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I've reached a few conclusions on how the story will play out and am under the assumption that the concept art is real and I am disappointed (the art is amazing by the way, too bad none of it is big enough to be my desktop wallpaper). I think the art is real because it matches with rumors I've been hearing for a long time, like an AT-AT on a desert planet, Vader's helmet (just in general) and an upgraded stormtrooper variant with chrome armor. 

 

The first conclusion may be the least obvious one, the guy in the Dark Knight labelled pic is Luke Skywalker and is separate from "the Grave Robber". I've come to this conclusion because you can see skin around one of the Dark Knight's eyes due to a hole in Vader's helm (I swear that is Vader's helmet on his face), while you cannot with the Grave Robber in either picture, however this could be because it is concept art or because the Grave Robber was wearing a different mask and it isn't cybernetics like I assume. This has lead me to think that perhaps Episode VII is about Luke Skywalker (the Dark Knight) and the Grave Robber racing to find/ or fighting over (because Luke might have had it since Episode VI) Vader's helmet due to its potential as a symbol. 

 

Perhaps Luke has actually made his own Order, but not necessarily a Jedi one, perhaps this hypothetical Order walks in the light, but walk a very short distance from crossing over to the dark side (I suggest this because the figure is wearing robes similar to Jedi ones). What if Luke wears Vader's helmet as way of delivering a message to his students and/or as a reminder of how far one can fall and what good can still linger in them? Maybe the Graver Robber ends up holding the helmet because he has killed Luke and thus ended the Skywalker bloodline? 

 

A separate theory is that maybe Luke is wearing Vader's helmet and is going around doing good deeds trying to atone for Vader?

 

Another theory is that the Dark Knight could be a dark side Luke and the Grave Robber could be his (Sith or Sith knock-off) apprentice or vice-versa.  

 

The obvious theory is that the Grave Robber is Luke Skywalker, the thing that draws me to say that is the Cybernetic right hand, it is the same hand that Luke got chopped off in The Empire Strikes Back, maybe the false skin overlay of it has peeled off over time or was damaged. Actually, maybe Luke got badly hurt and was assumed dead, but he thought that his friends left him for dead and that caused him to go dark side (which would explain the Graver Robbers face and the skin missing from the cybernetic hand)? 

 

When it comes to Vader's helmet, I can't imagine anyone going after other than Luke, I mean yes, Vader effected a lot of lives, but the 30 year gap is what currently kills my ability to believe it being anyone other than Luke or maybe a secret apprentice, but that is unlikely because Vader wanted Luke for that purpose. For someone to come in and get Vader's mask after 30 years? There has to be a personal connection between Vader and that individual, now whether it is admiration or hate, that could go either way, but I'm leaning towards admiration since I believe I see someone wearing the mask in one of those pictures. 

 

All I know is that I am going to be upset if Luke goes full dark side because I will see it as a cheap thing that they did for shock value. The Emperor and Vader were the most reasonable things that could make Luke turn dark side and they are gone, not to mention that it would cheapen the message of the Original Trilogy, really what is currently the whole saga.   

 

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All I know is; the original trilogy was a benchmark in sci-fi/fantasy film making. One of the hurdles the prequels had to clear was the narrative corner Lucas painted himself into -- certain things were inevitable. They HAD to happen. Beyond these necessary plot points, the script was mostly 'fluff', events largely character driven, but not all that crucial to the overall hero arc or themes of the fallen prodigy.

Abrams has NONE of this baggage to deal with. He merely has to stay true to the patriarchal story and the stars of the OT. After this, he can do almost anything he wants (Lucas and Kennedy must also gibe their thumbs up, of course).

 

The point I am trying to make is: this trilogy has a chance to match or TOP the Empire Strikes Back! As fans, let's try to keep some perspective and remember that after all, the folks involved in this film are fans too... 

(except the really young punks, who have no idea what a profound shift these films caused back in the late 70s- early 80s)

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Dark Side Luke would be an awful idea.

 

It would be completely invalidate the finale of RotJ. Please no. 


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Dark Side Luke would be an awful idea.

 

It would be completely invalidate the finale of RotJ. Please no. 

 

that is why I am glad that Dark Empire is not canon anymore for that reason. And the Overpowered as hell Palpatine.


