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[DeathScepter]

nice darth Bane fan trailer

[MegaIllusiveMan]

 

[MegaIllusiveMan]

The sith triumvirate from TSL should be made canon as well, their among the best SW villains especially Kreia.

 

Not just the best SW villain, but one of the best written character ever made. Kreia isn't dark. Kreia isn't light. Kreia isn't neutral. Kreia isn't Sith. Kreia isn't Jedi. Kreia is jnot that Echo the Exile is, the Engineer Bao-Dur is, the Seer Visas is, the "Fool" Atton is... She is just...

 

...Kreia

 

To me, Kotor 1 and 2 should be remastered and made into canon. and Yes I would love to see a good Kotor 3.

 

+1 for that.

[DeathScepter]

Not just the best SW villain, but one of the best written character ever made. Kreia isn't dark. Kreia isn't light. Kreia isn't neutral. Kreia isn't Sith. Kreia isn't Jedi. Kreia is jnot that Echo the Exile is, the Engineer Bao-Dur is, the Seer Visas is, the "Fool" Atton is... She is just...

 

...Kreia

 

 

+1 for that.

 

 

True about the Kreia. Also Kotor 1 is the reason I became a bioware fanboy and enjoy Kotor 2 a great deal. 

[Rawgrim]

Wasn't Kyle Katarn the one that brought down the whole Dark Troopers program in the game Dark Forces?

 

Was that set in the EU as well?

 

Now that would have made good movie fodder. Dark Troopers..

 

What were they supposed to be part man / machine?

 

Haven't played that game in like forever and ever..

 

He also stole the death-star plans and gave them to the rebels.

[The Devlish Redhead]

He also stole the death-star plans and gave them to the rebels.

He's a real bad ass to have done all that.

 

What exactly were the Dark Troopers supposed to be and are they canon?

[Voxr]

DRH anything that isn't The Movies or TCW and Rebels is EU and effectively non Canon save for the few runs of comics going out and the like 3 books that have been released since the Mouse bought LF.

Darktroopers are not canon. They were however an elite battle droid/exoskeleton suit modeled after stormtrooper armor. And we're powerful units and the phase 3 varieties were supposed to be the new armor for the next generation of stormtroopers.

http://starwars.wiki...ki/Dark_trooper

[Rawgrim]

DRH anything that isn't The Movies or TCW and Rebels is EU and effectively non Canon save for the few runs of comics going out and the like 3 books that have been released since the Mouse bought LF.

Darktroopers are not canon. They were however an elite battle droid/exoskeleton suit modeled after stormtrooper armor. And we're powerful units and the phase 3 varieties were supposed to be the new armor for the next generation of stormtroopers.

http://starwars.wiki...ki/Dark_trooper

 

Disney should never had made the cartoons canon, really. It messes up the continuity from the get go. Especially since the cartoons contradict the movies.

[Paragon Gabriel]

Disney should never had made the cartoons canon, really. It messes up the continuity from the get go. Especially since the cartoons contradict the movies.

Willing to elaborate further on how it contradicts the movies?

Not judging, just simply curios since I don't follow SW that much

[Voxr]

Willing to elaborate further on how it contradicts the movies?

Not judging, just simply curios since I don't follow SW that much

Well Darth Maul some how miraculously survived Naboo.

 

Anakin has a padawan, yet even after episode 2 he's still an apprentice himself. And only in episode 3 does he make it to Jedi Knight, but not Master. Meaning he's a full fledged Jedi, but cannot take on a padawan learner. Honestly that's one of the biggest things for me. I mean I like Ahsoka but still, it really took me a while to get used to that. 

 

And there's other things but I can't think of them and I'm sure someone else can fill in the gaps.

 

But TCW gave us Cad Bane. Cad is love, Cad is life.

[The Devlish Redhead]

DRH anything that isn't The Movies or TCW and Rebels is EU and effectively non Canon save for the few runs of comics going out and the like 3 books that have been released since the Mouse bought LF.

Darktroopers are not canon. They were however an elite battle droid/exoskeleton suit modeled after stormtrooper armor. And we're powerful units and the phase 3 varieties were supposed to be the new armor for the next generation of stormtroopers.

http://starwars.wiki...ki/Dark_trooper

 

 

Thanks for the link..

