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[Voxr]

It's like a Star Trek - GoT crossover. Not like Star Wars. Me no like it!

I don't know the one in the red suit looks cool though. Like a red bipedal sting ray.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

What do you mean? If I had seen that picture in isolation I would instantly recognise it as star wars.

 

No. It looks even more like Star Gate than Star Wars!

[The Devlish Redhead]

Star Wars is not like GOT at all. No boning.

[mybudgee]

anyone who doesn't see the connection between mos eisley and that picture posted above should get out of this thread. Now

[Dermain]

anyone who doesn't see the connection between mos eisley and that picture posted above should get out of this thread. Now

 

Fine...

 

I'm leaving, I'm leaving already...

[mybudgee]

wait don't go! I'm so lonely...

 

[TheChosenOne]

wait don't go! I'm so lonely...
 

What about me!?! I'm still here!

[Nerevar-as]

I think JJ/Kasdan are smart enough to know they cannot rely on Lucas' or KotOR's "mask-reveal" trope. The plot & character arcs need to be intriguing enough that we are riveted and compelled to watch.

The writing needs to be on a mature, adult level. Period

SW is all ages, not adult or mature. Closer to Avatar (cartoon) than BSG.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

anyone who doesn't see the connection between mos eisley and that picture posted above should get out of this thread. Now

 

It looks like Tatooine 100000 years later. Everything is devolved for worse and uglier.

[Voxr]

I'm really starting to wonder about the clamoring for a "mature, dark, adult" SW. I mean have you seen 4 or 6? Or is that why? Is it because you're nostalgia has worn off and you realize the reason SW was soooo great as a kid is because that's exactly who it was aimed for? Now that most of us are adults we couldn't possibly go back to the innocence of the originals right? Star Wars was never meant to be a mature, dark, or adult universe. I mean there are plenty of mature, adult and dark stories in the EU and even if you delve deeper into the meanings and motives of certain characters. But it never got any darker than the average fairy tale or Flash Gordon. Which is what Lucas intended SW to be. Another fun fantasy adventure, just in space.

That said I wouldn't mind getting a more mature, dark and gritty SW. But a numbered ( i.e. Episode: # - - ) Is probably the wrong place to look. We might be able to get it in an off-shoot movie. And I would certainly hope the rumored Boba Fett movie gets a more serious tone. At the end of the day if you want a M,D,A SW go watch Episode 3. Seriously, because that's about as dark as SW was ever intended to go.

If we could get a ESB tone IMO that would be best. ESB was light enough that I loved it just as much when I was 7 but still had a cooler darker vibe that I can enjoy it now in my early 20s.

But if people are looking for a GoT, HoC, hell even a LoTR level of maturity I wouldn't expect it in the numbered entries. We might get an Avengers level of light to mild PG-13. Anyway that's my two cents.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

I'm really starting to wonder about the clamoring for a "mature, dark, adult" SW. I mean have you seen 4 or 6? Or is that why? Is it because you're nostalgia has worn off and you realize the reason SW was soooo great as a kid is because that's exactly who it was aimed for? Now that most of us are adults we couldn't possibly go back to the innocence of the originals right? Star Wars was never meant to be a mature, dark, or adult universe. I mean there are plenty of mature, adult and dark stories in the EU and even if you delve deeper into the meanings and motives of certain characters. But it never got any darker than the average fairy tale or Flash Gordon. Which is what Lucas intended SW to be. Another fun fantasy adventure, just in space. 

 

Anakin killing youngster jedi -> Maturity

 

Or is maturity just showing sex on the screen?

 

Or we can go philosophical and call all these movies and series puberty-wise ones not really mature.

[Voxr]

Anakin killing youngster jedi -> Maturity

 

Or is maturity just showing sex on the screen?

 

Or we can go philosophical and call all these movies and series puberty-wise ones not really mature.

Sorta 

 

Don't get my hopes up inb4: I ship Han Solo and Arrua Sing

 

Which is basically what they are/were in all honesty.

[DeathScepter]

It looks like Tatooine 100000 years later. Everything is devolved for worse and uglier.

when is Tatioone not ugly or a **** hole that almost makes Omega from Mass Effect look like paradise(yes I am aware how much of a shithole that is Omega but at least it has a good rave club)

[Alan Rickman]

Sorta 

 

Don't get my hopes up inb4: I ship Han Solo and Arrua Sing

 

Which is basically what they are/were in all honesty.

