is time to let it GO already.

[masster blaster]

Silfren wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

It would be nice to have your Warden in

Dragon Age: Inquisition. Reason being is because The grey warden's are at war, the Qunari are attacking, and if you let Sten live he's  leading the army I think. Alistair most likely needs the Warden's help, Morrigion is back, and it would be very poor miss you to bring back the Warden to confront her, or side with her, and this would be a chance for the Warden to explore the world.



Now I am not saying the Warden should be the main character again, although it would be cool if you had a choice to play as the warden, Hawke, or this new character. What you all could do is as the new character you play as save's Thedas, you could have act's or some moment's in the game were you play as the Warden for a bit, and Hawke. Not ideal, but it would be nice, and a miss opportunity to not have the Warden, and yes Hawke. HOwever it's up to you, but It would just feel awesome to play as the Warden one last time if need be.

social.bioware.com/3805134/polls/46281/

We are not going to play our Warden from Origins again.  It is time to let it GO already.

Did you even read? I meant it WOULD be nice. This is a perfect time to bring the Warden back, and  are you Bioware? no. Has Bioware flat out stated no Warden, and no Hawke....no.... at least not to my knowledge that is. Also there are a lot of people that would love to play the Warden again. Just because they can have a new character, doesn't mean they can't bring back the Warden for a FEW part's of the story since the Waden CAN effect how the new character DEALS with the problem.  It would make sense if they at least have a play able option for those parts, or at least over hear about the Warden.

Modifié par masster blaster, 29 juin 2013 - 12:03 .

[Silfren]

masster blaster wrote...

Silfren wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

It would be nice to have your Warden in

Dragon Age: Inquisition. Reason being is because The grey warden's are at war, the Qunari are attacking, and if you let Sten live he's  leading the army I think. Alistair most likely needs the Warden's help, Morrigion is back, and it would be very poor miss you to bring back the Warden to confront her, or side with her, and this would be a chance for the Warden to explore the world.



Now I am not saying the Warden should be the main character again, although it would be cool if you had a choice to play as the warden, Hawke, or this new character. What you all could do is as the new character you play as save's Thedas, you could have act's or some moment's in the game were you play as the Warden for a bit, and Hawke. Not ideal, but it would be nice, and a miss opportunity to not have the Warden, and yes Hawke. HOwever it's up to you, but It would just feel awesome to play as the Warden one last time if need be.

social.bioware.com/3805134/polls/46281/

We are not going to play our Warden from Origins again.  It is time to let it GO already.

Did you even read? I meant it WOULD be nice. This is a perfect time to bring the Warden back, and  are you Bioware? no. Has Bioware flat out stated no Warden, and no Hawke....no.... at least not to my knowledge that is. Also there are a lot of people that would love to play the Warden again. Just because they can have a new character, doesn't mean they can't bring back the Warden for a FEW part's of the story since the Waden CAN effect how the new character DEALS with the problem.  It would make sense if they at least have a play able option for those parts, or at least over hear about the Warden.

Actually Bioware has said no.  It's been made clear that if the Warden came back it would NOT be as a playable character but as an NPC. 

Beyond that, they have clearly stated many, many, many times that each game will feature a new protagonist.  Absolutely nothing they've said has ever so much as implied that we could play our Warden again, and what they have said points toward NOT ever doing so. 

I know a lot of people would love to play the Warden again...in no small part because people keep making the same thread about it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.  But Bioware has already definitively said that IF it happened it would not be as anything more than an NPC.  So I think the jury is pretty much out...if you want to play your Warden again, well that's cool, but it's just not going to happen.

[El Dude 9]

They should let you recreate your past characters in this game but not out of the blue like have a scene where you see a statue of them or are told about them. Then that would save and in DA4 you get the three old MC's as companions.

[dsl08002]

but creating new characters in each game will just spawn new story and variables that is hard to keep track on, When you also face a decision that either hawke or warden made in the past games you sort of get alienized to sure you recognise it as a player but not a the character, you will not be able to either defend your decision or face the consequense of it. not really anyway. ¨

As we have seen Before, nothing really matters the decisions that you have made in the previous games,

I Think that is the main reason that bioware choose to add new characters to each games :

they simply cannot handle it,

[LobselVith8]

In Exile wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Ummmm.....since she lives in Thedas then that life she has is gone. War has broken out and even though your Warden has herlife, she is obligated to help the Wardens.