[Rawgrim]

Well Darth Maul some how miraculously survived Naboo.

 

Anakin has a padawan, yet even after episode 2 he's still an apprentice himself. And only in episode 3 does he make it to Jedi Knight, but not Master. Meaning he's a full fledged Jedi, but cannot take on a padawan learner. Honestly that's one of the biggest things for me. I mean I like Ahsoka but still, it really took me a while to get used to that. 

 

And there's other things but I can't think of them and I'm sure someone else can fill in the gaps.

 

But TCW gave us Cad Bane. Cad is love, Cad is life.

 

The cave on Dagobah is suddenly a temple. With tiles and whatever else.

 

Vader's Tie Fighter is in use during Rebels. Even though it was a brand new prototype in ep 4.

 

Disabling the shield in the hangar bay of a star destroyer, while in space, doesn't make the vacuum suck everything out.

 

Using an EMP grenade disables a whole star destroyer, but not the ships in the hangar bay.

 

Maul survived being chopped in half, falling down 700 meters, and then getting off the planet with no medical aid.

 

Shapeshifters can also shapeshift their clothes for no reason.

 

B-Wings are suddenly around before Episode 6.

 

The Rebels have a ton of bases, even though in ep 4, it is clearly stated they have 1 base (no B-wings there either).

 

 

In short: Its a huge mess.

[Iakus]

 

Anakin has a padawan, yet even after episode 2 he's still an apprentice himself. And only in episode 3 does he make it to Jedi Knight, but not Master. Meaning he's a full fledged Jedi, but cannot take on a padawan learner. Honestly that's one of the biggest things for me. I mean I like Ahsoka but still, it really took me a while to get used to that. 

 

Didn't Ob-Wan take on Anakin as a padawan right after becoming a Jedi Knight himself?

[DeathScepter]

Didn't Ob-Wan take on Anakin as a padawan right after becoming a Jedi Knight himself?

 

 

yes

[Heimdall]

I'm pretty sure Anakin was a knight at the start of Episode 3, actually.

 

He was made a council member, but not a master, that's what that was about.

[In Exile]

The cave on Dagobah is suddenly a temple. With tiles and whatever else.

 

Vader's Tie Fighter is in use during Rebels. Even though it was a brand new prototype in ep 4.

 

Disabling the shield in the hangar bay of a star destroyer, while in space, doesn't make the vacuum suck everything out.

 

Using an EMP grenade disables a whole star destroyer, but not the ships in the hangar bay.

 

Maul survived being chopped in half, falling down 700 meters, and then getting off the planet with no medical aid.

 

Shapeshifters can also shapeshift their clothes for no reason.

 

B-Wings are suddenly around before Episode 6.

 

The Rebels have a ton of bases, even though in ep 4, it is clearly stated they have 1 base (no B-wings there either).

 

 

In short: Its a huge mess.

 

Sounds like the spiritual successor to the EU to me.  

[Rawgrim]

Sounds like the spiritual successor to the EU to me.

 

The EU got messy after awhile, yes. But it was never on the same canon as the movies. This new canon got messed up right away, and it is on the same canon as the movies.

[SmilesJA]

The EU got messy after awhile, yes. But it was never on the same canon as the movies. This new canon got messed up right away, and it is on the same canon as the movies.

 

Yup, Lightsaber colors getting changed based on people's feelings?

[Iakus]

Yup, Lightsaber colors getting changed based on people's feelings?

Since when have lightsabers been mood rings?  

[Vox Draco]

The cave on Dagobah is suddenly a temple. With tiles and whatever else.

 

How much of that cave did we actually ever saw anyway? And without seeing it through Luke's "distorted drunkard's view"? Old Yoda could have occupied an entire temple-complex without us ever knowing from just watching the movie. I just blame the "Strikes back" Camera-team for not showing us that...

 

Vader's Tie Fighter is in use during Rebels. Even though it was a brand new prototype in ep 4.

 

Not sure how far before "Hope" the series takes place, but I also don't know when in the movie it was established that it was a prototype used for the very first time above Yavin?

 

Disabling the shield in the hangar bay of a star destroyer, while in space, doesn't make the vacuum suck everything out.

