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[mybudgee]

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[TheChosenOne]

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Love all those reasons! especially number two   

[Dermain]

I do hope you're wrong 

 

Please specify how you think he's wrong.

 

It could be memorable and extremely bad, as well as any other sort of combination. 

[Han Shot First]

You know who would make an excellent Sith Lord villain? 

 

Spoiler

[mybudgee]

Charles Dance is the Daddy Mack

[TheOneTrueBioticGod]

You know who would make an excellent Sith Lord villain? 

 

Spoiler

He would make a good Pellaeon

[mybudgee]

*coughs*

[Captain Obvious]

I'd be fine if the Legacy of the Force series is the new movies, to an extent. Move it up seven years, get rid of the dark nest crisis, and remake it. 

It had good ideas, but parts of it were butchered. But the Vong and Thrawn had better ****** remain. 
 

**** no. The Vong were shitty villains and the Legacy of the Force was a shitty series. 

[mybudgee]

I liked the Vong. Some characters got into some silly arcs, (Nom Anor) but overall they were a unique and compelling species. It's true LotF was a weak series, but some of the NJO books were great, especially when Ganner sacrifices himself to save the other Jedi students or any of the transformative/self-discovery stuff between Jacen & Vergere.

I do admit that the Zonama Sekot thing was a bit of a cop-out

[Han Shot First]

If the original cast wasn't so old the Thrawn trilogy would have made the perfect sequels. They were the best books of the EU.

 

Also Thrawn.

[TheOneTrueBioticGod]

**** no. The Vong were shitty villains and the Legacy of the Force was a shitty series. 

LotF was fairly crappy, but it did have some good ideas and moments. 

Of course, it's rather ironic someone with a Clone Wars profile picture is criticizing the NJO for its villians. Or really criticizing it at all.  

[Captain Obvious]

LotF was fairly crappy, but it did have some good ideas and moments. 

Of course, it's rather ironic someone with a Clone Wars profile picture is criticizing the NJO for its villians. Or really criticizing it at all.  

lol The Clone Wars had some pretty great villains whilst the NJO's villains were boring with their own story going on too long (basically sums up the NJO as a whole). Now James Luceno's Darth Plagueis. Now that was a ****** great book. And it was just one book, not the multi-book monstrosity that the NJO was. 

[TheChosenOne]

I just wish for Mara Jade Skywalker....... Also would be nice to see some TOR movies as well.....

[mybudgee]

Agreed. Plageuis was damn good

[TheOneTrueBioticGod]

lol The Clone Wars had some pretty great villains whilst the NJO's villains were boring with their own story going on too long (basically sums up the NJO as a whole). Now James Luceno's Darth Plagueis. Now that was a ****** great book. And it was just one book, not the multi-book monstrosity that the NJO was. 

Like who? Idiots who make an appearance, fight, then run away to fight another day do not make good villians. All the ones are just mustache twirling cliches. 

The Vong weren't another evil Sith, force using villians like every other enemy in the entire saga. Awesome technology, interesting viewpoint, and competent to certain degree. 

And the NJO brought a great new philosophy on the force. Then George Lucas came in and made them make Vergere a Sith and mess it all up with LotF. 

Really, George Lucas's absence from the new movies is a huge plus. He has no say, and that's a great thing. 

[mybudgee]

The Vong weren't another evil Sith, force using villians like every other enemy in the entire saga. Awesome technology, interesting viewpoint, and competent to certain degree. 

And the NJO brought a great new philosophy on the force. Then George Lucas came in and made them make Vergere a Sith and mess it all up with LotF. 

Really, George Lucas's absence from the new movies is a huge plus. He has no say, and that's a great thing. 

I like you

[TheOneTrueBioticGod]

I like you

You're not so bad yourself. 

[Dermain]

I just wish for Mara Jade Skywalker....... Also would be nice to see some TOR movies as well.....

 

I wouldn't mind seeing some movies from the Old Republic era, but I doubt we'll ever see them.

 

People will complain about all of the "new" technology that was never present in the original series (because of something called technical limitations of the '80's).

[TheChosenOne]

I wouldn't mind seeing some movies from the Old Republic era, but I doubt we'll ever see them.
 
People will complain about all of the "new" technology that was never present in the original series (because of something called technical limitations of the '80's).

I always laugh at people for bringing that up!

[Captain Obvious]

Like who? Idiots who make an appearance, fight, then run away to fight another day do not make good villians. All the ones are just mustache twirling cliches. 

The Vong weren't another evil Sith, force using villians like every other enemy in the entire saga. Awesome technology, interesting viewpoint, and competent to certain degree. 

And the NJO brought a great new philosophy on the force. Then George Lucas came in and made them make Vergere a Sith and mess it all up with LotF. 

Really, George Lucas's absence from the new movies is a huge plus. He has no say, and that's a great thing. 

lol Like people who receive good character development and have actual charisma to them (particularly Cad Bane on this last part). I'm guessing you didn't watch the whole series. 

