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[o Ventus]

Han Shot First wrote...

On a side note, its interesting how many female characters on the squad are not good in social situations...

Liara, Tali. and Traynor can be socially awkward at times, the stereotypical scientist and engineers.

Miranda comes across as being a little cold or standoffish at first.

Jack is, well...Jack.

 I think the men have it worse.

Javik is the last of his people and has a superiority complex. Zaeed is very violent and has had half his face blown off. Jacob cheats on FemShep (but is otherwise relatively normal). James is ambivalent to his own state of being and has a tendency to blame himself for things he has no control over. Thane doesn't take responsibility for his actions.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

StreetMagic wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

On a side note, its interesting how many female characters on the squad are not good in social situations...

Liara, Tali. and Traynor can be socially awkward at times, the stereotypical scientist and engineers.

Miranda comes across as being a little cold or standoffish at first.

Jack is, well...Jack.

Yeah, that is interesting. IME I'm the one who's told to improve on that (from the opposite sex, I mean).

I guess that's one thing that makes ME pretty unique.

I actually like Miranda's aloof and dispassionate personality. It's good to see her warm up during the romance, but outside of it, she's going to be the same rather cold person. She'll be a bit warmer and kinder, sure, but at her core, Miranda isn't a very emotional person.

[o Ventus]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

I actually like Miranda's aloof and dispassionate personality. It's good to see her warm up during the romance, but outside of it, she's going to be the same rather cold person. She'll be a bit warmer and kinder, sure, but at her core, Miranda isn't a very emotional person.

This. Her personality is what enticed me to learn more about her. Not sure how much I agree with the last sentence though. She's as emotional as anyone else (well, depending on who she's interacting with), she just doesn't let her emotions interfere with her work. She's pragmatic to the core, and I respect that.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

o Ventus wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

I actually like Miranda's aloof and dispassionate personality. It's good to see her warm up during the romance, but outside of it, she's going to be the same rather cold person. She'll be a bit warmer and kinder, sure, but at her core, Miranda isn't a very emotional person.

This. Her personality is what enticed me to learn more about her. Not sure how much I agree with the last sentence though. She's as emotional as anyone else (well, depending on who she's interacting with), she just doesn't let her emotions interfere with her work. She's pragmatic to the core, and I respect that.

She's an enigma - a mystery. Complex. 

And that's exciting to me.

[KaiserShep]

And she threw away that black suit you did an entire loyalty mission to pay for. No sentimentality at all.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

KaiserShep wrote...

And she threw away that black suit you did an entire loyalty mission to pay for. No sentimentality at all.

Maybe she lost it. 

You know, being on the run from Cerberus for several months, including one very close call with TIM and his forces.

Sentimentality is useless when you have trained assassin's after you.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 04 juillet 2013 - 05:47 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

StreetMagic wrote...

I like her, but my last playthrough, I decided to side with Jack instead of use the Para/Renegade options. She's a **** after that.

I had to retry a standard Earthborn/Sole Survivor again.. I can't find any compelling reason NOT to side with Jack.

Jack is the one who is starting an unnecessary confrontation with Miranda. She's basically starting an argument to pick a fight. I defuse the argument, but Jack was the one who was starting the problem. Jack is being... Jack, and she needs to learn that that is unacceptable on my ship. That's why I wouldn't side with Jack, even if I didn't romance Miranda.

[Ravensword]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

OniTYME wrote...

Can we keep this on topic?


Like the topic of Legion h4xxing? I can only imagine him playing Call of Spectres and teabagging his victims while quick sniping mgers.

Actually, it just so happens I have a question relating to this topic.

So, what do you guys think about Miranda being a member of a dating site?

I really don't want Mcfly coming back here calling her a sl*t (again), so let's not go there (again) shall we?

She's a career woman who wants the physical benefits to suit her needs, and doesn't want the baggage of a relationship or emotional attachment.

I don't care about how much she gets laid. If what you say of this user is true, then I would conclude that this person is either immature or has a bible up their ass.

True, but then you have theat doctor's report her being unable to reproduce. It's obvious that at one time she might have thought about wanting to start a family but couldn't. I'd wager that she would still keep her career, though. 

Read further into this thread...

Word of God (Miranda's writer in ME3) says that Miranda knew about her infertility before engaging in her liasons. The timing and usernames were oversights on the part of the writer, he admitted as such. He stated that Miranda was indeed a career woman who wasn't interested in emotional baggage or attachment.

So, then her infertility is meaningless if she doesn't even want children. What was the reason for the writers putting in that tidbit of information?

If you ask me, it was pity-pandering on BW's part.

Unfortunately, BW failed at that, b/c Miranda doesn't seem to care much about being infertile. Unless she somehow views this as an imperfection, then that might be important.

In other words, if she doesn't care about it, why should we?

I can't remember if there was a dossier on Ashley, but if it was written w/ the same useless tidbits about her, we would likely see something along the lines of how Ashley enjoys long walks on the beach.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

StreetMagic wrote...

Jack didn't start the problem. She's a lifelong victim, worse than even your (Sole Survivor) Shep. It'd go a lot better if Miranda acknowledges that to her face. She can still maintain her ground while saying it's screwed up.

Jack completely started the problem on the Normandy. I don't give a flying f*** about her problem now. I fixed it for her, and she better fall in line. Now, she's starting crap to start crap, and it will not be tolerated. Otherwise, I'll make her wish that she was back in her cage on Pragia. I'm not going to waste my time feeling sorry for her. It's done, it's over, it's in the past. She better deal with it or her life expectancy will become very short, very soon.

