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[SmilesJA]

Cast of Rogue One announced: 

 

[Vox Draco]

And still not a single alien-character...? Or do asians count as those now in Hollywood?

 

*sigh* If I have one griße with Star Wars: it seems aliens are only there as comic relief or adding background-flavour...

[SmilesJA]

And still not a single alien-character...? Or do asians count as those now in Hollywood?

 

*sigh* If I have one griße with Star Wars: it seems aliens are only there as comic relief or adding background-flavour...

 

Yeah I was disappointed that there were no aliens.

[Commander Rpg]

*sigh* If I have one griße with Star Wars: it seems aliens are only there as comic relief or adding background-flavour...

Also droids. Even in videogames.

[In Exile]

Could be Obi-Wan's blade too

Didn't that get blown up with the Death Star?

[mybudgee]

99% sure that's Luke's weapon. Not many sabers have an emitter like that

[Chewin]

Heh that's a strange way to interpret my post but ok..

 

You really need to watch the OT again if you think those "battles" would hold up today in a movie labelled as an epic space fantasy.  

 

Battle of Yavin 4:  On screen it seemed like 6 rebels taking on an galactic super weapon manned by 10 people.  Great scene for it's time but ridiculous now. 

 

Battle of Hoth:  They had ALL of space to escape but they chose to run the blockade of 1 star destroyer....oh the rebels were surprised by 4 very large and slow moving mechanical death traps approaching on a flat tundra.

 

Battle of Endor:  Good space battle but ground assault...I don't think i need to elaborate here.

 

The point is the OT was great but let's not say everything was perfect and that we should just regurgitate what was done.  As a long time fan I'd like to be greedy. I want a compelling story with the grand spectacle and not have to argue about one diminishing the value of the other.  

 

Maybe you're too invested in the success of this movie. I don't have any fear of this movie being bad or becoming a mindless series of explosions and violence. I doubt the OT cast would be praising this movie if it were. Everything I've heard about it has been pretty positive.  

 

Again, missing the point. 

 

The level of importance to those battles aren't solely based on the scale of the actual battle, but the importance of them in terms to the narrative and how they applied to an overarching conflict. Battle of Yavin displayed the immerse threat that the Empire possessed and what the Rebels faced, compared to their small forces. The battle didn't only demonstrate the limited capacity of Rebels strength, but also played on the central theme of the movie--putting emphasis on a group of people facing impossible odds. It was a small scale scenario that correlated with what the whole movie wanted to establish, and thanks to the victory it cemented the Alliance as a legitimate military opponent to the Empire, leading to further escalation of war. The Battle of Hoth and the decimation of the Rebel cadres was of great consequence. The losses that the Alliance suffered in the defense of Hoth; shacked the balance of power within the Alliance that they had been building since post EP IV, with them struggling to reorganize its battered forces and being on the run again. Again, putting focus on the group's determination, being able to continue on fighting despite the odds, and ultimately concluding the central conflict in the last movie--with the Rebels unifying once more and with the aid from unexpected places (even though as silly as it was).

 

I never stated that the battles in the OT are perfect representation of military conflicts, since they aren't, and neither did my argument support them for that, but what the conflicts represented on a larger whole in the narrative and how each once had more compelling aspects at play with each individual battle. They aren't simply iconic for their time, but what has made them stand the test of it is how they applied the battles to complement the story. 

 

You stated in your earlier post that small battles like the OT have no reason of showing up in the upcoming films, to which I disagree on and stated that such scenarios can easily be implemented if done right. If one only cares about "visual splendor" as a justification for an good battle, then sure you are entitled to such opinion. But just like I pointed out, I don't want something like that just for the sake of it, and I fear "big and epic" is an easy trap to fall into in this current age. 

 

And no wars in a "Star Wars" movie? Do you not know how titles work?

 

I honestly have no clue how you came to this conclusion, since I haven't even mentioned anything about the removal of armed conflict from the movies, simply the scale of them, with big ones not being a necessity for something solid. 

 

It is good to hear that you are confident in the movie delivering a solid experience, however I am not as optimistic. Me being too invested in the success of the movie would probably be an accurate description. I'm gonna carry a pessimistic viewpoint on the movie, and hopefully all my fears end up being proven wrong once I witness it on the big screen.

[mybudgee]

You two need to get a room

(To have sex in)

[Chewin]

new poster from d23
 

Was hoping myself that the female character would be "the Jedi protagonist" of the story.