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Better than most of RotJ.


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Better than most of RotJ.

This forum needs a "Dislike This" button tbh.


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The pictures got deleted, I say that they are legitimate. I just can't imagine someone spending weeks/months making those pictures, put them up to troll the internet, and then remove them in less then/slightly longer than 24 hours. I'm glad I saved all of them with the "Grave Robber" and the "Dark Knight".  :P

 

Edit: You can find all the leaked pictures here: http://indierevolver...art-has-leaked/



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Uh-oh...

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The pictures got deleted, I say that they are legitimate. I just can't imagine someone spending weeks/months making those pictures, put them up to troll the internet, and then remove them in less then/slightly longer than 24 hours. I'm glad I saved all of them with the "Grave Robber" and the "Dark Knight":P

 

Edit: You can find all the leaked pictures here: http://indierevolver...art-has-leaked/

 

Batman confirmed for Star Wars 7 


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Batman confirmed for Star Wars 7 

There is actually a rumor on the Jedi Council Forums that someone from the Dark Knight trilogy is going to have a role of some importance in Episode 7. Gary Oldman is known to have been approached about a role, but it is unknown if it is him or not (some are speculating Tom Hardy (Bane) and Christian Bale (Batman)). The rumor is a very flimsy one with no sources to back it up.

 

I like your post (posting this because I am out of likes).  



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There is actually a rumor on the Jedi Council Forums that someone from the Dark Knight trilogy is going to have a role of some importance in Episode 7. Gary Oldman is known to have been approached about a role, but it is unknown if it is him or not (some are speculating Tom Hardy (Bane) and Christian Bale (Batman)). The rumor is a very flimsy one with no sources to back it up.

 

I like your post (posting this because I am out of likes).  

 

The main villain will be Darth Bane played by Tom Hardy :P


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God I love Darth Bane...

I just saw another BS story about David Fincher directing a spin -off film about "slavers". That would be worthy of a nerdgasm

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It would be interesting if Darth Bane was in the film, especially because of the fact that Mark Hamill voiced him in The Clone Wars. Imagine Mark Hamill playing both Luke Skywalker and Darth Bane?  

 

I've read some fan claims/theories that have to do with possession being in Episode 7, however they always point towards Darth Plagueis (a lot of the fanbase seems to want Plagueis in the Sequel Trilogy and have him be the architect of everything that has transpired. I grant that it would be a pretty neat twist if he faked his death and let Palpatine kill off the Jedi and bring the galaxy for under Sith rule while he continued to search for immortality or some such, my only problem with it is why wait 30+ years after Palpatine is dead to return). 

 

While not really relevant to the conversation I wanted to add that Palpatine's first name is Sheev according to the new upcoming Tarkin novel  :sick:


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To me, Palpatine neither has nor needs a first name.
Also, why the HELL was Bane in the Clone Wars?!? Goddamnit Cartoon Network! He lived 1200 years BBY FFS!!

One more thing; to hell with the new Tarkin novel. I strongly recommend the Plageius book by James Luceno. It makes the prequels a bit more palatable
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To me, Palpatine neither has nor needs a first name.
Also, why the HELL was Bane in the Clone Wars?!? Goddamnit Cartoon Network! He lived 1200 years BBY FFS!!

One more thing; to hell with the new Tarkin novel. I strongly recommend the Plageius book by James Luceno. It makes the prequels a bit more palatable

 

I'm assuming that the Tarkin novel wasn't good?


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To me, Palpatine neither has nor needs a first name.
Also, why the HELL was Bane in the Clone Wars?!? Goddamnit Cartoon Network! He lived 1200 years BBY FFS!!

One more thing; to hell with the new Tarkin novel. I strongly recommend the Plageius book by James Luceno. It makes the prequels a bit more palatable


Wasn't he a ghost in the Clone Wars?
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To me, Palpatine neither has nor needs a first name.
Also, why the HELL was Bane in the Clone Wars?!? Goddamnit Cartoon Network! He lived 1200 years BBY FFS!!

One more thing; to hell with the new Tarkin novel. I strongly recommend the Plageius book by James Luceno. It makes the prequels a bit more palatable

I agree, I liked how the Plagueis novel handled it. 