My Sole Survivor doesn't go around acting like a rotten child. He picks up his sticks and moves on. My Shepard doesn't suffer from PTSD - he's a little bit too detached of a person to do that.

Miranda doesn't have to admit anything. She wasn't apart of it, and Jack is the one spoiling for a fight. There's nothing to say or do for Miranda. At all.

There's a lot more than just Jack. We've all had it rough. She needs to get in line.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 04 juillet 2013 - 06:06 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

StreetMagic wrote...

She does admit it though -- but only if you're on good terms. You can specifically ask about Jack and other Cerberus experiments only then. That's what I find weak. She's just witholding the acknowledgement out of spite, rather than admitting to fact. It's a bit out of character in a way.

Not really. Miranda can be a spiteful person. I sympathize completely, since I can be the same. 

Jack has hardly earned any respect, nor does she even warrant an apology from Miranda. If she has problems dealing with that, then she better deal with it before she makes it my problem. 

And what does Miranda kissing Jack's emotional boo-boo do for Jack? 

[MassivelyEffective0730]

StreetMagic wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...


And what does Miranda kissing Jack's emotional boo-boo do for Jack? 

I don't know. Nothing bad at least. And it'd probably work in my benefit though.

It's a lot more interesting than the typical Renegade/Paragon escape plan with some of these disputes. There's more story potential this way (if they wrote it) than picking the I Win button.

And it's more realistic for the Captain of the ship to settle the dispute and get them to lock it down. 

Jack's out for blood against Miranda. I personally don't think she's looking for an apology. I think she wants things to get violent. That's why I don't support her at all. She's rocking the boat, so to speak, and being disrespectful to someone I told her to respect. She may not like Miranda, but if she's smart, she'll do as I say. Because if she disrespects Miranda, then she disrespects me, and then we have a problem.

[o Ventus]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Jack's out for blood against Miranda. I personally don't think she's looking for an apology. I think she wants things to get violent. That's why I don't support her at all. She's rocking the boat, so to speak, and being disrespectful to someone I told her to respect. She may not like Miranda, but if she's smart, she'll do as I say. Because if she disrespects Miranda, then she disrespects me, and then we have a problem.

She starts that fight for absolutely no reason, too. That's the worst part.

[Sir DeLoria]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Dextro Milk wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...
No.

But dead Quarians excites me.

Some fetishes even I will not have, it seems... 

Not a fetish.
I just want to shoot a Quarian now for some reason. Somebody find me that Tali doll!

[o Ventus]

StreetMagic wrote...

What do you mean no reason? For me, it always comes after the Pragia/loyalty quest. That's as good a time as any to air out your beef with a top Cerberus agent.

It happens whenever both loyalt missions are finished.

Taking out your anger on somebody who was wholly unaffiliated with your sh*tty childhood is just stupid.

Drama is fine, I just prefer my drama to be intelligent.

Modifié par o Ventus, 04 juillet 2013 - 06:50 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

StreetMagic wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

What do you mean no reason? For me, it always comes after the Pragia/loyalty quest. That's as good a time as any to air out your beef with a top Cerberus agent.

It happens whenever both loyalt missions are finished.

Taking out your anger on somebody who was wholly I affiliated with your sh*tty childhood is just stupid.

Read the rest of my post. Updated it a bit.

It goes beyond simply liking Miranda. Jack is causing problems that go beyond mere drama and morale of the crew - She's being a very clear, and very present danger to the safety and security to my ship, my crew, my second in command, and myself. My Shepard is at that point more than ready to put her down hard if she doesn't control herself.

And she's causing drama to cause drama. I do care if she vents. Let her vent to me. I'm willing to sit and listen. Or let her vent on the battlefield. But when she starts to take it out on members of my crew, or with anyone in Cerberus for that matter, especially ones completely unaffiliated with the issue, then we have problems. 

As far as I'm concerned, Jack needs to find a way to deal with her problem. She needs to get her **** together. I have no pity, and no sympathy for her when she acts in completely asinine and violent, destructive manner.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 04 juillet 2013 - 07:06 .

[Wolfva2]

o Ventus wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

What do you mean no reason? For me, it always comes after the Pragia/loyalty quest. That's as good a time as any to air out your beef with a top Cerberus agent.

It happens whenever both loyalt missions are finished.

Taking out your anger on somebody who was wholly unaffiliated with your sh*tty childhood is just stupid.

Drama is fine, I just prefer my drama to be intelligent.

Miranda is Cerberus.  Jack sees Miranda, a top TIM leutenant, as the face of the people who kidnapped and tortured her for years, turning her into the extremely messed up woman she is today.  She's not picking a fight for no reason, she's picking a fight because she wants to destroy the people who hurt her, Miranda represents those people.  That Miranda DIDN'T have anything to do with what happened to Jack is beside the point.  Besides, Jack only has Miranda's word for that.  If Miranda had been, say, the Project lead, do you think she would have admitted it to Jack, or Shepard?  (Yes, I know she wasn't.  You know she wasn't.  JACK does NOT know she wasn't.)


And GEE!  Color me surprised that all the Miranda supporters have her icon....<LOL>

[o Ventus]

StreetMagic wrote...

 long as they survive, they eventually become friends anyways -- and I'd like to hear the depth that goes on between them.

Only if Shepard promotes it.