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So was thinking since Disney made All the Films canon with Clone Wars series and Rebels series, does that mean that some of the history of Star Wars before that is canon too?  I only say that because the Sith were hiding on purpose and made the Jedi believe they were all gone like 1000 to 2000 years of no Sith activity. So doesn't that in a sense actually make the Bioware games canon considering the games take place before Bane made the Rule of Two and this conflict is why Bane made the Sith a two person order lol. 


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Back on to the subject of the Bluray Star Wars Steelbooks. You can buy them all individually for $16 a each on this site:

 

http://www.amazon.co...177402741770316


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So was thinking since Disney made All the Films canon with Clone Wars series and Rebels series, does that mean that some of the history of Star Wars before that is canon too?  I only say that because the Sith were hiding on purpose and made the Jedi believe they were all gone like 1000 to 2000 years of no Sith activity. So doesn't that in a sense actually make the Bioware games canon considering the games take place before Bane made the Rule of Two and this conflict is why Bane made the Sith a two person order lol. 

 

Yah, it does...

 

But it's been said already that they aren't cannon anymore. But of course, they could make (IMO, they will) new comics about Before the Prequel's Film. They're just writing those because we're on our way to Episode VII, so we need to have an Expanded Universe for the 4-6 Episodes.

So, when the movie is released, I don't have doubts that some things from before the Prequels Movies will show up.

 

 And oh, since Darth Bane is also cannon, because he appeared in SW: The Clone Wars, it could have a higher chance of happening.


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Yah, it does...

 

But it's been said already that they aren't cannon anymore. But of course, they could make (IMO, they will) new comics about Before the Prequel's Film. They're just writing those because we're on our way to Episode VII, so we need to have an Expanded Universe for the 4-6 Episodes.

So, when the movie is released, I don't have doubts that some things from before the Prequels Movies will show up.

 

 And oh, since Darth Bane is also cannon, because he appeared in SW: The Clone Wars, it could have a higher chance of happening.

 

They could improve the History because there is that whole gap with no Sith activity from the start of Rule of Two order to Episode 1. They should bring Darth Plaguies to life because his powers always shown a hint that maybe he used the force to impregnate Anakin's mother, her lines for how she got pregnant just have the vibe that Plagueis did it. 

 

Of course I would like them to canonize Darth Revan with a full remake of KOTOR lol


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They could improve the History because there is that whole gap with no Sith activity from the start of Rule of Two order to Episode 1. They should bring Darth Plaguies to life because his powers always shown a hint that maybe he used the force to impregnate Anakin's mother, her lines for how she got pregnant just have the vibe that Plagueis did it. 

 

Of course I would like them to canonize Darth Revan with a full remake of KOTOR lol

 

Ohh Revan... He was almost cannon.

 There even is a concept art for him for TCW.



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I'm a simple guy. I see a grand army, I press like.

 

Anyway, I'm all for large scale conflicts, though I wouldn't mind if we see something more 'minor' for Ep VI, e.g. witnessing through different means how the conflicts erupts in the movie--be it in the form of aggression, coercion, deception, and so forth--ultimately leading up to a bigger one in the next movie and concluding in the 'last' one. Depends of course what the trilogy wants to do and what its focus will be, but considering on what the movie seems to be building up to, this in particular is something I'd like to see.

 

Well, the reason why the engagements, both on the ground and in space, are way more interesting in the OT than the PT isn't scale. The PT has the scale, we see this huge groundbattle in EP2 and space battle in Ep 3 and ... I simply do not care!

 

The thing is: On Hoth we have the rebels, ordinary people we already know and relate to due to New Hope. We know what they are fighting for and who their enemy is and wants and is capable of (Alderaan...). we see the Rebels entrench themselves (nice throwback to WW1 and WW2-feelings), and then...the AT-ATs enter the screen and simply blast away. There are only half a dozen of these war-machines, but the rebels die like flies in the trenches, pilots that at least have names are flying with Luke a hopeless assault and despite some minor victory Veers comes through and its only about evacuate until all is too late. It has tension, we KNOW what's going on, who is who and to whom we can relate to and feel for...

