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I just think your morality is irrelevant, except when it comes to yourself. I don't care for casual sex either, but that's my own thing. It's uncool to call people trashy or sl*ts because of it. Moral outrage is necessary when it's really affecting others (racism, oppression, seeing someone kick a dog even, etc), but sexual judgements have always puzzled me. It's not like they're using YOUR genitals - and then being promiscuous with them. :D

OTOH, there are cultures that actually do think they have some ownership in other people's bodies. Some religions think they have a sense of ownership over women. So they make judgements and laws about where and when and how they carry themselves. Some women can't even go outside without being covered up. Their sexual laws have roots in property laws. If that's where your coming from, so be it. It's pretty retarded though.

you're unbelievable, I swear. Honestly, this is actually kind of funny.


If I said Kim Kardashian was a wh*re, would you disagree with me? Can you honestly say you have seen someone before, maybe in high school or college or the work place, and they maybe had a one night stand or two or three or maybe slept around with a bunch of dudes, and you never thought to yourself: "hmm that's sorta trashy/sleezy/grimey" or whatever?


I just find it baffling that you've never had an opinion on a promiscuous skeezer before. To you, are all women just classy beautiful creatures regardless of how they throw there goods around?


I just call it how I see it. If someone's being a douchebag or an a**hole, I'm not gonna say: "well, that's who they are, let's not say it though, because that'd be too harsh". Umm no, I'm gonna call them a douchebag or an a**hole lol

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I know plenty of people who sleep around. I don't toss around the sl*t word. I have a different sense of space than you, I guess. I don't think it's my business one way or the other. Their body. Not mine. If it's someone a friend is dating, and then they come on to me in secret, then it's my business. That's just all kinds of wrong. But for different reasons. It's testing my loyalty.

Nor does it have anything to do with idealization or thinking women are all classy creatures. They're just human. And humans aren't really all that different than other animals.

I don't know what's so unbelievable about me. I think I'm giving you a practical opinion, if anything.

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I know lots of guys who compare girls to cars, they claim they must "test drive" it before they buy it.

I compare girls to sodas, if you want a soda, do you want one that's fresh and unopened, or one that's been opened and sipped a few times by someone else?

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Yeah, I'm 36. I'm pretty sure I'd have to date middle school and high school girls if I wanted an "unsipped soda".

Or maybe a nun. :devil:

Not interested.

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StreetMagic wrote...

I know plenty of people who sleep around. I don't toss around the sl*t word. I have a different sense of space than you, I guess. I don't just think it's my business one way or the other. If it's someone a friend is dating, and then they come on to me in secret, then it's my business. That's just all kinds of wrong.

Nor does it have anything to do with idealization or thinking women are all classy creatures. They're just human. And humans aren't really all that different than other animals.

I don't know what's so unbelievable about me. I think I'm giving you a practical opinion, if anything.

haha bro you said my point of view on the matter is "retarded". When in reality my opinions aren't so out of line with your everyday individual. You on the other hand are all on your holier than thou pedestal, not judging others and none of your business yadi yada. That's not your average person.

Idc who sleeps around with who. And its not any of my business. Im not getting involved with anybody's personal affairs. But if I see a wh*re on tv or an a**hole on the street, I can't help to formulate my own opinion on those individuals based on their actions. After all, I'm only human lol and hey, I figured I'd share my opinion because we're on Da Internetz and this is what we do on forums on the internet, we share our opinions. I'm sorry if my throwing around of the sl*t word hurt your sensitive feelings.

For the record, I have no problem with sl*ts. If a girl wants to be one, then I'm cool with that. But she shouldn't be upset if that's how I view them now. Seriously. That's like smoking mad bud daily and then getting offended when somebody thinks of you as a pot head.

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I know plenty of people who sleep around. I don't toss around the sl*t word. I have a different sense of space than you, I guess. I don't just think it's my business one way or the other. If it's someone a friend is dating, and then they come on to me in secret, then it's my business. That's just all kinds of wrong.

Nor does it have anything to do with idealization or thinking women are all classy creatures. They're just human. And humans aren't really all that different than other animals.

I don't know what's so unbelievable about me. I think I'm giving you a practical opinion, if anything.

haha bro you said my point of view on the matter is "retarded".


No, I didn't. I said if you were a religious nut who thought he owned women, then so be it. But it's retarded. Read again. I'm merely asking if you're retarded. Not saying you're retarded. Not yet at least. ;)

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Mcfly is just trying to get a rise out of people at this point.

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I don't get it. Miranda has some one night stands, what's the big deal?

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Probably just secret Liara fans, getting their potshots in.

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I liked the fact that the SB had intimate details on Cerberus and TIM. Cerberus' power as an organisation was overstated imo, even in ME2. So it was a nice touch to know that someone out there was even better.

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Mcfly616 wrote...

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We really serving up 1950's realness over one-night stands, though?

I never said I haven't had one....or a few. I'm just saying it isn't classy no matter how you twist it. I'm not sure I know anybody that would say its classy.

Define "classy."

Because here, all my life, I'd thought it had to do with moral character.

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Why am I not surprised that this thread basically turned into a discussion about Miranda's sex life?

