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[9TailsFox]

Zetheria Tabris wrote...

Bioware could retcon it if they wanted. And there's no proof that Morrigan was killed in Witch Hunt. She could have just been injured.

Morrigan stabbing was well made from Bioware. If they want they can kill Morrigan if not we don't see Morrigan die.

[Sontemuka]

If we don't choose the OGB option, he doesn't exists, then the OGB cannot be the Antagonist. The idea of Morrigan having some children with other Grey Warden man is ridiculous, because after the Warden's rejection, she would leave the party to search other Grey Warden, convince him, and wait for another blight, of course. (That doesn't denies others Flemeth's daughters can do it)

Sandal could be talking about other Old God, some darkspawn (remember that Bodhan 'rescue' him from the deep roads), and maybe he establish connection with them. Asides, he doesn't have connection to the Fade (unless someone forces him), and he can do 'enchantment' (things that only Tranquil Mages do). So how does Flemeth to talk him?

Modifié par Sontemuka, 04 juillet 2013 - 07:35 .

[Maclimes]

Although Bioware COULD of course retcon him in if they wanted to, they have said, over and over and over, that they will NOT.

David Gaider has been pretty adamant that if your Warden did not allow Morrigan to perform her ritual, then there IS NO OLD GOD BABY.

Also, as for him being a protag: Terrible idea. Even if it was retconned that he exists, he's still a MALE, which is very limiting. And he's 10 years old. So, there's that.

[Wolfva2]

Didn't they say Witch Hunt wasn't cannon?

[Wolfva2]

Zetheria Tabris wrote...

Wolfva2 wrote...

And was that Varric in the begining?

That was indeed Varric. They covered his chest hair.

Who's head was he carressing with such pain in his eyes?  Could it have been.....Hawke?

[Zetheria Tabris]

Wolfva2 wrote...

Who's head was he carressing with such pain in his eyes?  Could it have been.....Hawke?

Oh man, I hope so. I can't stand Hawke. <_<

[Wolfva2]

I actually liked Hawke, but I think it'd be hilarious if the game starts out with (NPC)people thinking he's going to save the day, and he's killed right at the start. I'm sure this has happened, but has there ever been a game sequel which killed off the player's previous character? My mind is drawing a blank.

[Alex109222]

Where did they say witch hunt wasn't canon?
Also any ideas on the "gift" morrigan left the warden at the end?

[The Six Path of Pain]

You know as much as I hate DLC companions, and I do very much, I think the OGB would be a perfect candidate for one in a future DA game. People who performed the ritual could download him and have a very interesting and, more than likely, very powerful companion.People who didn't perform the ritual wouldn't have to worry about downloading him, since he wouldn't exist in their game anyway.

Modifié par The Six Path of Pain, 04 juillet 2013 - 08:35 .

[Savber100]

Is it just me but it seems like the Old God Baby issue is going to be the "big controversy" of DA:I just as the ending was ME3 and the reused environment was DA2.

Maybe I'm overexaggerating but I won't underestimate this fanbase or Bioware's rather crappy depiction of player's choices. 

Modifié par Savber100, 04 juillet 2013 - 08:35 .

[Zetheria Tabris]

The Six Path of Pain wrote...

You know as much as I hate DLC companions, and I do very much, I think the OGB would be a perfect candidate for one in a future DA game. People who performed the ritual could download him and have a very interesting and, more than likely, very powerful companion.People who didn't perform the ritual wouldn't have to worry about downloading him, since he wouldn't exist in their game anyway.

That would be a long DLC. There should be a big story behind that. And it'd have to be in a game after Inquisition, since he's just a child.

It also may break immersion, since everyone's Warden looks different and were different races. All of my Wardens are brown-skinned, so logic dictates that the OGB in my playthrough should have a little color to his skin. I know they could just make the child look like Morrigan, but if his father is dwarven, he would be a halfling. I wonder how he would look.

Wolfva2 wrote...

I actually liked Hawke, but I think it'd
be hilarious if the game starts out with (NPC)people thinking he's going
to save the day, and he's killed right at the start. I'm sure this has
happened, but has there ever been a game sequel which killed off the
player's previous character? My mind is drawing a blank.

I think it would be damn hilarious if that were to happen. But it probably won't. The only game I can think of is Prototype 2, where the goal is to kill the first game's protagonist. Whether you succeed or not, I don't know.

Savber100 wrote...

Is it just me but it seems like the Old
God Baby issue is going to be the "big controversy" of DA:I just as the
ending was ME3 and the reused environment was DA2.

Maybe I'm overexaggerating but I won't underestimate this fanbase or Bioware's rather crappy depiction of player's choices. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/bandit.png[/smilie]

Like I said, I honestly don't put it past Bioware to make the OGB canon. Ever since DA2 they've been finding ways to upset their fanbase and cause controversy and mayhem among the forums. Personally I wouldn't be upset if they did make it canon. I'm itching to see that story line, and I almost always choose the Dark Ritual. I would definitely understand the people who didn't make that choice, however, and got mad at Bioware.

And the reused environments were the main reason why people hated DA2? That's one of my reasons too, but I wouldn't consider it the main one.

[The Six Path of Pain]

[quote]The Six Path of Pain wrote...

[quote]Zetheria Tabris wrote...

[quote]The Six Path of Pain wrote...

You know as much as I hate DLC companions, and I do very much, I think the OGB would be a perfect candidate for one in a future DA game. People who performed the ritual could download him and have a very interesting and, more than likely, very powerful companion.People who didn't perform the ritual wouldn't have to worry about downloading him, since he wouldn't exist in their game anyway.[/quote]

That would be a long DLC. There should be a big story behind that. And it'd have to be in a game after Inquisition, since he's just a child.

