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I wonder how similar the characters will be in ep. 7 to the novels (which never happened)

 

I'm sure there'll be a few very similar types, i.e. a young hot-headed troublemaker, a likeable villain-in-training, a grizzled war veteran, a comic-relief person/droid, a love-interest, an irredeemable baddie, etc.


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Maul being sliced in half, falling down a 700 meter shaft, and somehow managed to "crawl" off an enemy planet and escape, with no medical aid, isn't "handled extremely well". Not when the only explanation for it given is "he had a lot of hatred in him". That is rotten writing.

 

Maul surviving through his sheer hatred is poetic. It reflects the Sith's hatred for death. Adds to Vader's "insignificant to the power of the Force" quote in Episode IV. And his character arc was handled splendidly (I would recommend the sequel comics). What's rotten is Maul being killed off and then having the rest of the PT being saddled with a villain (Tyranus) that lacks the same aura that Maul did before dying at the beginning of Episode III. Nah, I can live with Maul escaping via air-vent or what have you. It's one of the better arcs of TCW. And Rebels is proving to be an admirable successor to that show. 

 

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A new teaser poster and trailer for Star Wars: The Force Awakens might be shown at Celebration Anaheim 2015 (this year's annual Star Wars fest). 

 

Here you go: http://www.theforce...._Tap_163514.asp

 

For the record, according to MakingStarWars, the next trailer will be like this:

 

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Source: http://makingstarwar...awakens-teaser/

 

Also, what is suppose to be the final design of Kylo Ren's helmet is has also been leaked:

 

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Source: http://makingstarwar...ok-at-kylo-ren/


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Maul surviving through his sheer hatred is poetic. It reflects the Sith's hatred for death. Adds to Vader's "insignificant to the power of the Force" quote in Episode IV. And his character arc was handled splendidly (I would recommend the sequel comics). What's rotten is Maul being killed off and then having the rest of the PT being saddled with a villain (Tyranus) that lacks the same aura that Maul did before dying at the beginning of Episode III. Nah, I can live with Maul escaping via air-vent or what have you. It's one of the better arcs of TCW. And Rebels is proving to be an admirable successor to that show. 

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I disagree. Tyranus/Dooku was a better, more developed character than Maul and the trilogy was hardly "saddled" by him, as he was not in ep. 1 and had a glorified cameo in ep.3. Dooku was a Jedi and aristocrat, so by default had both more at stake and more experience in both the clone wars and the inevitable Jedi purge. Despite his martial arts prowess, which I am still in awe of (see: the G.I. joe flicks), Ray Park is not even close to the actor that Christopher Lee is. Even considering Lucas' ham-fisted direction, Lee plays this part with subtlety and panache, both of which were sadly out of the equation in the Maul character. I understand that he is an "attack-dog", a sith bestial force of nature. However, by sci-fi/fantasy film standards, he is a two-dimensional character at best. To be a great, memorable villain, one must be likeable on some level, complex and a tiny bit sympathetic. (Darth Vader, Hannibal Lecter, Loki, Hamlet, etc.) Maul is none of these things. Also, to survive grievous wounds, such as being SEVERED in two or being burned over 80% of your body requires a very powerful connection to the force, or decades of intense introspective training. Which, again, Maul lacked. He is a cool Sith, one of my favorites, but he, as many of the characters in the "Clone Wars" series was written into a silly, nickelodeon version of what we knew.


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I disagree. Tyranus/Dooku was a better, more developed character than Maul and the trilogy was hardly "saddled" by him, as he was not in ep. 1 and had a glorified cameo in ep.3. Dooku was a Jedi and aristocrat, so by default had both more at stake and more experience in both the clone wars and the inevitable Jedi purge. Despite his martial arts prowess, which I am still in awe of (see: the G.I. joe flicks), Ray Park is not even close to the actor that Christopher Lee is. Even considering Lucas' ham-fisted direction, Lee plays this part with subtlety and panache, both of which were sadly out of the equation in the Maul character. I understand that he is an "attack-dog", a sith bestial force of nature. However, by sci-fi/fantasy film standards, he is a two-dimensional character at best. To be a great, memorable villain, one must be likeable on some level, complex and a tiny bit sympathetic. (Darth Vader, Hannibal Lecter, Loki, Hamlet, etc.) Maul is none of these things. Also, to survive grievous wounds, such as being SEVERED in two or being burned over 80% of your body requires a very powerful connection to the force, or decades of intense introspective training. Which, again, Maul lacked. He is a cool Sith, one of my favorites, but he, as many of the characters in the "Clone Wars" series was written into a silly, nickelodeon version of what we knew.

