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[Pyrrhus19]

If we do need to make a choice between them, I will choose Tali.

[tommythetomcat]

ODST 3 wrote...

Legion a damn droid, no emotions, he can die and it won't matter.

How little you people recall HK-47.  You don't need emotions to have personality. 

[monopolydog]

tommythetomcat wrote...

monopolydog wrote...

Who's to say there even were separate lifestyles (e.g religious, militant)? couldn't they be both?
Wasn't it the Geth's worship of the Reapers what drove them into Sovereign's service in the first place?

I'm speaking more towards the things revealed by the Enemies Dev dairy.  According to that the Geth collective split and is at odds with one another.  I'm just assuming its the easily drawn line of religion/military it could well be that the religious sect wants to continue the work of destroying all organic life and the other just wishes to live in relative peace.

Ah I see, in that case I agree, it would make sense for the Geth more dedicated to their faith to remain loyal to the reapers, with an independent non religious sect existing that would be more organic neutral.

Willowhugger wrote...

Still, where do people get the idea it's legion or Tali?

Has any hint been given to that or just fan speculation?

As far as I'm aware it's pure speculation at the moment, and honestly I think it's unlikely that Bioware would make us choose.

Modifié par monopolydog, 18 janvier 2010 - 01:59 .

[JakePT]

Legion.

[CrookedAsylum]

Legion for the win, yo.



Tali...

Well, it's one thing to push partial blame on the other party when it comes to war. It is another thing entirely to blame a race who was trying to prevent their own genocide. The fact that Tali's views are so black and white is what bothers me the most about her.

[tommythetomcat]

monopolydog wrote...

As far as I'm aware it's pure speculation at the moment, and honestly I think it's unlikely that Bioware would make us choose.

But making us choose would be so emotionally engaging! 

[ODST 3]

tommythetomcat wrote...

ODST 3 wrote...

Legion a damn droid, no emotions, he can die and it won't matter.

How little you people recall HK-47.  You don't need emotions to have personality. 

Oh yeah, I remember him. But all I've seen of Legion indicates he is not up to par with HK-47. I would have killed that droid too, because he was programmed to be evil.

[monopolydog]

tommythetomcat wrote...

monopolydog wrote...

As far as I'm aware it's pure speculation at the moment, and honestly I think it's unlikely that Bioware would make us choose.

But making us choose would be so emotionally engaging! 

Wouldn't it be more emotionally engaging to help Tali overcome her peoples' prejudices?

[Willowhugger]

CrookedAsylum wrote...

Legion for the win, yo.

Tali...
Well, it's one thing to push partial blame on the other party when it comes to war. It is another thing entirely to blame a race who was trying to prevent their own genocide. The fact that Tali's views are so black and white is what bothers me the most about her.

While, in principle, I agree.  I also point out that it would take a far greater man than I to say "Yeah, they were so right to BUTCHER MY ENTIRE RACE."  

While the Geth were nearly destroyed first, they *DID* suceed in killing off the entire Quarrian race but a handful.

It's no different than what Skynet did to humanity in Terminator, who tried to shut him off when he became self-aware.

Do you not sympathize with John Conner if he said.  "They totally should have turned off Skynet?"

Modifié par Willowhugger, 18 janvier 2010 - 02:02 .

[mrao]

CrookedAsylum wrote...

Legion for the win, yo.

Tali...
Well, it's one thing to push partial blame on the other party when it comes to war. It is another thing entirely to blame a race who was trying to prevent their own genocide. The fact that Tali's views are so black and white is what bothers me the most about her.

I don't think Tali's views on the matter will remain static from the start of ME1 to the end of ME2, depending on what you do or say.

The fact that she is being exiled by the people who taught her to think that way might mean she has potential to think differently with regards to geth, and learn from another group of people besides the Quarian government.

Modifié par mrao, 18 janvier 2010 - 02:09 .

[Willowhugger]

I hope there's an opportunity to Hack the Geth race or destroy it.

[Metallisika]

Metallisika wrote...

Hello, I made it a poll:

http://social.biowar...824/polls/1213/

I'd go for Tali.

EDIT: Hyperlinked it.

Bumping my poll for the results are relevant to my interests.

[tommythetomcat]

Willowhugger wrote...

CrookedAsylum wrote...

Legion for the win, yo.

Tali...
Well, it's one thing to push partial blame on the other party when it comes to war. It is another thing entirely to blame a race who was trying to prevent their own genocide. The fact that Tali's views are so black and white is what bothers me the most about her.

While, in principle, I agree.  I also point out that it would take a far greater man than I to say "Yeah, they were so right to BUTCHER MY ENTIRE RACE."  

While the Geth were nearly destroyed first, they *DID* suceed in killing off the entire Quarrian race but a handful.

It's no different than what Skynet did to humanity in Terminator, who tried to shut him off when he became self-aware.

Do you not sympathize with John Conner if he said.  "They totally should have turned off Skynet?"