Just a personal preference.

Cast of Rogue One announced: 
 

Looks disappointing.

  

You two need to get a room
(To have sex in)

Oh you.

[In Exile]

Could be Obi-Wan's blade too

Didn't that get blown up with the Death Star?

[NeonFlux117]

Can't wait for the reveal of Darth Plagueis (That's Plagueis's lightsaber staff. Clearly, that Daisy is holding). I wonder if Plagueis will be revealed in Force Awakens, since this is disney, I could see a quick reveal after credits, much like they do with the marvel films. 

 

The "Awakening" is clearly a Sith Lord and , the only Sith Lord  that IS STILL ALIVE FOR SURE AND CANON is Darth Maul (Sidious did not kill him, he had "other" plans for him). Sidious also said that "Only one had cheated death" and Sidious illuminated that Plagues had indeed been able TOO Cheat death, even tho Sidious "killed him in his sleep"(but remember, he can't really die or can "cheat" death, say..... Appearing dead and going into a vampire like sleep, only to be... AWAKENED later on). The Novel Darth Plagueis (which is outstanding BTW) IS NOT CANON (Unfortunately) 

 

Only the Opera Scene with Sidious and Anakin in which he tells him of "Darth Plagueis the Wise". And when Anakin turns to the darkside and becomes Lord Vader, Anakin say's- "Just help me save Padame', I can't live without her" and Sidious say's- "To cheat death ONLY ONE has done. But I know if we work together we can discover the secret...."

 

That stuff is canon about Plagueis and Sidious and the Rule of Two. 

 

 

But remember Maul is still "out there". 

 

Something to maybe put on the back burner. 

[mybudgee]

Neon what ARE you talking about??

[TheChosenOne]

Neon what ARE you talking about??

He's on spice. Really good ones too

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Spice

[SmilesJA]

Can't wait for the reveal of Darth Plagueis (That's Plagueis's lightsaber staff. Clearly, that Daisy is holding). I wonder if Plagueis will be revealed in Force Awakens, since this is disney, I could see a quick reveal after credits, much like they do with the marvel films. 

 

 

How do you know that's Plageuis staff?

[NeonFlux117]

How do you know that's Plageuis staff?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's Plagueis. And He's probably more powerful than Sidious.... As Sidious had to murder him in his sleep rather than open battle as the Rule of Two dictates. And Sidious had not unlocked the "secret". Even tho Sidious was incredibly talented in the ways' of Sith Alchemy and magic, he had not the ability to cheat death. But Plagueis did.... 

 

Or... Maybe it was just a plant that Sidious told to Anakin to entice him (probably) 

[NeonFlux117]

Neon what ARE you talking about??

 

Star Wars 7 The Force Awakens and the Sith. Try and keep up bro. 

[The Invader]

Can't wait for the reveal of Darth Plagueis (That's Plagueis's lightsaber staff. Clearly, that Daisy is holding). I wonder if Plagueis will be revealed in Force Awakens, since this is disney, I could see a quick reveal after credits, much like they do with the marvel films. 
 
The "Awakening" is clearly a Sith Lord and , the only Sith Lord  that IS STILL ALIVE FOR SURE AND CANON is Darth Maul (Sidious did not kill him, he had "other" plans for him). Sidious also said that "Only one had cheated death" and Sidious illuminated that Plagues had indeed been able TOO Cheat death, even tho Sidious "killed him in his sleep"(but remember, he can't really die or can "cheat" death, say..... Appearing dead and going into a vampire like sleep, only to be... AWAKENED later on). The Novel Darth Plagueis (which is outstanding BTW) IS NOT CANON (Unfortunately) 
 
Only the Opera Scene with Sidious and Anakin in which he tells him of "Darth Plagueis the Wise". And when Anakin turns to the darkside and becomes Lord Vader, Anakin say's- "Just help me save Padame', I can't live without her" and Sidious say's- "To cheat death ONLY ONE has done. But I know if we work together we can discover the secret...."
 
That stuff is canon about Plagueis and Sidious and the Rule of Two. 
 
 
But remember Maul is still "out there". 
 
Something to maybe put on the back burner.

Yeah, he was capable of transferring his essence or spirit into other people. Dude could of transferred his spirit to his damn lightsaber and hid out in it for the next thousand years(if he wanted) no way Sidious was able to kill someone that powerful.

