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Still, they could have cut back on the CGI though, like that scene in Episode III where Count Dooku does a force jump, but ends up looking fake on screen.

 

Honestly the CGI isn't as excessive as critics say they are. I can't believe they said: "A desert, a real desert" Where else did they film tatooine in the prequels?!


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Honestly the CGI isn't as excessive as critics say they are. I can't believe they said: "A desert, a real desert" Where else did they film tatooine in the prequels?!

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Honestly the CGI isn't as excessive as critics say they are. I can't believe they said: "A desert, a real desert" Where else did they film tatooine in the prequels?!

It's really bad in how most backgrounds are almost pure greenscreen and treadmill. The absence of props also hurts. It's not so much the GCI but the fact that apart from McGregor no one is a good stage actor, so they just can't handle acting without props. 


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It's really bad in how most backgrounds are almost pure greenscreen and treadmill. The absence of props also hurts. It's not so much the GCI but the fact that apart from McGregor no one is a good stage actor, so they just can't handle acting without props. 

 

Most backgrounds?: http://boards.thefor...s-etc.50017310/


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For those that missed it (like me) XD 

 

Edit: J.J. Abrams stated there won't be another trailer until Fall. 

 

Edit 2: Major Spoiler:

Spoiler
 

 

Edit 3: Sort of Spoiler:

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It's really a mix of both practical and CGI though. They're just boasting about the practical side since the last three films went a bit overboard in the CGI department.

 

It's not just about the prequels (and watching that American Diner Alien you will understand why people want more practival effects, he looks as fake as possible..)

 

CGI is getting into every kind of movie, and filling them up to the rim. And I speak about CGI you can clearly identify as such. Also, CGI has such a habit of "getting old" within only a couple of years. And it usually looks a lot cheaper too ...

 

I recently re-watched an old 70s movie called "Waterloo", which has gigantic mass-scenes of soldiers fighting and marching. It still looks amaing, especially one huge cavalry-charge of the french army. And I had to think about Lord of the Rings 3 ... and how fake the Rohan-Charge on the Pelennor-Fields looks compared to this...

 

That'S why I am totally forgiving if they boast a bit too much about their practical effects. I'd rather see a handcrafted puppet actually on stage and actors ACTING with this puppet than a fully-animated CGI-Creature that was never on stage...and the actors were interacting only with a tennisball in front of a green screen. Those Prequel-Making-Ofs still look so depressing to me, with George sipping coffee and Ewan just looking confused on the green screen stage^^


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It's not just about the prequels (and watching that American Diner Alien you will understand why people want more practival effects, he looks as fake as possible..)

 

CGI is getting into every kind of movie, and filling them up to the rim. And I speak about CGI you can clearly identify as such. Also, CGI has such a habit of "getting old" within only a couple of years. And it usually looks a lot cheaper too ...

 

I recently re-watched an old 70s movie called "Waterloo", which has gigantic mass-scenes of soldiers fighting and marching. It still looks amaing, especially one huge cavalry-charge of the french army. And I had to think about Lord of the Rings 3 ... and how fake the Rohan-Charge on the Pelennor-Fields looks compared to this...

 

That'S why I am totally forgiving if they boast a bit too much about their practical effects. I'd rather see a handcrafted puppet actually on stage and actors ACTING with this puppet than a fully-animated CGI-Creature that was never on stage...and the actors were interacting only with a tennisball in front of a green screen. Those Prequel-Making-Ofs still look so depressing to me, with George sipping coffee and Ewan just looking confused on the green screen stage^^

 

 

Really? Ewan looks confused, while George looks nonchanlant? You know practical effects tend to look fake as well if done badly.


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Really? Ewan looks confused, while George looks nonchanlant? You know practical effects tend to look fake as well if done badly.

 

Are you seriously defending the CGI in the prequels?


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Are you seriously defending the CGI in the prequels?

 

Yeah, you got a problem with that?


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Are you seriously defending the CGI in the prequels?

I think the issue with the prequels is it didn't start us in the Clone Wars already because Revenge of the Sith is the best Prequel film there is. The PT should've been the rise of Darth Vader from the start. 



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I could go in depth about why the prequels were terrible, and why the effects were garbage, but I'll let someone else who is much better at that do it for me:

 



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I really am not happy we will not see another trailer until fall, we already gotta wait until Winter for Star Wars Battlefront lol



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I could go in depth about why the prequels were terrible, and why the effects were garbage, but I'll let someone else who is much better at that do it for me:

 

your youtube video is moot point because Revenge of the Sith was the best of the prequel films. 