It also may break immersion, since everyone's Warden looks different and were different races. All of my Wardens are brown-skinned, so logic dictates that the OGB in my playthrough should have a little color to his skin. I know they could just make the child look like Morrigan, but if his father is dwarven, he would be a halfling. I wonder how he would look.

[/quote]Two words on the apperance...Character customization  But I see your point about the"there should be a big story part".

[dragondreamer]

 I actually woke up from a dream about the OGB.  Well, it wasn't really about the OGB, but when I was in that place between dreaming and waking, my brain plugged it into an OGB scenario.  It was interesting...

I'm not going to go into all of it, but for this part, you have to assume the OGB is the protagonist.  OGB as the protag wasn't the only one where everything worked, but I found it the most intriguing because of the additional dynamics.

The scenario is that you're near the end of the game, and you have to choose between siding with Flemeth or Morrigan.

Morrigan is your mother, and you've learned she's been grooming you for this moment all your life.  You're the only one who can kill Flemeth for good, and ensure that the Old Gods will never meddle with the world again.  This is the only way to save the world, but it will cost your own life.  However, you've also learned that you have the soul of an Old God, and you might not be sure this is what you really want.  You may also resent your mother for planning to sacrifice you all along.

Flemeth, aka Scary Grandma, is promising to restore you to godhood and all the power that comes with it, but only if you join her.  However, she plans to wipe out humanity and restore the world to the way it was in an earlier era, ruled by dragons and magic.  Considering you've been living your life as a human, you may not want this either.  Even if you've decided that humanity sucks (you've been given a multitude of reasons to come to his conclusion over the course of the game), you probably have friends and loved ones who would die.

Those are the two main choices, but it might not always result in simply "protag sacrifice" or "evil bastard scenario".  Once again, there might be a way to circumvent the sacrifice scenario, but someone else might have to be sacrificed as a proxy.  Maybe the OGB's father, maybe the Warden (which might be the father), maybe Morrigan, maybe a companion.  Maybe your LI.

If you join Flemeth, you may realize there's a catch to her offer.  Maybe she expects you to be her thrall.  Maybe she intends to possess you.  Then maybe you have a change of heart, or you intended to betray her all along once you got the power you wanted.  You now have the power to defeat Flemeth without sacrificing yourself, but you may have to leave Thedas forever.

Seeing as how the world isn't likely to actually end in DA3, I expect that Flemeth's plan would not come to pass.  Whether she dies, or is imprisoned, or something else.  I could only see an genuine DESTROY THE WORLD! scenario in a standalone game.  You can shake up the status quo, but probably not too much.

Yeah.  That's my speculative fanfiction for today.  

[Secretlyapotato]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Anyone ever thought of how the OGB could actually be the Inquisitor?

If this is the case, I would at least like to be told ahead of time so that my Inquisitor doesn't look completely different from Alistair and Morrigan.

[Angrywolves]

No . The OGB is probably only around 10 years old. Can't be the Inquisitor or the evil in sandal's prophecy.
The tc is most likely wrong but he's entitled to his opinion.

[Nashimura]

Wolfva2 wrote...

I actually liked Hawke, but I think it'd be hilarious if the game starts out with (NPC)people thinking he's going to save the day, and he's killed right at the start. I'm sure this has happened, but has there ever been a game sequel which killed off the player's previous character? My mind is drawing a blank.

The very highly regarded "Godfather II" did exactly this, about 5 mins in.

Sontemuka wrote...
The idea of Morrigan having some children with other Grey Warden man is ridiculous, because after the Warden's rejection, she would leave the party to search other Grey Warden, convince him, and wait for another blight, of course.

Up... what about the grey warden right there with you?...The guy who made stopping the blight possible... the one and only... Riordan?

[TK514]

What Old God Baby? I wouldn't trust that misanthropic harpy with a normal kid, much less one with a dragon in it.

[TK514]

Wolfva2 wrote...

Zetheria Tabris wrote...

Wolfva2 wrote...

And was that Varric in the begining?

That was indeed Varric. They covered his chest hair.

Who's head was he carressing with such pain in his eyes?  Could it have been.....Hawke?

Only if Hawke shrunk nearly to the size of a child.

[Eternal Phoenix]

I was thinking the plot has more to do with a rift being torn in the fade. I mean we see all those monsters from the fade invading. For some reason I think we might even visit The Black City and learn some garbage about the darkspawn and mages. That's certainly a way to spice up the story even more and add a revelation that would far best the stuff learnt in Awakening.

Calling it now.

As others have said I'm hoping they haven't made the OGB cannon but it will be interesting to see what they do with it.

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 04 juillet 2013 - 03:39 .

[TK514]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

TK514 wrote...

Wolfva2 wrote...

Zetheria Tabris wrote...

Wolfva2 wrote...

And was that Varric in the begining?

That was indeed Varric. They covered his chest hair.

Who's head was he carressing with such pain in his eyes?  Could it have been.....Hawke?

Only if Hawke shrunk nearly to the size of a child.

Merril? We all know he has a spot for her and she's about the right size. Also she's likely to be at the center of the conflict a good deal of the time, being a mage, blood mage in fact,  and possibly parted from Hawke after DA2's events.

More likely we were just seeing his reaction to the large scale violence and that was a random corpse among many.

[Nightdragon8]

Savber100 wrote...

Is it just me but it seems like the Old God Baby issue is going to be the "big controversy" of DA:I just as the ending was ME3 and the reused environment was DA2.

Maybe I'm overexaggerating but I won't underestimate this fanbase or Bioware's rather crappy depiction of player's choices. 

.... no this would be comparable to the Rachni queen, where if you didn't save teh Rachni queen in ME1 you insted get a "reaper found" queen. pretty much the copy only with coniquinces