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#4201
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Oh damn myself and my devil's advocate-syndrom, but I am in the mood to argue about that without ever having seen a damn cartoon-episode so far...

 

Yes they only had 1 base in ep IV. It is even in the text crawl at the beginning. "Rebels are striking from their hidden BASE".

 

Tarkin says he will end the rebels with ONE swift stroke. The interrogate Leia about THE hidden rebel base.

 

 

They only had one base and that was where all the leaders were. Hence why it is a win or die battle when the Deathstar arrives. It wouldn't really had any impact if the Death Star was just going to destroy Rebel base 053 out of 114 bases. But given how Rebels has messed things up, this might very well be the case now.


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Why didn't Obi Wan mercy kill Anakin?

I mean, the dude was screaming as he was burning alive. Even if Obi Wan was certain Anakin would die, why wouldn't he at least show some mercy and put him out of his misery?

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Well we have Rogue One to make up for the light heartedness that Rebels presented.



#4204
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I think Rogue One will take place between episode 6 and 7?



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Why didn't Obi Wan mercy kill Anakin?

I mean, the dude was screaming as he was burning alive. Even if Obi Wan was certain Anakin would die, why wouldn't he at least show some mercy and put him out of his misery?

My assumptions are he couldn't bring himself to do it. That and if  he would have gone to stab him ( which would have been the quickest way most likely) he runs the risk of either slipping into the lava or Anakin trying something, possibly he just pulling him down into the lava.


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#4206
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My assumptions are he couldn't bring himself to do it. That and if  he would have gone to stab him ( which would have been the quickest way most likely) he runs the risk of either slipping into the lava or Anakin trying something, possibly he just pulling him down into the lava.

 

Probably this. Or he figured Anakin would die rather soon anyway. Lungs burning and all that.

 

He could have force-pushed him into the lava, though.



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Probably this. Or he figured Anakin would die rather soon anyway. Lungs burning and all that.

 

He could have force-pushed him into the lava, though.

Both of those options are the opposite of a mercy kill though.....



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I think Rogue One will take place between episode 6 and 7?


Nah, it's about how the rebels got the Death Star plans. The unfinished Death Star can be briefly seen in the very short teaser that was released.

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Yeah, true.



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Nah, it's about how the rebels got the Death Star plans. The unfinished Death Star can be briefly seen in the very short teaser that was released.

 

Ahh cool. Between ep 5 and 6 then. I don't remember much from the teaser. Been awhile since I saw it.



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Rogue One is between 3 and 4...



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Rogue One is between 3 and 4...

 

Thought the other poster meant the half-finished death star from ep 6. The rebels had plans for that one too.



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Thought the other poster meant the half-finished death star from ep 6. The rebels had plans for that one too.


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Thought the other poster meant the half-finished death star from ep 6. The rebels had plans for that one too.

Nobody wants to watch a bunch of Bothans die...


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Yes they only had 1 base in ep IV. It is even in the text crawl at the beginning. "Rebels are striking from their hidden BASE".
 
Tarkin says he will end the rebels with ONE swift stroke. The interrogate Leia about THE hidden rebel base.
 
 
They only had one base and that was where all the leaders were. Hence why it is a win or die battle when the Deathstar arrives. It wouldn't really had any impact if the Death Star was just going to destroy Rebel base 053 out of 114 bases. But given how Rebels has messed things up, this might very well be the case now.


Episode Four was a mess from the beginning. The plot wasn't nailed down at all. Darth Vader is not Anakin, Luke and Leia are not siblings, and the official novelization cast the Emperor as a weak man controlled by his advisors. Nothing like what the series ended up being.

If you think an interstellar resistance movement that only has one base and a few dozen star fighters poses any threat to an empire that spans the Galaxy and has a military that includes tons of Star Destroyers, I don't know what to say. Why even bother deploying the Death Star when you could just jump a few Star Destroyers into the system and have them bombard the planet? There are certainly less design flaws that way.

The base is important because, as you say, the leadership is there. If you take out a cellular movement's central leadership, they would be terribly crippled. Possibly for years. Plenty of time for the Empire to focus on crushing individual cells before the organization can put itself back together. And besides, as per the Tarkin Doctrine, the Death Star being operational means it can simply destroy any planet even suspected of harboring resistance to the Empire. That's why the Battle of Yavin is important.

So in this instance, the new canon (and the old EU for that matter) is an improvement.
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#4216
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I am never going to forgive Disney for destroying the expanded universe.

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I am never going to forgive Disney for destroying the expanded universe.


I'll never forgive them fo changing the name of the Sith home world >:(

If they **** up Tython, there'll be hell to pay

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Morriban.....



#4219
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Morriban.....


NO! What's the point of changing one ****** letter!!

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Morriban.....

 

 

you must blame George Lucas



#4221
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Morriban.....

 

No, Morriband.



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NO! What's the point of changing one ****** letter!!

I can feel your anger....It gives you focus, makes you stronger.

 

Strike down George Lucas and together we can have peace..... dew it!


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#4223
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I can feel your anger....It gives you focus, makes you stronger.
 
Strike down George Lucas and together we can have peace..... dew it!
https://www.youtube....h?v=FQRW0RM4V0k


Lol but I thought Lucus was down with the old name givin that he didn't actually name it and then the EU came along and since then everyone called it that and it was all right. But then Disney came along and they wanting to **** everything that is the EU, they "changed" the name
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Not sure if it was posted already and I'm not really looking forward to checking 100+ pages in this thread (and we all know how good the forum search is), so I'll just dump this here:

 


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#4225
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No, Morriband.

Dermain pls