My Warden would tell them to shove a lead pipe up their bunghole. If they had a problem with that, well, killing an archdemon is a lot harder than killing a Warden.

I don't imagine that my Warden would return to the order, either. When Witch Hunt offered the choice for the Hero of Ferelden to leave everything behind to join Morrigan beyond the Eluvian, it felt like he was giving up everything, and leaving his old life behind. At least, that's how I interpreted my Surana Warden's decision.

Out of curiousity, what was your Warden like?

In Exile wrote...

twilekaoi wrote...

The Wardens are all about doing patrols and skirmishes into the Deep Roads. All very secretive stuff too. Sure they have leave, but ultimately they have to go back to the Wardens. Even in Anders case, he expected to be dragged back to the Wardens. They live and die a Wardens death-- as Duncan said, "The Grey Wardens sacrificed everything".

Again, let them try. I've massacred enough darkspawn to built a Warden fortress out of their skulls. My Warden wouldn't mind adding pushy Warden skulls to their death. 

Considering how some people preferred jumping off a cliff to facing the Hero of Ferelden in battle, I can't imagine many would even try. Even among the Wardens.

[masster blaster]

Silfren wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Silfren wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

It would be nice to have your Warden in

Dragon Age: Inquisition. Reason being is because The grey warden's are at war, the Qunari are attacking, and if you let Sten live he's  leading the army I think. Alistair most likely needs the Warden's help, Morrigion is back, and it would be very poor miss you to bring back the Warden to confront her, or side with her, and this would be a chance for the Warden to explore the world.



Now I am not saying the Warden should be the main character again, although it would be cool if you had a choice to play as the warden, Hawke, or this new character. What you all could do is as the new character you play as save's Thedas, you could have act's or some moment's in the game were you play as the Warden for a bit, and Hawke. Not ideal, but it would be nice, and a miss opportunity to not have the Warden, and yes Hawke. HOwever it's up to you, but It would just feel awesome to play as the Warden one last time if need be.

social.bioware.com/3805134/polls/46281/

We are not going to play our Warden from Origins again.  It is time to let it GO already.

Did you even read? I meant it WOULD be nice. This is a perfect time to bring the Warden back, and  are you Bioware? no. Has Bioware flat out stated no Warden, and no Hawke....no.... at least not to my knowledge that is. Also there are a lot of people that would love to play the Warden again. Just because they can have a new character, doesn't mean they can't bring back the Warden for a FEW part's of the story since the Waden CAN effect how the new character DEALS with the problem.  It would make sense if they at least have a play able option for those parts, or at least over hear about the Warden.

Actually Bioware has said no.  It's been made clear that if the Warden came back it would NOT be as a playable character but as an NPC. 

Beyond that, they have clearly stated many, many, many times that each game will feature a new protagonist.  Absolutely nothing they've said has ever so much as implied that we could play our Warden again, and what they have said points toward NOT ever doing so. 

I know a lot of people would love to play the Warden again...in no small part because people keep making the same thread about it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.  But Bioware has already definitively said that IF it happened it would not be as anything more than an NPC.  So I think the jury is pretty much out...if you want to play your Warden again, well that's cool, but it's just not going to happen.

facepalm. I mean BRING the Warden BACK. It can be either has an NPC, or a playable character. I say let's just wait and see.

Modifié par masster blaster, 29 juin 2013 - 04:54 .

[CrybabyXD]

i see Hawke appearing bc he/she has a set voice actor but warden doesnt i bet it just be a mention by another npc.

[twilekaoi]

Aurkia wrote...

i see Hawke appearing bc he/she has a set voice actor but warden doesnt i bet it just be a mention by another npc.

Knights of the Old Republic PC was a non-voiced, fully customizable character. When the PC makes a physical cameo in its "sequel" The Old Republic years later, Bioware gave that PC a canon look, gender and voice.

It was sort of meh, since my PC was a female. I hope they don't go the same route with the Warden or Hawke, but not impossible considering they've done it before. I agree with Gaider on the basis that if their cameos aren't worth having a physical appearence, don't include them at all.