 

Dooks never had the dark presence that Vader and Maul had. I still recall how out of place he looked during his speeder scene in Episode II. Dooks was never that well-developed to begin with either. Yes, he's very upper-class, I get that, but Palpatine could be aristocratic and actually come off as a Magnificent Bastard. And his lightsaber scenes didn't hold the same fire that the lightsaber duel between Maul and Team Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan had. Maul's character was elaborated more in TCW. Perhaps that's a testament to TCW being what the prequels overall should have been. And as for his survival, it's not a matter of "training," it's a matter of sheer maddening anger and refusal, something that plays well to the Star Wars mythos. As far as I'm concerned, Anakin certainly didn't read any manual on surviving his entire body getting fried. And I would hate for Maul's entire return to get bogged down by his survival. If you like Dooku, fine. To each his own. But his character in the prequels definitely isn't my cup of tea.



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didn't hold the same fire that the lightsaber duel between Maul and Team Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan had. Maul's character was elaborated more in TCW. Perhaps that's a testament to TCW being what the prequels overall should have been. 

Touche

 

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 Maul's character was elaborated more in TCW. Perhaps that's a testament to TCW being what the prequels overall should have been. 

 

Meh, Maul served his purpose in the prequels which was to show the Jedi that the Sith were back.


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Meh, Maul served his purpose in the prequels which was to show the Jedi that the Sith were back.

 

Maul could serve other purposes. Like, say, restoring Mandalore to its warrior culture or engaging characters like Obi-Wan in some intense character arcs. Him dying in TPM is potential wasted.

 

Touche

 

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Right back to you, good sir.

 

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But yeah, TCW was more Star Wars than the prequels as far as I'm concerned.

 

Anyway, moving on...

 

Star Wars Battlefront will apparently tie into Star Wars Episode 7, at least partly.

 

  • There will be some segments of the campaign which take place between Return of the Jediand The Force Awakens. There won’t be a lot because in their words “Lucasfilm has a lot of plans for that era.”
  • The last section of the campaign takes place before and during the opening segments of The Force Awakens. Don’t expect anything too revealing, because the game is expected to ship about a month before the movie releases.
  • At one point either during either the portion between episodes 6 and 7 or the portion from the beginning of The Force Awakens a character with the last name Tarkin appears.

 

Source: http://www.liveforfi...-force-awakens/

 

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Maul could serve other purposes. Like, say, restoring Mandalore to its warrior culture or engaging characters like Obi-Wan in some intense character arcs. Him dying in TPM is potential wasted.

 

 

 

 

Well, personally that would just detract from the story rather than add to it. Maul had his purpose and he did it well.



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Well, personally that would just detract from the story rather than add to it. Maul had his purpose and he did it well.

Personally, I felt they could have gotten more use out of him (Though not at the expense of Lee as Dooku). I thought they should bring him back (Not cut in half in this scenario) as a cyborg, a sort of proto-Vader, having fallen out of his master's good graces, no longer a proper Sith, and become more of a pawn. At that point, his character basically becomes General Grievous in my scenario.

That's what I would have liked.
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Personally, I felt they could have gotten more use out of him (Though not at the expense of Lee as Dooku). I thought they should bring him back (Not cut in half in this scenario) as a cyborg, a sort of proto-Vader, having fallen out of his master's good graces, no longer a proper Sith, and become more of a pawn. At that point, his character basically becomes General Grievous in my scenario.

That's what I would have liked.

Uh... IMO we got more than enough Grievous in ep. 3. No, thank you.


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Uh... IMO we got more than enough Grievous in ep. 3. No, thank you.

A better grievous :P

Point being that he would have been a public face of the separatist armies, given the Jedi further reason to focus their attention away from the Chancellor.

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Personally, I felt they could have gotten more use out of him (Though not at the expense of Lee as Dooku). I thought they should bring him back (Not cut in half in this scenario) as a cyborg, a sort of proto-Vader, having fallen out of his master's good graces, no longer a proper Sith, and become more of a pawn. At that point, his character basically becomes General Grievous in my scenario.

