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[SmilesJA]

So is the The Old Republic canon? 

[DeathScepter]

So is the The Old Republic canon? 

it is not canon until stated other ways.

 

 

Movies, the Clone Wars, Rebels, Son of Dathmir, Takin, the New Darth Vader comic series from marvel and the Sequel Trilogy are currently canon.

[mybudgee]

So is the The Old Republic canon? 

Nothing before about a year ago is canon. (other than the six films & the CW animated series) It also must have the Disney logo  on it...

[Vroom Vroom]

Speaking of Stars Wars games...

 

I'd love to see an RPG set far into the future after RoTJ. Say, maybe 500 years or so. I think it would be interesting to play in a galaxy shaped by the events of the original trilogy and Luke's resurrection of the Jedi. 

 

That is assuming that the new trilogy doesn't leave all of that borked.

One of the first concepts for The Force Unleashed was something like that in terms of sitting on the timeline, I think it was 600 or 800 (I always confuse my sixes and eights  ) years after A New Hope and was going to deal with the player playing as the last Skywalker. I've always thought that Star Wars should have jumped ahead on the timeline, while I appreciated the Legacy comics, I always felt that they didn't jump far enough ahead.   

[Vroom Vroom]

Nothing before about a year ago is canon. (other than the six films & the CW animated series) It also must have the Disney logo  on it...

^This. The main films, Clone Wars film and series, the Rebels "film" and series, the book "A New Dawn" and every book (other than the parodies) released after it is canon. The upcoming Star Wars: Battlefront campaign will presumably be canon. I've heard talk that The Old Republic might make its way back into canon someday, but for now it remains non canon. Interesting fact: Darth Revan almost appeared in the Mortis arc of the Clone Wars which would have made the character canon. Had that happened both KotORs and TOR might be canon today.

 

 

Here is Revan's cut The Clone Wars model for the episode "Ghosts of Mortis":

 

  

 

and here is Darth Bane's cut "Ghosts of Mortis" model as a bonus (he later did make it into The Clone Wars and thus stayed canon):

 

[mybudgee]

[Dermain]

^This. The main films, Clone Wars film and series, the Rebels "film" and series, the book "A New Dawn" and every book (other than the parodies) released after it is canon. The upcoming Star Wars: Battlefront campaign will presumably be canon. I've heard talk that The Old Republic might make its way back into canon someday, but for now it remains non canon. Interesting fact: Darth Revan almost appeared in the Mortis arc of the Clone Wars which would have made the character canon. Had that happened both KotORs and TOR might be canon today.

 

 

Here is Revan's cut The Clone Wars model for the episode "Ghosts of Mortis":

 

  

 

and here is Darth Bane's cut "Ghosts of Mortis" model as a bonus (he later did make it into The Clone Wars and thus stayed canon):

 

 

Didn't Darth Bane study Revan's holocron before he created the Rule of Two?

 

Doesn't that make Revan canon? 

[mybudgee]

LOLlogic

[Vroom Vroom]

Didn't Darth Bane study Revan's holocron before he created the Rule of Two?

 

Doesn't that make Revan canon? 

That was only stated in the books that came before the Disney buy-out which renders that information non-canon/Legends. 

 

I've seen rumors regarding an

Spoiler

artifact collector in Episode VII and Revan's mask being among his collected artifacts

, maybe that'll pan out and Revan can be canon again.  

[mybudgee]

That was only stated in the books that came before the Disney buy-out which renders that information non-canon/Legends. 

 

I've seen rumors regarding an

Spoiler

artifact collector in Episode VII and Revan's mask being among his collected artifacts

, maybe that'll pan out and Revan can be canon again.  

If only...

 

[Nerevar-as]

That was only stated in the books that came before the Disney buy-out which renders that information non-canon/Legends.

I've seen rumors regarding an

Spoiler

artifact collector in Episode VII and Revan's mask being among his collected artifacts

, maybe that'll pan out and Revan can be canon again.

What for? The poor guy was screwed royally by TOR because dark and gritty and nihilist bs. Only thing I got clear from it is Drew would probably have screwed Mass Effect ending too.

[DeathScepter]

Didn't Darth Bane study Revan's holocron before he created the Rule of Two?

 

Doesn't that make Revan canon? 

the Darth Bane Trilogy is not canon as of yet.

[Vox Draco]

Alright, back to some Episode 7 rumor-discussion I guess

 

http://www.inquisitr...ajor-character/

 

I don't know if discussing unconfirmed infos like qualify as spoilers? I guess not ... so, if the above is true, it would actually confirm some of my thoughts about this "major character" aka Han Solo. I am pretty sure he won't survive Epsiode 7, for many reasons:

 

- Harrison ford simply is both old AND expensive...so giving him a heroic death (unlike Captain Kirk, please!) and afterwards focus on revenge, and a younger cast?

 

- the above: It sounds harsh but planning ahead with Ford into the future of the franchise is a bit risky. Not realyl an important reasons though, mind you. But..well...

 

- Ford always wanted Han to die, so maybe this was actually the condition he signed in the first place? (other than the piles of money, of course ^^)

 

- Storywise, if the main badguy kills off Han Solo? Well, that would be quite a thing, don't you think? I mean to establish his evilness in the common fan's eye?