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Why am I not surprised that this thread basically turned into a discussion about Miranda's sex life?

Because dudes on this website are corny af.

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I liked the fact that the SB had intimate details on Cerberus and TIM. Cerberus' power as an organisation was overstated imo, even in ME2. So it was a nice touch to know that someone out there was even better.


I don't know. Honestly, I really think TIM had more power than he was letting on. I actually believe that he was more of a chessmaster than even the Shadow Broker knows.

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Mcfly616 wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

I just think your morality is irrelevant, except when it comes to yourself. I don't care for casual sex either, but that's my own thing. It's uncool to call people trashy or sl*ts because of it. Moral outrage is necessary when it's really affecting others (racism, oppression, seeing someone kick a dog even, etc), but sexual judgements have always puzzled me. It's not like they're using YOUR genitals - and then being promiscuous with them. :D

OTOH, there are cultures that actually do think they have some ownership in other people's bodies. Some religions think they have a sense of ownership over women. So they make judgements and laws about where and when and how they carry themselves. Some women can't even go outside without being covered up. Their sexual laws have roots in property laws. If that's where your coming from, so be it. It's pretty retarded though.

you're unbelievable, I swear. Honestly, this is actually kind of funny.


If I said Kim Kardashian was a wh*re, would you disagree with me? Can you honestly say you have seen someone before, maybe in high school or college or the work place, and they maybe had a one night stand or two or three or maybe slept around with a bunch of dudes, and you never thought to yourself: "hmm that's sorta trashy/sleezy/grimey" or whatever?


I just find it baffling that you've never had an opinion on a promiscuous skeezer before. To you, are all women just classy beautiful creatures regardless of how they throw there goods around?


I just call it how I see it. If someone's being a douchebag or an a**hole, I'm not gonna say: "well, that's who they are, let's not say it though, because that'd be too harsh". Umm no, I'm gonna call them a douchebag or an a**hole lol


Honestly I couldn't tell you if Kim Kardashian is one or not, I don't follow that stuff. considering your calling her that, means that she is taking money for sex? At most I would call her a rich b**ch but a wh*re? not really, i mean if she is cheating on her husband, tho IMO calling someone who cheats on a loved one is much worse than any wh*re. And calling her that, honestly makes wh*res look bad, at least they are honest about there trade, pay for sex.

Not in Highschool anymore and opionions change. If she has a bunch of one night stands, as long as she isn't leading them onto a relationship and ruining there lives, I don't see the issue with it. I dont do that but nothing says anyone else can, and needs to be "shuned"

Now I know a guy who would go around and pop girls cherries and was proud of it, I hate that kind of guy. And feel sorry for the women he hurts in the process.

And no I don't have that kind of view. but I also dont consider anyone who has more than 1 sexual partner a sl*t either. So what if she has a different partner everyday, "NOT MY PLACE TO JUDGE" 

The whole "Call them like I see them" only works until you get your face punched in, or shot, or stabbed to death. On the internet you can call anyone anything and get away with it, and honestly end up being called a troll for it.

so now that we have completely derailed the topic, and putting the whole "Miranda's sex life" behind us.

The coolest thing....  honestly all of it, I think Hackett's one is on the top of it tho. Gave him alot of respect

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isnudo wrote...

I liked the fact that the SB had intimate details on Cerberus and TIM. Cerberus' power as an organisation was overstated imo, even in ME2. So it was a nice touch to know that someone out there was even better.


I don't know. Honestly, I really think TIM had more power than he was letting on. I actually believe that he was more of a chessmaster than even the Shadow Broker knows.


I think you're just romantizicing Cerberus a little bit too much. Bringing back Shepard was a monumental feat, but that was simply luck of the technology to bring him back to even existing and then having the necessary credits to acheive Project Lazarus' goal. And as for Cerberus' power, according to EDI Cerberus was made up of 3 cells, two of which ended in many Cerberus operatives dying (Overlord and Lazarus).

Simply put, the Shadow Broker is easily much stronger than Cerberus. He had an older network, a more spread out network and wasn't aleinating potential assets by focusing on pro-human motivations.

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I found the video of Aethyta headbutting a Krogan to be awesome! Man, I wish she was romanceable! I love me some headstrong people!

It would make for an awkward reunion, though... since I romanced her daughter, off-screen, with the genesis comic... since I am too lazy to import my actual ME playthrough, at this point...

Oh, and speaking of Krogans, I love Thane's secondary tactic for assassinating one: Bombs!

I also found Samara's entry... a bit sad and interesting... with that cup that was fixed with glue... and all the things she gave up to become a Justicar... and her final message from a daughters (one of them didn't want to talk, though... I forgot who).

And the lack of info about Morinth was surprising! That good at hiding, huh? I even killed Samara (in another save), just to see if there would be any information!

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xlegionx wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

isnudo wrote...

I liked the fact that the SB had intimate details on Cerberus and TIM. Cerberus' power as an organisation was overstated imo, even in ME2. So it was a nice touch to know that someone out there was even better.


I don't know. Honestly, I really think TIM had more power than he was letting on. I actually believe that he was more of a chessmaster than even the Shadow Broker knows.