 

Ep 2? Not so much. There is mcuh more going on on the screen, sure. But ´not even teh nameless Jedi dying in the Arena before etc made me care. It's just a mess of blaster-shots and rockets and 'splosions. The only entertaining thing is: Yoda the wise just plunged the entire galaxy into a devastating war just to resuce two Jedi and a Senator. Guess negotiations were already off the table then?

 

Same with New Hope's small space-battle and Endor: Both stomp the floor with the Battle of Coruscant. Wedge, Biggs, Porkins, Lando, those are real human people fighting there, not just clones with silly names we are supposed to care for...reasons. 

 

And I truly hope JJ Abrams understood that just throwing stuff at the audience because "we can" isn't building tension, isn't making people care. Things have to be established, the good guys and their motives, the badguys and so on. Only then we get battle-scenes that makes you "Whoa", and you take clips from it and add epic music to them to make tributes, and pilots becoming glorified like Wedge and even poor Porkins! The PT has NONE of these average joes at ALL.

 

Weid Al Yankovic described my feelings best in one line: "And in the end some Gunguns died, Some ships blew up and some pilots fried, A lot of folks were croakin, The battle droids were broken"

 

Bigger isn't always better (that's what Han said!)

 

 

 

Vox Draco's Star-Wars-quote of the day:

 

"I spake" - "The ability to speak does not make you intelligent. Now get outta here!"


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Yeah, hence why I stated that I wanted something minor. 

 

Grand spectacles can be engaging if done right, but that goes without saying, hence why i stated that there should be genuine build up for one.



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Well, the reason why the engagements, both on the ground and in space, are way more interesting in the OT than the PT isn't scale. The PT has the scale, we see this huge groundbattle in EP2 and space battle in Ep 3 and ... I simply do not care!

 

The thing is: On Hoth we have the rebels, ordinary people we already know and relate to due to New Hope. We know what they are fighting for and who their enemy is and wants and is capable of (Alderaan...). we see the Rebels entrench themselves (nice throwback to WW1 and WW2-feelings), and then...the AT-ATs enter the screen and simply blast away. There are only half a dozen of these war-machines, but the rebels die like flies in the trenches, pilots that at least have names are flying with Luke a hopeless assault and despite some minor victory Veers comes through and its only about evacuate until all is too late. It has tension, we KNOW what's going on, who is who and to whom we can relate to and feel for...

 

Ep 2? Not so much. There is mcuh more going on on the screen, sure. But ´not even teh nameless Jedi dying in the Arena before etc made me care. It's just a mess of blaster-shots and rockets and 'splosions. The only entertaining thing is: Yoda the wise just plunged the entire galaxy into a devastating war just to resuce two Jedi and a Senator. Guess negotiations were already off the table then?

 

Same with New Hope's small space-battle and Endor: Both stomp the floor with the Battle of Coruscant. Wedge, Biggs, Porkins, Lando, those are real human people fighting there, not just clones with silly names we are supposed to care for...reasons. 

 

And I truly hope JJ Abrams understood that just throwing stuff at the audience because "we can" isn't building tension, isn't making people care. Things have to be established, the good guys and their motives, the badguys and so on. Only then we get battle-scenes that makes you "Whoa", and you take clips from it and add epic music to them to make tributes, and pilots becoming glorified like Wedge and even poor Porkins! The PT has NONE of these average joes at ALL.

 

Weid Al Yankovic described my feelings best in one line: "And in the end some Gunguns died, Some ships blew up and some pilots fried, A lot of folks were croakin, The battle droids were broken"

 

Bigger isn't always better (that's what Han said!)

 

 

 

Vox Draco's Star-Wars-quote of the day:

 

"I spake" - "The ability to speak does not make you intelligent. Now get outta here!"

 

I think the problem seems to be with you than with the director.



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They could improve the History because there is that whole gap with no Sith activity from the start of Rule of Two order to Episode 1. They should bring Darth Plaguies to life because his powers always shown a hint that maybe he used the force to impregnate Anakin's mother, her lines for how she got pregnant just have the vibe that Plagueis did it. 