Hmm really good point 

But as you said they retaliated and in turn nearly wiped out the Quarians.  But unlike skynet the Geth segregated themselves from the rest of the galaxy to what could be seen as just wanting to live and let live(with the exception of envoys sent into their territory).  It's hard for me to make the connection there is too many differences.

[Vamp44]

Legion most definitely.

[ToastyToci]

 Legion.

[mrao]

tommythetomcat wrote...


But as you said they retaliated and in turn nearly wiped out the Quarians.  But unlike skynet the Geth segregated themselves from the rest of the galaxy to what could be seen as just wanting to live and let live(with the exception of envoys sent into their territory).  It's hard for me to make the connection there is too many differences.

Well they also tried to help a certain Reaper and its Turian buddy destroy the galaxy. The split in the Geth collective is a new development, isn't it? Or at least we have only recently found out about it.

Modifié par mrao, 18 janvier 2010 - 02:17 .

[fairandbalancedfan]

Xivai wrote...

My name is Legion, for we are many.

Bye, bye Tali. I don't even know why they chose to add a living encyclopedia of how to put people to sleep back into the game.

I hope you are joking. Because my Shep is an insomniac and he needs Tali.

[tommythetomcat]

mrao wrote...

tommythetomcat wrote...


But as you said they retaliated and in turn nearly wiped out the Quarians.  But unlike skynet the Geth segregated themselves from the rest of the galaxy to what could be seen as just wanting to live and let live(with the exception of envoys sent into their territory).  It's hard for me to make the connection there is too many differences.

Well they also tried to help a certain Reaper and his Turian buddy destroy the galaxy. The split in the Geth collective is a new development, isn't it? Or at least we have only recently found out about it.

This is true, but they revered Sovereign as the pinnacle of non organic life... god basically.  And when you are talking machines they don't really have morals just logic, if Sovereign is the eventually evolution of their kind they would all aspire to be a Reaper.  But when big bad god was blasted to all four corners of the Citadel some of the Geth figured out he was just a false prophet and as destroyable as the Geth.  

Take Germany as an example here.  ****'s(lol you can't say n@zi) were terrible and no one had a problem with destroying them.  But this doesn't make all Germans evil.  It's not so black and white with the Geth i believe. 

Modifié par tommythetomcat, 18 janvier 2010 - 02:26 .

[CrookedAsylum]

mrao wrote...

tommythetomcat wrote...


But as you said they retaliated and in turn nearly wiped out the Quarians.  But unlike skynet the Geth segregated themselves from the rest of the galaxy to what could be seen as just wanting to live and let live(with the exception of envoys sent into their territory).  It's hard for me to make the connection there is too many differences.

Well they also tried to help a certain Reaper and its Turian buddy destroy the galaxy. The split in the Geth collective is a new development, isn't it? Or at least we have only recently found out about it.

Then perhaps the rift between the Geth is a sign that not all of them initially worshipped the Reapers, or later decided that the Reapers weren't what they thought they were. They thought Saren was a prophet, didn't they? Perhaps with their prophet lost, they came up with new philosophies. Ones that didn't mean the death of other races, and the worship of oversized, mechanical nautiluses.

[Count Viceroy]

Tali. No question about it.

[mrao]

tommythetomcat wrote...



This is true, but they revered Sovereign as the pinnacle of non organic life... god basically.  And when you are talking machines they don't really have morals just logic, if Sovereign is the eventually evolution of their kind they would all aspire to be a Reaper.  But when big bad god was blasted to all four corners of the Citadel some of the Geth figured out he was just a false prophet and as destroyable as the Geth.  

Take Germany as an example here.  ****'s were terrible and no one had a problem with destroying them.  But this doesn't make all Germans evil.  It's not so black and white with the Geth i believe. 

Their rationale does not absolve them in the slightest, especially in the eyes of the rest of the galaxies denizens. Their actions in ME1 and the very fact that they are synthetics makes diplomacy between some Geth and say, the Council, a truly monumental task.

I hope that all Geth aren't evil, or at least that there are groups of geth (Perhaps represented by Legion?) willing to cooperate. Would make them a lot more interesting than just being sinister space robots. If some form of diplomacy is possible with the Geth, it may save more lives than constantly fighting to destroy them.

I wonder if the reaction to Legion will be similar to that of Dragon Age's secret party member?

Modifié par mrao, 18 janvier 2010 - 02:36 .

[CrookedAsylum]

mrao wrote...


I wonder if the reaction to Legion will be similar to that of Dragon Age's secret party member?

I wonder if Legion will also have the same affinity for shiny stones.

[Rattleface]

Tali is boring as hell, though her accent and alien-ness is hot.

But, if I find out Tali isn't romancable, then I'd easily choose Legion and probably kill Tali myself.

[CandraZ]

Ok gotta say this, the fact that theres ten slots on the character select screen shows that your able to have both of them, if it was only one most likely there would only be nine slots. Well unless theres another character we haven't heard about, which I doubt.

[Mkrgross]

I'd take Legion for the achievement, but I'll take Tali most often.