I think you're just romantizicing Cerberus a little bit too much. Bringing back Shepard was a monumental feat, but that was simply luck of the technology to bring him back to even existing and then having the necessary credits to acheive Project Lazarus' goal. And as for Cerberus' power, according to EDI Cerberus was made up of 3 cells, two of which ended in many Cerberus operatives dying (Overlord and Lazarus).

Simply put, the Shadow Broker is easily much stronger than Cerberus. He had an older network, a more spread out network and wasn't aleinating potential assets by focusing on pro-human motivations.


I don't think I am. I wasn't talking about any of the cells that Cerberus had, or even really about Cerberus. 

I'm talking about TIM. I honestly think he has more than a few aces up his sleeves, and yes, even though I have no evidence to back it up, I do believe TIM really was playing the Shadow Broker. I think TIM was playing everybody really. The only ones he couldn't do that to were the Reapers. And he did come a lot closer than anyone before him. As far as accomplishing the impossible, he drives it really well.

BTW, pro-human =/= alienating assets. 

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**** isn't even one of the things that comes to mind about Kim Kardashian. I just don't understand why she's famous. Famous for being famous. That's enough reason to be annoyed.

/offtopic

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

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I don't know. Honestly, I really think TIM had more power than he was letting on. I actually believe that he was more of a chessmaster than even the Shadow Broker knows.


I think you're just romantizicing Cerberus a little bit too much. Bringing back Shepard was a monumental feat, but that was simply luck of the technology to bring him back to even existing and then having the necessary credits to acheive Project Lazarus' goal. And as for Cerberus' power, according to EDI Cerberus was made up of 3 cells, two of which ended in many Cerberus operatives dying (Overlord and Lazarus).

Simply put, the Shadow Broker is easily much stronger than Cerberus. He had an older network, a more spread out network and wasn't aleinating potential assets by focusing on pro-human motivations.


I don't think I am. I wasn't talking about any of the cells that Cerberus had, or even really about Cerberus. 

I'm talking about TIM. I honestly think he has more than a few aces up his sleeves, and yes, even though I have no evidence to back it up, I do believe TIM really was playing the Shadow Broker. I think TIM was playing everybody really. The only ones he couldn't do that to were the Reapers.

BTW, pro-human =/= alienating assets. 


Well even talking about about TIm himself, that last point still applies. The Shadow Broker just has much more to work with. We're talking about an info and resource network built up over a few centuries compared to a few decades.

And yes most of the time being pro-human doesn't mean alienating assets, but I'm sure there might be a few situations where accepting resources, doing something, etc. could help another species more than it would help humanity and that might give them pause.

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TIM reminds me of Dick Cheney in a way (except more covert). He gets a lot of his power from the military industrial complex.. defense oriented corporations. There's probably a lot of them in this timeline. He also has or had secret ties to the Alliance. Shadow Broker probably isn't as well equipped with manufacturing resources like that. He employs mercs, but he mostly just an information broker.

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xlegionx wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

xlegionx wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

I don't know. Honestly, I really think TIM had more power than he was letting on. I actually believe that he was more of a chessmaster than even the Shadow Broker knows.


I think you're just romantizicing Cerberus a little bit too much. Bringing back Shepard was a monumental feat, but that was simply luck of the technology to bring him back to even existing and then having the necessary credits to acheive Project Lazarus' goal. And as for Cerberus' power, according to EDI Cerberus was made up of 3 cells, two of which ended in many Cerberus operatives dying (Overlord and Lazarus).

Simply put, the Shadow Broker is easily much stronger than Cerberus. He had an older network, a more spread out network and wasn't aleinating potential assets by focusing on pro-human motivations.


I don't think I am. I wasn't talking about any of the cells that Cerberus had, or even really about Cerberus. 

I'm talking about TIM. I honestly think he has more than a few aces up his sleeves, and yes, even though I have no evidence to back it up, I do believe TIM really was playing the Shadow Broker. I think TIM was playing everybody really. The only ones he couldn't do that to were the Reapers.

BTW, pro-human =/= alienating assets. 


Well even talking about about TIm himself, that last point still applies. The Shadow Broker just has much more to work with. We're talking about an info and resource network built up over a few centuries compared to a few decades.

And yes most of the time being pro-human doesn't mean alienating assets, but I'm sure there might be a few situations where accepting resources, doing something, etc. could help another species more than it would help humanity and that might give them pause.


See, I just can't help but feel that TIM is, in a way, piggybacking off of the Shadow Broker without him (SB) realizing it. I'm not denying the network the SB has built up, and I don't think TIM is either. 

What I'm saying is that I think TIM has a lot more influence and projection within the SB's organization than we're shown. Just as the SB has bugs in the Cerberus networks, I think TIM has counter-bugs in place. I'm not saying TIM is the puppet master, but I believe that he has access to SB systems, and that even the SB has no clue that he's there.

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Miranada isn't a **** though, lol. 

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I guess she's a **** if you happen to like 100 year old virgin Asaris. That's about the only case where she's a ****. Those are some high standards.

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@ME0730: So it's ultimately speculation. that's alright with me