That's what I would have liked.

When I had read (and seen photos of) about Grievous before episode 3 released, I had ironically assumed that he and Maul were the same individual. 



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When I had read (and seen photos of) about Grievous before episode 3 released, I had ironically assumed that he and Maul were the same individual. 

Yeah ... the Kahleesh version of Grievous before his near-death was pretty cool



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Anyway, moving on...

 

Star Wars Battlefront will apparently tie into Star Wars Episode 7, at least partly.

 

  • There will be some segments of the campaign which take place between Return of the Jediand The Force Awakens. There won’t be a lot because in their words “Lucasfilm has a lot of plans for that era.”
  • The last section of the campaign takes place before and during the opening segments of The Force Awakens. Don’t expect anything too revealing, because the game is expected to ship about a month before the movie releases.
  • At one point either during either the portion between episodes 6 and 7 or the portion from the beginning of The Force Awakens a character with the last name Tarkin appears.

 

Source: http://www.liveforfi...-force-awakens/

 

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I imagine there's going to be a number of DLC's regarding the whole Force Awakens era for the game.



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I imagine there's going to be a number of DLC's regarding the whole Force Awakens era for the game.

EA has stated that they "will have an aggressive DLC plan" for Battlefront. So absolutely, they know it'll sell like hotcakes. I almost guarantee you that they will do a Battlefront Premium release for the game a few months to a year after it comes out, I don't want to wait though, I've waited 10 years for a new Battlefront (and that's exactly what they are counting on). 



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EA has stated that they "will have an aggressive DLC plan" for Battlefront. So absolutely, they know it'll sell like hotcakes. I almost guarantee you that they will do a Battlefront Premium release for the game a few months to a year after it comes out, I don't want to wait though, I've waited 10 years for a new Battlefront (and that's exactly what they are counting on). 

 

And knowing EA/DICE the game will be buggy to the point of being unplayable.  :P



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Can't wait to play the game though!



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EA has stated that they "will have an aggressive DLC plan" for Battlefront. So absolutely, they know it'll sell like hotcakes. I almost guarantee you that they will do a Battlefront Premium release for the game a few months to a year after it comes out, I don't want to wait though, I've waited 10 years for a new Battlefront (and that's exactly what they are counting on). 

I hope that they will learn from past gaming failures linked with movies & maybe make the ep. 7 stuff DLC at first. See how it's recieved, then maybe go full steam ahead. So very dumb to automatically make a game to go with each big budget movie. It almost always results in disaster



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I hope that they will learn from past gaming failures linked with movies & maybe make the ep. 7 stuff DLC at first. See how it's recieved, then maybe go full steam ahead. So very dumb to automatically make a game to go with each big budget movie. It almost always results in disaster

Not really related to your post other than having to do with Episode VII, but I'm actually surprised that there isn't a "Star Wars Episode VII: The Video Game" being made. I loved the Episode 3 video game back in the day, I expected that one would have been announced towards the beginning of this year. Maybe at E3? Every Star Wars film ever has had its own video game. 


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Not really related to your post other than having to do with Episode VII, but I'm actually surprised that there isn't a "Star Wars Episode VII: The Video Game" being made. I loved the Episode 3 video game back in the day, I expected that one would have been announced towards the beginning of this year. Maybe at E3? Every Star Wars film ever has had its own video game.


Haven't most movie-adaptation video games fallen by the wayside? THQ used to bet big on them, but that was one of the reasons the studio fell apart - the rights were super expensive and the games simply didn't sell all that well, so they lost money on almost every licensed game that they made in the last few years of the company's existence. Other such companies, like the Collective (the developers of the RotS game), have had a similar fate.

Nowadays, licensed direct-adaptation movie games have a reputation for schlock and low production values. Quality licensed products, like the Telltale games, the Arkham series, or Battlefront, tend to avoid slavishly reproducing film storylines in favor of giving gamers new experiences within the same universe.
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From Star Wars Celebration Anaheim:

 

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Battlefront 3 trailer drops tomorrow!

 

*crosses fingers*


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Battlefront 3 trailer drops tomorrow!

 

*crosses fingers*

 

Prepare to be disappointed.  :devil:



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Battlefront 3 trailer drops tomorrow!

 

*crosses fingers*

 

lol, prepare to get DICE'd bro. Nothing good comes from Frostbite. Nothing. 


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