 

- Shock-Value! Fans already went to the barricades when Chewie got offed in the books (which I never cared about, because Yuzhaan Vong are stupid). Now let's give the fans something to rant, talk, hate about - if done right and with dignity (again, look at Kirk please for the way not doing it...), could be quite cool, not as the revelation of Darth Vader's parenthood, but at least cooler than Midichlorians

 

Personally I wouldn't mind seeing Han Solo go. I love this char, but...I think the story would greatly benefit (ahem, I don't know the story, but assume so...) from a tragic loss, putting the stakes a bit higher by killing a major character instead of billions of nameless clones and side-char we barely knew...

[Vroom Vroom]

What for? The poor guy was screwed royally by TOR because dark and gritty and nihilist bs. Only thing I got clear from it is Drew would probably have screwed Mass Effect ending too.

Drew wasn't present for and did not write any part of Revan's story after the Foundry.

 

I agree with you though, I feel like Revan's time is over. Let him stay in the Legends universe that way we can have room for new, great characters in this canon. I want less of the same and more different from what we've seen in Legends. If we get too much of the same then rebooting the Canon is pointless and an absolute waste.  

[DeathScepter]

as for me, I would be happy if Kotor 1 and 2 were canon and Not TOR.

[DeckardWasAReplicant]

as for me, I would be happy if Kotor 1 and 2 were canon and Not TOR.

I played the first two what happened in TOR that was so bad?

[DeathScepter]

I played the first two what happened in TOR that was so bad?

In TOR, Combination of bad writing and shoehorning Revan and Jedi Exile into The Old Republic. Also TOR doesn't really need them in the overall scheme of things to make it a good MMO. So it was Shoehorning, Bad Writing and Un-needed addition of Revan and Jedi Exile didn't set well with Fans of Kotor 1 and 2 like myself.

 

Yes I am a fan of both Revan and Jedi Exile a great deal and I don't see them being shoehorn help them out or TOR out in any way or form.  I might bring up my Kotor Trilogy thread again.

[Nerevar-as]

I played the first two what happened in TOR that was so bad?

Imagine Luke dissapears a couple of years after RotJ, reappears several centuries later, and dies without doing much. Only thing it amounted to was overwriting KotoR´s happy ending, and KotoR II "what´s going to happen now" one.

[DeckardWasAReplicant]

In TOR, Combination of bad writing and shoehorning Revan and Jedi Exile into The Old Republic. Also TOR doesn't really need them in the overall scheme of things to make it a good MMO. So it was Shoehorning, Bad Writing and Un-needed addition of Revan and Jedi Exile didn't set well with Fans of Kotor 1 and 2 like myself.

 

Yes I am a fan of both Revan and Jedi Exile a great deal and I don't see them being shoehorn help them out or TOR out in any way or form.  I might bring up my Kotor Trilogy thread again.

If you did I would read it because I love the first two games, I didnt care for the story in the second as much

[DeathScepter]

Imagine Luke dissapears a couple of years after RotJ, reappears several centuries later, and dies without doing much. Only thing it amounted to was overwriting KotoR´s happy ending, and KotoR II "what´s going to happen now" one.

 

 

the re appearance after the couple centuries is not a bad idea but the execution of it was bad very bad. Also the Novel Revan has a lot of good ideas within it like Canderous's wife, Scourge and Darth Nyriss. Vitatie's design used elements of Traya, Sion and Nihilus without any drawbacks making him seemly more powerful than them or Darth Sidious. 

 

Having a Powerful Sith Lord is a good thing for an arch boss within Star Wars but making him seemingly undefeatable is a bad thing. Keep in mind, even Jar Jar Bink  can defeat someone like Darth Sidious under the right situation. Like Darth Sidious running after Jar Jar Binks, and Sidious slips on a banana peel and falls down a flight of stairs or a silly accident caused by Jar Jar Binks. Yes under a fair fight, Sidious is superior than Jar Jar Bink in every shape and form, My point is that even a Superior character can lose to an inferior character under the right situation. Yes I do find it funny that a villain sue losing to a non garty/mary sue character.

[DeckardWasAReplicant]

the re appearance after the couple centuries is not a bad idea but the execution of it was bad very bad. Also the Novel Revan has a lot of good ideas within it like Canderous's wife, Scourge and Darth Nyriss. Vitatie's design used elements of Traya, Sion and Nihilus without any drawbacks making him seemly more powerful than them or Darth Sidious. 

 

Having a Powerful Sith Lord is a good thing for an arch boss within Star Wars but making him seemingly undefeatable is a bad thing. Keep in mind, even Jar Jar Bink  can defeat someone like Darth Sidious under the right situation. Like Darth Sidious running after Jar Jar Binks, and Sidious slips on a banana peel and falls down a flight of stairs or a silly accident caused by Jar Jar Binks. Yes under a fair fight, Sidious is superior than Jar Jar Bink in every shape and form, My point is that even a Superior character can lose to an inferior character under the right situation. Yes I do find it funny that a villain sue losing to a non garty/mary sue character.

Are you trying to kill me with laughter?

[DeathScepter]

Are you trying to kill me with laughter?

 

 

yes i am. my mind is a weird place a very weird place. sometimes it is funny, weird or confusing, sometimes all three at the same moment.

[Nerevar-as]

Have a look at that robot chicken sketch, Jar Jar did get Sidious killed.

[mybudgee]

 My point is that even a Superior character can lose to an inferior character under the right situation.