[NeonFlux117]

Yeah, he was capable of transferring his essence or spirit into other people. Dude could of transferred his spirit to his damn lightsaber and hid out in it for the next thousand years(if he wanted) no way Sidious was able to kill someone that powerful.

 

I thought the knowledge of Transer Essence was lost when Darth Gravid went to the lightside and started destroying Sith teachings... 

 

Also, this is from the novel Darth Plagueis and like I said earlier, is NOT canon. 

 

(I really, really think Disney should make a few "legends" novels canon, I think The Bane Trilogy should be and definitely Darth Plagueis. These novels do not hurt continuity at all within what I like to call the SkyWalker Saga. They only enhanced and fill in gaps for the lore) 

 

But I do like your idea, and I think they are doing something similar with the Sith Artifacts, specifically that Staff. I think it's Plagueis puppet mastering behind the scenes. 

[Commander Rpg]

Theorically, the exiled in Kotor 2 should eat Darth Plagueis in one bite.

[The Invader]

I thought the knowledge of Transer Essence was lost when Darth Gravid went to the lightside and started destroying Sith teachings... 
 
Also, this is from the novel Darth Plagueis and like I said earlier, is NOT canon. 
 
(I really, really think Disney should make a few "legends" novels canon, I think The Bane Trilogy should be and definitely Darth Plagueis. These novels do not hurt continuity at all within what I like to call the SkyWalker Saga. They only enhanced and fill in gaps for the lore) 
 
But I do like your idea, and I think they are doing something similar with the Sith Artifacts, specifically that Staff. I think it's Plagueis puppet mastering behind the scenes.

It wouldn't surprise me, honestly I have a hard time remembering who is capable of what. So many novels with their own lore it's all kind of mashed together as one big story in my head lol.

[NeonFlux117]

Theorically, the exiled in Kotor 2 should eat Darth Plagueis in one bite.

 

And Revan would fvck up both hard. But hey... Kotor is just Kotor and not canon... Good job Disney. NOT!

It wouldn't surprise me, honestly I have a hard time remembering who is capable of what. So many novels with their own lore it's all kind of mashed together as one big story in my head lol.

 

Yep, true story. But I think the stuff that happens before episode one can be somewhat canonized. I mean the events of Kotor and stuff are like 4000 years before Battle of Yavin... But it's not canon, lol. Disney logic. 

[The Invader]

I eagerly await the day when a Star Wars movie is released and the main character is Sith or Dark Jedi( so I could cheer him on as he puts those Jedi to the sword ) on his quest to learn their secrets and become a Sith Lord.

[DeathScepter]

 

 

 

 

 

It's Plagueis. And He's probably more powerful than Sidious.... As Sidious had to murder him in his sleep rather than open battle as the Rule of Two dictates. And Sidious had not unlocked the "secret". Even tho Sidious was incredibly talented in the ways' of Sith Alchemy and magic, he had not the ability to cheat death. But Plagueis did.... 

 

Or... Maybe it was just a plant that Sidious told to Anakin to entice him (probably) 

 

 

Well Sidious is known to blending the truth and a bit of a falsehood when he talks. a good liar will use some truth in their lies. I do think Sidious did knew Plagueis and killed him in his sleep due to Plagueis is a dangerous Sith Lord. I do believe that Sidious and Plagueis are very powerful Sith Lords.

 

 

 

Have Ties to the Prequels and Original Trilogies is a good thing while pressing the Story.

[Commander Rpg]

And Revan would fvck up both hard.

From what I perceived, Revan is a true master and the heart of the Force, while the Exiled messes with the Force since he/she's been severed from it, and surpasses every boundary, he's death for the Force... so if Dark Plagueis takes one bite, Revan takes two. Fire can make water boil and evaporate, but if water is of the same level of fire, it estinguishes that. Revan is fire and the Exiled is water.

 

Sorry.

[DarthSliver]

And Revan would fvck up both hard. But hey... Kotor is just Kotor and not canon... Good job Disney. NOT!

 

Yep, true story. But I think the stuff that happens before episode one can be somewhat canonized. I mean the events of Kotor and stuff are like 4000 years before Battle of Yavin... But it's not canon, lol. Disney logic. 

 

Bioware needs to step up and remake Kotor in a Mass Effect Cinematic awesome and use The Force Unleashed combat system to a degree of course lol.