 

Yeah, no arguing here...

 

Using an EMP grenade disables a whole star destroyer, but not the ships in the hangar bay.

 

Again...

 

Maul survived being chopped in half, falling down 700 meters, and then getting off the planet with no medical aid.

 

Well, all I can say is: The fault lies not in the series here, but in George Lucas killing off the only potentially interesting villain the prequels had to offer...they just rectified a huge mistake here if you ask me (though why should anyone ever ask me anyway...)

 

Shapeshifters can also shapeshift their clothes for no reason.

 

Ahem, hey...Odo can do it too! Or the Hulk with his incredible shape-shifting trousers! We speak about a galaxy where nobody questions people shooting lightings from their fingertips, and fireballs from their butts...! Oh wait...not the latter...

 

B-Wings are suddenly around before Episode 6.

 

See Vader's MKII ... I still wish they'd add some Tie-Defenders in the new movies...how awesome that would be...

 

The Rebels have a ton of bases, even though in ep 4, it is clearly stated they have 1 base (no B-wings there either).

 

That crawltext only speaks of "a hidden rebel base" ... if that was supposed to mean that the Rebel Alliance (!) only had one tiny little base with thirty fighters on it? Well, I'd call that Death Star some overkill, and serious lack of guerilla-warfare-knowledge on the rebel's side....also known as stupidity. Even Al Quaida and Co don't concentrate all their force in just one spot...I still believe there were also bases of the "Allied Rebels", the "Rebellious Alliance of the Galaxy" and the "People's Front of Alderaan..." somwhere in the galaxy with it's...how many planets again?

 

In short: Its a huge mess.

 

More than the Prequels? Doubt it....

 

Oh damn myself and my devil's advocate-syndrom, but I am in the mood to argue about that without ever having seen a damn cartoon-episode so far...

[Voxr]

Didn't Ob-Wan take on Anakin as a padawan right after becoming a Jedi Knight himself?

Only at the request of Qui-Gon because he told Obi-Wan to train him and told the council that he was the chosen one (to their chagrin).

[Iakus]

Only at the request of Qui-Gon because he told Obi-Wan to train him and told the council that he was the chosen one (to their chagrin).

Well, yes, but the point is he did take on an apprentice as a newly-minted Knight and the Council did allow it (even if they weren't exactly ecstatic about it)

[DarthSliver]

Talk about contradicting but George Lucas and company is what approved of the old EU then George Lucas would contradict stuff he approved just to put something in the films. Other series that approve of book material would work around that instead of just saying "screw it"

 

The Clone Wars were manned under Lucasfilms before Disney take over, it was the Disney take over why we don't have it around anymore. Everything in The Clone Wars Animated series was approved and done by George Lucas. Only thing Disney did with The Clone Wars series was cancel it so they wouldn't be putting Star Wars on a competitors channel.

 

As much as I liked the EU it was easier to just start it over than to pick and choose what fit and didn't fit anymore because the EU was a heap of mess after the Prequel Trilogy. With Episode 7 coming out EU based after Episode 6 needed to be erased and only used as source material to create something for the new Episodes of Star Wars.

 

I find that Disney is doing their best to fix Star Wars from the mess that Lucas allowed it to become. 

[Rawgrim]

I dunno. Making a cartoon made for 6 year olds, and placing it in the "Dark Times" period, was a bad choice. Kenobi describes the period as very dark period. The cartoon show shows us a goofy slapstick period, where rebels help farmers that has their fruit stolen by the evil empire. And that is canon now. What happens in it is just as "true" as everything in the movies.

[Malanek]

I dunno. Making a cartoon made for 6 year olds, and placing it in the "Dark Times" period, was a bad choice. Kenobi describes the period as very dark period. The cartoon show shows us a goofy slapstick period, where rebels help farmers that has their fruit stolen by the evil empire. And that is canon now. What happens in it is just as "true" as everything in the movies.

The darkest point was revenge of the sith and everything that built up to that point. The point of Rebels is the birth of the rebellion. While the greater period is still overwhelmingly dark, they are focusing on the brightest bit. It's OK for me, nothing great but they want to do a cartoon for kids and the period is fine. IMO the clone wars was pointless and much darker because you know that they are unwittingly contributing to their own demise.