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[Jonata]

WildOrchid wrote...

No, this does not happen with female Shepard. Because males are allowed to hit on gay girls and females aren't allowed to hit on gay guys. /rolleyes
But it's also the fact that Cortez mentions his husband when he talks with Shepard so Shepard automatically assumes he's gay. If Traynor was more obvious than just liking EDI's voice (even straight girls can like female voices duhhh) then this wouldn't happen.

Bioware probably made maleshep dumb on purpose so he can hit on Sam. That's how I see it, otherwise I don't see why there wasn't an option for female Shepard to hit on Cortez as well. I call this bad writing and favoring the straight males.

The fact that you debunked your own theory with a clear explanation (Cortez mentions his husband, so FemShep clearly is aware of his sexuality, while Traynor is not as vocal early on) yet kept lameting some kind of error from BioWare is weird as hell and I think explains pretty well why "everyone is bi" is a fair enough approach. It helps keeping every kind of argument at a distance.

After all, it's not like "everyone is bi" for real, since not every Companion in DA2 talks about having a past with relationships involving both sexes. They're mostly "Hawkesexuals", like someone said, which means that only when you select your PC's gender then their sexuality is locked.

Basically, we could say that in the Dragon Age reality where Hawke is a woman, then Isabela is gay, where in the other Thedas, where Hawke is a man, Isabela is a straight woman. She's not bisexual this way, she actually has some kind of "customizable sexuality" that rest in the player's hands. 

Modifié par Jonata, 30 juin 2013 - 05:01 .

[Plaintiff]

Let's not make Dragon Age any more like Game of Thrones than it is already.

I can see it now: "Talking; The Game! (with some action!)"

And then the expansion pack "Boobs!"

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

LPPrince wrote...

And if they want to go there, of the red variety.

Oh gods that'd be perfect.

PC: Hey that song is pretty omi---- OH **** EVERYONE GET THE **** OUT OF *urk*
*and then everyone died*


Guard 1: I like the part where everyone died.
Guard 2: Meh ASOIF did it better...

[Hazegurl]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

In Exile wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...
Did DAO make it clear?  In other words, was it internal (within the game) or external (forums, or something similar) that let you know that, say, Alistair could not be romanced by a male character?

After the "are you a virign" and licking a lampost in winter conversation, I was pretty sure an Alistair M/M romance was possible my first time through. 

I've always joked with my other gay gamer friends that Alistair is the gayest straight character I've ever seen.

Hey just because he moans "Duncan" during sex doesn't mean anything!!!!

I actually half expected him to say "Duncan" during the sex scenes.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Plaintiff wrote...

Let's not make Dragon Age any more like Game of Thrones than it is already.

I can see it now: "Talking; The Game! (with some action!)"

And then the expansion pack "Boobs!"

Don't be silly "Boobs" is part of the release.

"Sextposition" is the expansion pack.

Modifié par Grand Admiral Cheesecake, 30 juin 2013 - 05:03 .

[LPPrince]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

And if they want to go there, of the red variety.

Oh gods that'd be perfect.

PC: Hey that song is pretty omi---- OH **** EVERYONE GET THE **** OUT OF *urk*
*and then everyone died*


Guard 1: I like the part where everyone died.
Guard 2: Meh ASOIF did it better...

That could be one of the most excellent ways to crush a player and give them reason to want to take a villain/super bad down. An otherwise happy and wonderful relationship, wedding day comes, boom. Insert red. Lots of red, and not talking about embroidery.

Yikes. DAO WAS inspired by A Song of Ice and Fire after all, and you can partially see that in the City Elf origin, as far as weddings go.

[Plaintiff]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Let's not make Dragon Age any more like Game of Thrones than it is already.

I can see it now: "Talking; The Game! (with some action!)"

And then the expansion pack "Boobs!"

Don't be silly "Boobs" is part of the release.

"Sextposition" is the expansion pack.

"It's the game that will literally never, ever, ever end!"

[Jonata]

Plaintiff wrote...

Let's not make Dragon Age any more like Game of Thrones than it is already.

I can see it now: "Talking; The Game! (with some action!)"

And then the expansion pack "Boobs!"

Actually the "Game of Thrones" aspect of Dragon Age is one of its best features, definitely. Hacking, slashing and casting through hordes of generic enemies to gain XPs will never be as exciting as shaping the politics and the balances of power of an entire Empire or mainland. 

That's why, for example, Skyrim's main storyline with Alduin was far more boring than dealing with the Civil War IMO. 

Obviously, if we're talking about turning a BioWare game into a Romance Simulator, instead, I think there's no risk for that. Gaider has been pretty vocal about it in the past, Romance is not going to steal the spotlights from the main plot anytime soon. 

Modifié par Jonata, 30 juin 2013 - 05:08 .

[nightscrawl]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

PC: Hey that song is pretty omi---- OH **** EVERYONE GET THE **** OUT OF *urk*
*and then everyone died*

*Spams reload hotkey.*

[Hazegurl]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Hazegurl wrote...

Tim Curry is better.