[LobselVith8]

masster blaster wrote...

facepalm. I mean BRING the Warden BACK. It can be either has an NPC, or a playable character. I say let's just wait and see. 

I'd rather not lose agency over my previous protagonists, especially since I created them and the developers don't know the characters like I do.

[Azaron Nightblade]

twilekaoi wrote...

Aurkia wrote...

i see Hawke appearing bc he/she has a set voice actor but warden doesnt i bet it just be a mention by another npc.

Knights of the Old Republic PC was a non-voiced, fully customizable character. When the PC makes a physical cameo in its "sequel" The Old Republic years later, Bioware gave that PC a canon look, gender and voice.

It was sort of meh, since my PC was a female. I hope they don't go the same route with the Warden or Hawke, but not impossible considering they've done it before. I agree with Gaider on the basis that if their cameos aren't worth having a physical appearence, don't include them at all.

They did make the Exile female in return though - who also makes an appearance in TOR.
Leaving all the reasons aside for not liking Revan's return, his looks wasn't one of them - he was pretty much spot on an older version of my Revan from KOTOR.

[In Exile]

LobselVith8 wrote...
I don't imagine that my Warden would return to the order, either. When Witch Hunt offered the choice for the Hero of Ferelden to leave everything behind  to join Morrigan beyond the Eluvian, it felt like he was giving up everything, and leaving his old life behind.

I didn't see it as "leaving behind", but then I am not the kind of person that really feels "tied" to a life in that way. So in that sense, my own personal view bled into my characters. But I think another big difference is that I never was able to make a character that - other than the Cousland - would have any old life to care about. 

Out of curiousity, what was your Warden like?

Which one? 

My cannon Warden is my Amell mage.  He was very confident - bordering on arrogant - because he was the best in the Circle. Not a planner, a doer. Very much thought that the Chant of light was nonsense. Not a "cause" sort of person, like DA:A Anders, but not someone who would be willing to try and turn apostate (seeing it as stupid). Did not believe in the threat of demons to him, but largely because of his own abilities. Leaped at the chance to become Warden, but never wanted to be a Warden. 

In terms of choice, he thought Jowan was a moron (you'll see this is a running theme shortly), and that he dreamed up his incident. Went to Irvin for advice. Was not willing to cooperate with Irving, but there wasn't much choice there. Happy to leave with Duncan. Not happy with Duncan at Ostagar, about his being so very misleading and dishonest with recruits. Thought Duncan was an idiot because (i) he recruited people clealrly psychologically incapable of being Wardens (Jory)and (ii) later on, after learning about how Wardens kill archdemons, becuase he totally didn't tell anyone that and let the Wardens get massacred at Ostagar. 

He saved the mages, saved the anvil, made peace between Zathrian and the wolves, romanced Morrigan, did the DR, was friendly with everyone and liked his companions, let Alistiar kill Loghain, and asked for the Magi boon.  He also executed the Architect, and believed very strongly that "no quarter" was the only way that the humans, elves, and drawrves could survive against the Blight. Despite not buying the Chantry's story, he did believe that the origin of the Blight was magical, and that magic could eradicate it forever. 

In Exile wrote...
Considering how some people preferred jumping off a cliff to facing the Hero of Ferelden in battle, I can't imagine many would even try. Even among the Wardens.

Agree with you there. 

[In Exile]

twilekaoi wrote...
Knights of the Old Republic PC was a non-voiced, fully customizable character. When the PC makes a physical cameo in its "sequel" The Old Republic years later, Bioware gave that PC a canon look, gender and voice.

Keep in mind the male, LS thing was a LucasArts thing. 

[Il Divo]

In Exile wrote...

Which one? 

My cannon Warden is my Amell mage.  He was very confident - bordering on arrogant - because he was the best in the Circle. Not a planner, a doer. Very much thought that the Chant of light was nonsense. Not a "cause" sort of person, like DA:A Anders, but not someone who would be willing to try and turn apostate (seeing it as stupid). Did not believe in the threat of demons to him, but largely because of his own abilities. Leaped at the chance to become Warden, but never wanted to be a Warden. 

