13 réponses à ce sujet

[RobotXYZ]

I now have arrow of slaying, but often I find she doesn't have the stamina to cast it.  This would be later in a battle.  If there is an emmisary or something right at the beginning I have had enough mana.  I haven't given her any willpower so far.  I've been giving cunning and dexterity.  I think dexterity is top priority right now so she can use a stronger bow.

I have cleared: mages tower, redcliffe but not ashes, brecalian forest, soldiers peak, and honnleath.  I am having my main character wear the armor from soldiers peak so she can't use and anyhow then I would still be in the same boat needing strength.

So would you put willpower for Lel? 

[Angrywolves]

You might have been able to do the trap glitch in lothering and gained more experience. Don't see willpower helping you very much.

[RobotXYZ]

@Angrywolves, I haven't been worrying about how high a level I am because I thought the game was level scaled so that if I am higher level the monsters are too.

[Blazomancer]

Get some if you are running out, but there's not really any need to overdo it. Alternatively, you can have Wynne (or whoever is your healer, if any) cast rejuvenate, mass rejuvenation, and spellbloom.

[Bhryaen]

There's no need to put any points in Willpower for an archer. Extra Willpower just increases the amount of stamina- something that happens with leveling up anyway-, but doesn't affect the recovery rate of used stamina. My archer at Level 23 now is pounding out Arrow of Slaying along with other activated talents like Scattershot, hindered only by "cooldown" recovery, and I haven't put one point in Willpower. It just takes raising levels and acquiring stamina-boosting items. There are specific big items that you'll become familiar with which add +1 or +2 to stamina recovery per second. Plus a bard (like Leliana) can add more stamina recovery to everyone in the party if she sustains her Song of Valor at all times. Actually if you want to raise her stamina-boosting ability with Song of Valor you have to add Cunning to her, not Willpower. And there's also what Blazomancer mentioned: the spell Rejuvenate (or Mass Rejuvenate) which causes the target to regain stamina (or mana) at a higher rate for a short period. Oh, and there's also something you can eat which boosts stamina a little- Deep Mushrooms. I never use ithem for that though. Fighters get talents that replenish stamina, mind you. Rogues need that nice armor- Felon's Coat- from the Denerim merchant Wade's Emporium, and the belt Andruil's Blessing (from the Circle Tower merchant) also has stamina recovery built into it.

I admit though that for my archer at the earlier levels- up to maybe 15- using Arrow of Slaying pretty much meant forgoing activated talents for a little while unless Morrigan went out of her way to put Rejuvenate on him...

Modifié par Bhryaen, 03 juillet 2013 - 09:25 .

[caradoc2000]

If you intend to use many sustainables on her, such as ranger pets, she might need more willpower.

[mousestalker]

Giving Wynne Mass Rejuvenation is probably the better buy. You're already looking at Dexterity and possibly Strength or Cunning for Leli, depending. Adding Willpower spreads her points out even more.

[Cozarkian]

Power-gaming says no, but remember, power-gaming is obsessed only with maximizing dps for an end-game character. It isn't concerned with things like challenge or how interactive you like the game to be.

If you have more fun by making the strongest end-game character possible, don't take any willpower, if you would have more fun using abilities and having slightly harder fights (because you do slightly less damage later), put some points in stamina.

It's even possible your character would be stronger at low levels by not following the optimal build. For example, a DW strength-based warrior would likely have higher dps from taking stamina to use more abilities up until they get the Death Blow talent, at which point they no longer need the extra stamina. Thus, powergaming says don't take any willpower, even though that actually gimps your character in earlier levels.

Another example is no-strength rogues. Powergaming suggests taking 11 str + 4 from the fonts for optimal gear. Well, that plan leaves you underpowered until you either go to Redcliffe or get some items with str bonuses, because 11 str can't even equip level 3 light armor.

[RobotXYZ]

Thanks. Great replies. I am going to Denerim and I'll see what wades has for sale. I didn't realize leveling up added stamina.

[PatT2]

2 things: Arrow of slaying is best used against a normal, not an emissary. It will outright kill a normal. It won't outright kill an emissary. So i have tactics set up for her to use it against a normal or high-normal. Otherwise, her just spamming regular shots with 3 or 4 enchanted arrows will kill an emissary faster as she doesn't need to aim.

All her specials take more time, and 3 super fast regular shots can somtimes kill the thing you were waiting for her to aim on.

Felon's coat: It's for sale after the first time you bring drake scales but before you take the 2nd set to them. The timing is important.....some may argue it's something else, but I saved it for late game this last time and did them in rapid succession...and he def. won't sell to you after you hand him the 2nd set of scales.

Endgame? In a singleplayer game with an ending? There be no endgame in an non-mmo. Just credits rolling on the screen.

[keeneaow]

What is the glitch in lothering for more experience ?
and IMO mana regeneration beats mana pool in most cases,
there is one belt in bodhans inventory with 0.75 mana reg

[Blazomancer]

PatT2 wrote...
...
Arrow of slaying is best used against a normal, not an emissary. It will outright kill a normal. It won't outright kill an emissary
...

I don't think it can be generalized in this fashion. From what I know and have experienced, it is totally possible to eliminate an elite level creature, like an Emissary with a single Arrow of Slaying. It depends on the level difference between the attacker and the target. Experiences with AoS differ from person to person because for some strange reason, the bonus damage is implemented as a bitwise XOR rather than the square of level difference.

Modifié par Blazomancer, 20 juillet 2013 - 07:45 .

[caradoc2000]

keeneaow wrote...

What is the glitch in lothering for more experience ?

You can repeat the trap quest for Allison, and get XP and money for each set of traps you bring to her.

[keeneaow]

That would work with the re-spec mod, since i want to keep those points for health & mana in awakening.
On the willpower: its a quick-fix to a temporary problem, since eventually with levels,
the stamina pool will be more than enuff, but the points are wasted,
but here again, a re-spec mod could re-distribute back those points.