You would expect that, true, but then he turns into a demonic hell clown and just completely ruins the mood!

Who doesn't find this sexy?

[LPPrince]

And I'd like more politics to enter the romance subplots of these games. Yet another thing A Song of Ice and Fire did well that can be in DA.

Kind of like the Tyrion Lannister/Sansa Stark/Shae plot line, what if the PC, in love with someone, is forced to marry someone else for the betterment of the situation, whatever that situation is(decided by a baddie or goodie, who knows)?

Thats drama. Political drama, that is VERY interesting.

[nightscrawl]

LPPrince wrote...

And I'd like more politics to enter the romance subplots of these games. Yet another thing A Song of Ice and Fire did well that can be in DA.

Kind of like the Tyrion Lannister/Sansa Stark/Shae plot line, what if the PC, in love with someone, is forced to marry someone else for the betterment of the situation, whatever that situation is(decided by a baddie or goodie, who knows)?

Thats drama. Political drama, that is VERY interesting.

The problem with that though is that it makes certain LI more important than others and pushes the romance to the forefront.


[edit]
Actually, never mind. I missassigned the PC roles when I read your post initially.

Modifié par nightscrawl, 30 juin 2013 - 05:19 .

[Plaintiff]

Jonata wrote...
Actually the "Game of Thrones" aspect of Dragon Age is one of its best features, definitely. Hacking, slashing and casting through hordes of generic enemies to gain XPs will never be as exciting as shaping the politics and the balances of power of an entire Empire or mainland.

I strongly disagree. Game of Thrones is about as interesting as my navel, and my navel doesn't need its own dedicated wiki to understand.

That's why, for example, Skyrim's main storyline with Alduin was far more boring than dealing with the Civil War IMO.

Yeah, somehow I doubt the main quest would've been improved by endless, rambling dialogue or gratuitous female nudity.

[LPPrince]

nightscrawl wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

And I'd like more politics to enter the romance subplots of these games. Yet another thing A Song of Ice and Fire did well that can be in DA.

Kind of like the Tyrion Lannister/Sansa Stark/Shae plot line, what if the PC, in love with someone, is forced to marry someone else for the betterment of the situation, whatever that situation is(decided by a baddie or goodie, who knows)?

Thats drama. Political drama, that is VERY interesting.

The problem with that though is that it makes certain LI more important than others and pushes the romance to the forefront.

I don't see it that way. I see it as-

At some point your character or their armies or whatever are at a disadvantage.

There's a politial marriage or two you can partake in, that will help matters. But chances are its gonna be loveless and just for the sake of the people/army. Should your character be single, then there's no drama besides whether you want to do that or not, but if your character is involved in a romance with anyone, THEN things get interesting.

Meaning equal treatment regardless of gender, sexuality, choice of romance, etc etc. The romance would compliment the plot of that political benefit, not supercede it.

At least from where I'm looking at it.

[LPPrince]

nightscrawl wrote...

[edit]
Actually, never mind. I missassigned the PC roles when I read your post initially.

Ahh, okay. hahaha

[BlueMagitek]

Ya'll talking about the Alistair/Anora thing?

[LPPrince]

Hmm, kinda. Something like that but more dramatic(because its the PC thats going into the political marriage), and something that everyone, man, woman, heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, etc etc could all experience, IF they happen to be in a romance at the time.

Modifié par LPPrince, 30 juin 2013 - 05:26 .

[BlueMagitek]

...so, ya'll talking about that Human Noble / Anora thing?

[Plaintiff]

BlueMagitek wrote...

...so, ya'll talking about that Human Noble / Anora thing?

No, this is more interesting, because a forumgoer thought of it.

[BlueMagitek]

Plaintiff wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

...so, ya'll talking about that Human Noble / Anora thing?

No, this is more interesting, because a forumgoer thought of it.

...so, ya'll are talking about that Male Human Noble / Anora thing when the HN is in a romance with Leliana/Morrigan/Zevran?

[LPPrince]

Think less Human Noble, more Every Background, and some cutscenes and stuff where it gets really emotional and awkward/heart-wrenching.

I'm imagining how Tyrion felt, stuck between the woman he had to marry and the woman he really loved, Sansa being forced to marry someone she wanted nothing to do with, Shae seeing the man she cared for being used as a chess piece while she had to fade away, expressed successfully in a DA game with a DA style.

Something about how A Song of Ice and Fire did it just hit all the right spots.

[Plaintiff]

Don't forget the boobies. Can't have in-depth political drama without 'em.

[LPPrince]

At no point has anyone come in here and stated anything like that, can you please try not derailing the subject?

[BlueMagitek]

I would need to be much more familiar with that series to get any of those. Tyrion is the short guy right? Something about Hodor.

I don't believe there is currently a society in Thedas where that would be a problem, given our companions have tended to be very shrew about the topic.

[Tarek]

Plaintiff wrote...

Let's not make Dragon Age any more like Game of Thrones than it is already.

I can see it now: "Talking; The Game! (with some action!)"

And then the expansion pack "Boobs!"

u mean game of boobs??