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That episode 3 one is arguably the best at explaining the issue, but I'll leave the other two here as well:

 

 



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your youtube video is moot point because Revenge of the Sith was the best of the prequel films. 

 

Saying it's the best prequel isnt saying much.

 

It's still filled with all the same problems.


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Saying it's the best prequel isnt saying much.

 

It's still filled with all the same problems.

 

Well its also why I said PT should've started us in the Clone Wars already happening. Imagine how boring the OT would've been if Empire Strikes Back was about how the Rebellion started


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Well its also why I said PT should've started us in the Clone Wars already happening. Imagine how boring the OT would've been if Empire Strikes Back was about how the Rebellion started

 

I agree with that as well. Qui Gonn shouldnt have been in the movies. Anakin and Obi Won should have been the main characters from the start, and make Anaking actually likeable. It's hard to relate to the protagonist when they're so unlikeable. 

 

I also think that the clone troopers shouldnt have actually been clone troopers. They should have been the republic army, and worn the clone style armour, but made of normal people. Since it's called the clone wars, the enemies could have been these like clone monsters or something. This would make the good side actually somewhat interesting, and the storm troopers in the OT were never clones either. You should really watch that video mate


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I agree with that as well. Qui Gonn shouldnt have been in the movies. Anakin and Obi Won should have been the main characters from the start, and make Anaking actually likeable. It's hard to relate to the protagonist when they're so unlikeable. 

 

I also think that the clone troopers shouldnt have actually been clone troopers. They should have been the republic army, and worn the clone style armour, but made of normal people. Since it's called the clone wars, the enemies could have been these like clone monsters or something. This would make the good side actually somewhat interesting, and the storm troopers in the OT were never clones either. You should really watch that video mate

 

I need the condense version, no way I am sitting for 2 hours watching one youtube video lol. But I actually realized the issue with PT when Revenge of the Sith released or maybe in one of my many rewatches of the Saga. I know I made sure to buy the BluRay Saga release of the movies lol



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I need the condense version, no way I am sitting for 2 hours watching one youtube video lol. But I actually realized the issue with PT when Revenge of the Sith released or maybe in one of my many rewatches of the Saga. I know I made sure to buy the BluRay Saga release of the movies lol

 

There's a lot he talks about, but mainly its about the poorly written characters and how they are pretty incompetent, plotholes, how you can tell the overuse of CG and how it affects the performances, the over reliance on the original trilogy and why Vader being the main focus of the movie didnt work, backtracking on issues in previous movies, and alot more. I definitely recommend watching the video, even if not in one sitting. It's a pretty good analysis.



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But to Episode 7 I do feel there is promise because JJ Abrams did a good job with Star Trek and you gotta remember this guy is a fan of both series. So I think he will not make the mistakes the fans have pointed out since he too is a fan of Star Wars. Also the problem with or society today is we rely on reviews too much and we forget they are written by people with an opinion and some people can hold grudges due to bad sequels or in this case prequels. Only hold a review on things so high because the PT probably will make the movie not due as well as they hoped. Look at Terminator Genisys, its actually is a good film and its being held back because of the previous 2 films. 

 

I don't expect MEA to do well either because of the ME3 endings but that is a topic for another day or another topic lol. 



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There's a lot he talks about, but mainly its about the poorly written characters and how they are pretty incompetent, plotholes, how you can tell the overuse of CG and how it affects the performances, the over reliance on the original trilogy and why Vader being the main focus of the movie didnt work, backtracking on issues in previous movies, and alot more. I definitely recommend watching the video, even if not in one sitting. It's a pretty good analysis.

 

Interesting enough I found Anakin the most relatable character in the series. And spamming those videos isn't going to do anything to sway me.



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Interesting enough I found Anakin the most relatable character in the series. And spamming those videos isn't going to do anything to sway me.

 

I don't think they are spammed, one for each PT film lol. 



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Interesting enough I found Anakin the most relatable character in the series. And spamming those videos isn't going to do anything to sway me.

 

I posted one review for each movie, how is that spam?



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I posted one review for each movie, how is that spam?

 

Sorry for calling it spam, regardless the reviews aren't going to convince me.