In terms of choice, he thought Jowan was a moron (you'll see this is a running theme shortly), and that he dreamed up his incident. Went to Irvin for advice. Was not willing to cooperate with Irving, but there wasn't much choice there. Happy to leave with Duncan. Not happy with Duncan at Ostagar, about his being so very misleading and dishonest with recruits. Thought Duncan was an idiot because (i) he recruited people clealrly psychologically incapable of being Wardens (Jory)and (ii) later on, after learning about how Wardens kill archdemons, becuase he totally didn't tell anyone that and let the Wardens get massacred at Ostagar. 

He saved the mages, saved the anvil, made peace between Zathrian and the wolves, romanced Morrigan, did the DR, was friendly with everyone and liked his companions, let Alistiar kill Loghain, and asked for the Magi boon.  He also executed the Architect, and believed very strongly that "no quarter" was the only way that the humans, elves, and drawrves could survive against the Blight. Despite not buying the Chantry's story, he did believe that the origin of the Blight was magical, and that magic could eradicate it forever. 

Wow, make your Mage an elf, and this is pretty much identical with how my prime character played out.

Did you go Blood Mage/Arcane Warrior/Battle Mage as well?

[In Exile]

Il Divo wrote...
Wow, make your Mage an elf, and this is pretty much identical with how my prime character played out.

Did you go Blood Mage/Arcane Warrior/Battle Mage as well?

BM/SM/AR, actually. It gets stupid overpowered in DA:A, because you've basically created an unkillable mana battery. Literally the only reason to keep your companions around at that point is to fuel your magic... which I suppose makes my Warden less a mage and more a magister. 

[Eveangaline]

Can't my warden have just gone to her calling in peace?

[Razored1313]

honestly at this point i would settle for a separate character creator/importer that would let me import my wardens appearance. I am curious as to what he would look like (he is a dwarf) with the new graphics style since the change was so radical (i'm referring to DAO-DA2 race appearance changes)

Modifié par froogle345, 02 juillet 2013 - 10:06 .

[nightscrawl]

I like the new protagonist for every game.

[Corades]

It would be nice, why not. I mean, with all the conflicts that run through Thedas, Warden and Hawke should make an appearence, Not as playable characters I'm afraid, but they could join the party at some point for a short period, or have a secondary mission.

Because if I recall well, when I was reading about the Dragon Age Keep, which would allow you to select the choices you made on previous games, they said that at the same time you are creating your Inquisitor you can re-create as well how exactly did your Warden/Hawke looked like. Because, come on, it would be stupid if Hawke do not show up during the mage/templar conflict, or the Warden with the Morrigan issue and the tear in the Veil...

Modifié par Corades, 26 octobre 2013 - 10:20 .

[kross]

I just want to see my warden walk across the screen and kiss Morigan I would cry for hours

[Armadillobait]

 

Ok, I agree with the idea of the Warden being back. Hawke, not so sure, still gotta play through DA2. BUT for those of you who wish to play as say, Hawke, or the Grey Warden, I support you. Those of you who say "let it go", arrogance is bliss. As far as the Warden/Hawke bit goes, I am unsure if you can customize your character's face or not, if so, you can make your character look like the former. May not allow dialogue choices as if you were one of the former, but at least you will have the appearance of your old characters. Mentioning The Warden/Hawke only I could deal with. NPC's saying they've seen The Warden/Hawke in the battle you just fought in I agree with. It is illogical to think, however, that they would be sitting on a lawn chair somewhere on a tropical island or something just watching what is happening like it's some form of entertainment, because they have killed (in the Warden's case) hundreds of darkspawn, and decapitated a dragon that was leading a supposedly unstoppable horde of Darkspawn, I cannot see how the Warden alone (like I said, still gotta play through DA 2 so no opinion on Hawke ATM) would just sit by and watch, especially since Wardens do not get to "retire" due to the Taint being a death sentence. And before ANYONE tries to correct the unstoppable bit, a soldier in the infirmary at Ostagar, and the Chasind at Lothering, the Chasind especially though considering he was screaming about how you couldn't fight the Darkspawn. I have not played DA:I, nor do I own it, but coming upon this and reading some of the comments made me want to say my part. And those of you who want to claim I started with Mass Effect, well, you are right. I believe the characters should be carried throughout the series, even if not the main character, even if they don't get screen time, there should be news as for what they are doing. I do not see how anyone could disagree with at least giving news about them, and as the game is already released and I do not own it I have no idea if there is any of this.