 

pfff

 

Han/Chewie is the OTP to end all OTP's

[Vox Draco]

anyone who doesn't see the connection between mos eisley and that picture posted above should get out of this thread. Now

 

Indeed! Out now, or Han will shoot you first and ask questions later! As it has always been!

 

No. It looks even more like Star Gate than Star Wars!

It looks like Tatooine 100000 years later. Everything is devolved for worse and uglier.

 

Aha ... opinions, everyone has 'em, I guess. And I hate to be the one to tell you but: No, you're opinion is quite wrong, but don't worry, we are here to help you! Just let it happen! Look deep into my eyes

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Pfft. I prefer 1977 Star Wars aliens.

[TurianRebel212]

One thing bad, the only thing pretty much, That the Dark Knight did to superhero/blockbuster films was it ushered in this sort of "lets make everything really darker or more gritty" type of train of thought. 

 

I really, really, hope that blockbuster films really stop trying to be the Dark Knight. That was a once in every 20 years type of movie and performance by Ledger. But blockbuster movies since 2008 have all tried to be like Nolan's batman flicks. More "dark" and more "mature" and more "gritty" and "thematic". And it's really annoying. 

 

 

I hope JJ just makes a good, fun star wars movie with a compelling narrative and cool villain (what the prequels lacked). 

[SmilesJA]

Dark and gritty is boring anyway.

[mybudgee]

I just meant no "Jar-Jar" style humor, no condescending dialogue. That is all

[Han Shot First]

The prequels didn't suck because some of the subject matter was 'darker' than the original trilogy. They sucked because they were poorly written, suffered from bad casting decisions, had an overabundance of CGI, had cartoonish aliens that seemed as if they had been borrowed from a Disney film, and two of the leads had zero chemistry together.

[Alan Rickman]

One thing bad, the only thing pretty much, That the Dark Knight did to superhero/blockbuster films was it ushered in this sort of "lets make everything really darker or more gritty" type of train of thought. 

 

I really, really, hope that blockbuster films really stop trying to be the Dark Knight. That was a once in every 20 years type of movie and performance by Ledger. But blockbuster movies since 2008 have all tried to be like Nolan's batman flicks. More "dark" and more "mature" and more "gritty" and "thematic". And it's really annoying. 

 

 

I hope JJ just makes a good, fun star wars movie with a compelling narrative and cool villain (what the prequels lacked). 

 

Everything being really forced into "dark" and "gritty" territory started long before Dark Knight, and was in fact way worse. Need I remind you of early 2000's brooding heroes in cheesy as f*ck movies scored exclusively with nu-metal?

[mybudgee]

The prequels didn't suck because some of the subject matter was 'darker' than the original trilogy. They sucked because they were poorly written, suffered from bad casting decisions, had an overabundance of CGI, had cartoonish aliens that seemed as if they had been borrowed from a Disney film, and two of the leads had zero chemistry together.

Very true. The entire saga has an underlying theme of seduction by evil, corruption, genocide & war for its own sake. That's dark enough I guess

[Voxr]

The prequels didn't suck because some of the subject matter was 'darker' than the original trilogy. They sucked because they were poorly written, suffered from bad casting decisions, had an overabundance of CGI, had cartoonish aliens that seemed as if they had been borrowed from a Disney film, and two of the leads had zero chemistry together.

That's because George was surrounded by yes-men and no one ever questioned him.

[Jorji Costava]

There's almost nothing to be said about the prequels that hasn't already been said at this point. The only thing I can think to add is this: It was a horrible mistake to make the first movie about Anakin (or "Annie!", as they call him) Skywalker as a child. This decision guaranteed that you would have at least one whole movie out of three that had absolutely no character progression for Anakin; what are you going to do, pertray him as some Damien-from-The Omen child? That would undermine the whole idea of being seduced by the Dark side or whatever. It was purely a marketing decision: We need kids in the seats, so we're going to put one in the movie.

 

The result was that all the character progression had to be squeezed into the last two movies, or placed into that vortex between the films (a lot of the most important developments happen entirely offscreen; Anakin goes from being an acquaintance of Palpatine in Attack of the Clones to being his best buddy in Revenge of the Sith). This need to cram stuff in that should have been done earlier helps explain Anakin's abrupt transition from "Oh my God! What have I done?!" after killing Mace Windu to "Yes, Darth Sidious, I will kill younglings for you! Muahahaha!" in a matter of minutes.

[Vroom Vroom]

That's because George was surrounded by yes-men and no one ever questioned him.

^This. He had people that would tell him that things were a bad idea back during the OT. Luke was originally going to be a midget and I'm glad it didn't turn out that way.