 

Of course I would like them to canonize Darth Revan with a full remake of KOTOR lol

 

 

a Full Remake will be nice. To me, a healthy balance of old and new content for both Kotor 1 and 2 would be nice that flows into Kotor 3 in a solid Trilogy. 



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This article has a lot of new details about 7, like Kylo Ren is obsessed with Darth Vader,

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http://io9.com/13-th...e-aw-1723645676

 

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I don't like this:

 

"As for what might happen in Episode IX, Kennedy said they have general beats of where this trilogy will go, but that the details are still being worked out. “We know where we’re going, but only in the broadest sense,” she said. “When Rian came in and started writing his script, he started from scratch, other than knowing what we had done in Episode VII and projecting out where it was going. He then sat down and put pen to paper, and it’s 100% him.”

 

Basically, they are making it up as they go. :|


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^^ Okay, I could swear

 

Spoiler

I have a few thoughts

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Just some of my thoughts.


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1382559041094674761.jpg

 

This article has a lot of new details about 7, like Kylo Ren is obsessed with Darth Vader,

Spoiler

 

http://io9.com/13-th...e-aw-1723645676

 

1382559041346522953.jpg

 

I don't like this:

 

"As for what might happen in Episode IX, Kennedy said they have general beats of where this trilogy will go, but that the details are still being worked out. “We know where we’re going, but only in the broadest sense,” she said. “When Rian came in and started writing his script, he started from scratch, other than knowing what we had done in Episode VII and projecting out where it was going. He then sat down and put pen to paper, and it’s 100% him.”

 

Basically, they are making it up as they go. :|

The article has been updated with 4 more things. 

 

One such thing is that there is a reason that we don't know

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Here's some new Star Wars 7 images! 

 

It looks like the C-3PO toy with the red arm wasn't a defect!

 

Star-Wars-The-Force-Awakens-R2D2-and-C3P

 

Hux

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Keeping warm in the snow

Star-Wars-The-Force-Awakens-Kylo-Ren.jpg

 

You should be able to figure this out if you've seen the trailers, but I'll tag it just in case.

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Rough Landing

Star-Wars-The-Force-Awakens-Finn.jpg

 

Poe

 

Star-Wars-The-Force-Awakens-Poe-Dameron.


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You know what Star Wars really needs? More aliens. And I don't mean throwing a bunch of weird looking guys in the background and expect everyone to roll with that. Hell, we should have a movie where the main character ISN'T human. Or at least for more main characters that are aliens and have meaningful roles
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You know what Star Wars really needs? More aliens. And I don't mean throwing a bunch of weird looking guys in the background and expect everyone to roll with that. Hell, we should have a movie where the main character ISN'T human. Or at least for more main characters that are aliens and have meaningful roles

Yes! I was disappointed when they showed that the new main characters were all human again, I was hoping for Twi'leks, Bothans, Chiss, etc,. I think Hollywood is too afraid of going that route because they feel like they may (no pun intended) alienate the audience. I'm not asking for interspecies relationships (though that would be neat), just for speaking aliens in major roles. 


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Yes! I was disappointed when they showed that the new main characters were all human again, I was hoping for Twi'leks, Bothans, Chiss, etc,. I think Hollywood is too afraid of going that route because they feel like they may (no pun intended) alienate the audience. I'm not asking for interspecies relationships (though that would be neat), just for speaking aliens in major roles.


Hollywood is so racist it's racist against races that doesn't even exist
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You should be able to figure this out if you've seen the trailers, but I'll tag it just in case.

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Well, it looks like the stormtroopers are going to continue their history of not being able to hit anything... :whistle:


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Well, it looks like the stormtroopers are going to continue their history of not being able to hit anything... :whistle:


Change is good but traditions are important

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You should be able to figure this out if you've seen the trailers, but I'll tag it just in case.

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What, that John Boyega is out of breath.....yet again?  :P


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I still hate the crossguard.


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Well, it looks like the stormtroopers are going to continue their history of not being able to hit anything... :whistle:

 

Maybe they're not aiming for them.  :ph34r:


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I still hate the crossguard.

 

I still dislike the name Snoke.


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I still dislike the name Snoke.

 

Too close to snuke.


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