 

He was either a spirit or a vision, so it was acceptable. Now what was not acceptable and was done in the same episode, was George Lucas having the Clone Wars team override existing canon and having Korriban's name changed to Morriband...

 

The Clone Wars team or Leland Chee (can't remember which) then fixed that by saying something to the effect of the galaxy at large didn't know about Korriban and mistook it as a new planet. 

 

Ironically, the new Tarkin novel is being written by James Luceno. I think that this new canon thing is going to be a pissing contest for quite a while, the authors are going to want to leave their own mark in as many ways as they can, giving Palpatine a first name was a pretty big way to do it, if this pattern continues than buckle up and expect things like Dooku to have a first name and Darth Maul to have his real name revealed in the near future and they'll probably be as terrible as Sheev. Steve would have been slightly better..

 

I'm assuming that the Tarkin novel wasn't good?

I don't know, it comes out November 4th. 

 

Wasn't he a ghost in the Clone Wars?

I can't remember if he was a spirit or a vision, but here he is: Ep_13_Sacrifice_03.png



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I agree, I liked how the Plagueis novel handled it. 

 

He was either a spirit or a vision, so it was acceptable. Now what was not acceptable and was done in the same episode, was George Lucas having the Clone Wars team override existing canon and having Korriban's name changed to Morriband...

 

The Clone Wars team or Leland Chee (can't remember which) then fixed that by saying something to the effect of the galaxy at large didn't know about Korriban and mistook it as a new planet. 

 

Really? The Jedi Archives didn't have a mention of Korriban? 



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I agree, I liked how the Plagueis novel handled it. 

 

He was either a spirit or a vision, so it was acceptable. Now what was not acceptable and was done in the same episode, was George Lucas having the Clone Wars team override existing canon and having Korriban's name changed to Morriband...

 

The Clone Wars team or Leland Chee (can't remember which) then fixed that by saying something to the effect of the galaxy at large didn't know about Korriban and mistook it as a new planet. 

 

Ironically, the new Tarkin novel is being written by James Luceno. I think that this new canon thing is going to be a pissing contest for quite a while, the authors are going to want to leave their own mark in as many ways as they can, giving Palpatine a first name was a pretty big way to do it, if this pattern continues than buckle up and expect things like Dooku to have a first name and Darth Maul to have his real name revealed in the near future and they'll probably be as terrible as Sheev. Steve would have been slightly better..

 

I don't know, it comes out November 4th. 

 

I can't remember if he was a spirit or a vision, but here he is: [snip]

Whoa



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Dark Side Luke would be an awful idea.

 

It would be completely invalidate the finale of RotJ. Please no. 

 

I think they go with hermit Luke, personally. Something along the lines of him withdrawing from the world some time after ROTJ. 



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Really? The Jedi Archives didn't have a mention of Korriban? 

They might have, perhaps Dooku changed it like he did with Kamino? Although, you'd think that Yoda would know/remember something as serious as that seeing as to how he would have had access to the archives before Dooku. If I had to guess, maybe one of the Lost Twenty (before Dooku, so I guess the Lost Ninteen at this point) changed it. I don't remember the exact canonical reason for it, but it was something on par with what I stated. Regardless the change was freaking dumb, Korriban has been in the canon for at least 15 (if not 20 plus) years and everyone knows it by that at this point, not to mention it rolls off the tongue better than Morriband Moraband.

 

I went ahead and looked up the Darth Bane scene for those who are interested in it:

 

 

 

Edit: My memory is super faulty. Here is the official explanation for the Korriban name change: Korriban appears in the final episodes of Star Wars: The Clone Wars. George Lucas preferred the name "Moraband" to Korriban during story development, leading the episode "Sacrifice" to refer to the planet as Moraband. The episode guide's trivia gallery clarified the issue, stating that Korriban has had multiple names throughout its history. As Korriban is referred to as such in material that is later in terms of in-universe chronology, this article retains the planet's name of Korriban.

 

Source: http://starwars.wiki...hind_the_scenes



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I have no idea if this has been linked already, but it would be really hard to find 7 consecutive videos that contain as much truth in them as these ones!



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I went ahead and looked up the Darth Bane scene for those who are interested in it:

 

 

 

He's voiced by Mark Hamill and looks like a Samurai.

What's not to love?


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What a crock
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