 

The problem with the Vong is that they weren't an example of why non-Sith villains are bad, they're an example of badly written villains period. Especially Nom Anor, who is essentially a boring mustache-twirling villain. They were the typical Technology Hating threat that's been done before. The fact that they didn't use the Force counts for **** if they're boring villains. Doesn't help that they focused on lazy shock value (Chewbacca's death being a good example) for no other reason than for some half-assed attempt to be GRIMDARK or some **** like that. Also, funny you should bring up the Legacy of the Force series, as the biggest problem with that series were the shitty writers (namely, Troy Denning and Karen Traviss) along with the fact that the style of writing changed with the array of writers (so same problem the NJO had). 

 

Pre-ROTJ EU > Post-ROTJ EU

[TheClonesLegacy]

Like who? Idiots who make an appearance, fight, then run away to fight another day do not make good villians. All the ones are just mustache twirling cliches. 

The only ones that are like that are Sidious, Grievous, and Dooku. 

Maybe Pong Krell if you stretch it, but he was a pretty good villain, especially for Fives and Rex to butt heads with. Those episodes regarded as some of the best in the series.

As for the running away bit. Yeah Cad usually left when he didn't have the upper hand. Like pretty much anyone with half a brain would. Better to live then get shanked.

Pre Vizsla? Maul straight up Eddard Stark'd him. And before that, Obi Wan kicked his ass, and got exiled. There was none of that in either cases.

Maul and Savage? Most of the time people are trying to run away from them.

Hondo? He's a pirate, you really think he'd stick around to get caught or killed? He's got pirate things to do with that lovely voice of Jim Cummings.

[Captain Obvious]

The only ones that are like that are Sidious, Grievous, and Dooku. 

Maybe Pong Krell if you stretch it, but he was a pretty good villain, especially for Fives and Rex to butt heads with. Those episodes regarded as some of the best in the series.

As for the running away bit. Yeah Cad usually left when he didn't have the upper hand. Like pretty much anyone with half a brain would. Better to live then get shanked.

Pre Vizsla? Maul straight up Eddard Stark'd him. And before that, Obi Wan kicked his ass.

Maul and Savage? Most of the time people are trying to run away from them.

Hondo? He's a pirate, you really think he'd stick around to get caught or killed? He's got pirate things to do with that lovely voice of Jim Cummings.

Cad Bane held his own against both Obi-Wan and Quinlan Vos in a fight and has outmaneuvered the Jedi time after time with a cool voice and a presence to him that villains like the Yuuzhan Vong lack. Pre Vizsla is a capable warrior with a strong sense of honor who wants to restore Mandalore to it's former glory. Maul actually got character development in the series unlike TPM; a cunning and ambitious Sith who lost his place after Sidious disowned him. Savage was a caring brother turned against his will who even in the end only wanted to be like his brother but couldn't. Both established a huge power base. Hondo can be both an ally and a villain. He's another charismatic character with a rogue charm who wits and nice voice. What's not to like about him?

 

Anyway, since we're veering off-topic, I'm just going to post this here:

 

http://www.theforce....tion_159662.asp

 

Remember this Stormtrooper helmet image we posted earlier? Well, RPF member R5SB dug a bit deeper into the image to find that it was geotagged with the location of Pinewood Studios where Star Wars Episode VII is being filmed. Coincidence? I think not. Click here to check it out!

 

[TheClonesLegacy]

And also: why are we an in-length discussion about The Clone Wars and the NJO in a discussion thread about the new Star Wars movie coming out?

Because from my standpoint episode 7 is the most meh thing being made right now.

It's a film that's just going to bank on the nostalgia of everyones "Precious" childhoods. The childhoods that have been very violated by nothing.

That's why we're trying to have 70 year old Harrison Ford do action scenes. In that sense it's no different than Indiana Jones 4.

 

I'm looking more forward to Jurassic World and Age of Ultron.

 

Clone Wars is better topic.

[TheOneTrueBioticGod]

lol Like people who receive good character development and have actual charisma to them (particularly Cad Bane on this last part). I'm guessing you didn't watch the whole series. 

 

The problem with the Vong is that they weren't an example of why non-Sith villains are bad, they're an example of badly written villains period. Especially Nom Anor, who is essentially a boring mustache-twirling villain. They were the typical Technology Hating threat that's been done before. The fact that they didn't use the Force counts for **** if they're boring villains. Doesn't help that they focused on lazy shock value (Chewbacca's death being a good example) for no other reason than for some half-assed attempt to be GRIMDARK or some **** like that. Also, funny you should bring up the Legacy of the Force series, as the biggest problem with that series were the shitty writers (namely, Troy Denning and Karen Traviss) along with the fact that the style of writing changed with the array of writers (so same problem the NJO had). 

 

Pre-ROTJ EU > Post-ROTJ EU

I couldn't. I tried watching it starting from the first season, and couldn't get past episode three. 
I heard the later seasons got more mature, so I went to season four. I couldn't make it fifteen minutes. 

If you found the Vong boring, then it's your own fault. Chewbacca died to show that characters weren't safe anymore, as we saw again with Ganner, Anakin, and Tahiri to an extent. 

No, the biggest problem with that series was George Lucas forcing Vergere into having been a Sith. It's all downhill from there. 

No. Of course, George Lucas had nothing to do any of the EU, outside of his needless meddling.