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[Dorrieb]

Zetheria Tabris wrote...
This is what Sandal told Hawke:

One day the magic will come back. All of it. Everyone will be just like they were. The shadows will part, and the skies will open wide. When he rises, everyone will see.

Why does that have to make him an antagonist? I'm personally okay with him rising and everyone seeing, shadows parting, and so on.

[Black Jimmy]

 It won't be forced canon

[valkulon]

I'm pretty sure if anyone was rising in the Fires from Above trailer it was the Inquisitor.

[FINE HERE]

OGB is not canon. This has been mentioned several times in several places.

[Mikoto8472]

Well, there's one solution to the Godbaby problem.

Make Morrigan's baby canon. A mage, and one of the Inquisitor's companions. That way with a little tweaking and care it could be played both ways.

If you didn't do the Dark Ritual, then he is simply a normal mage that happens to be Morrigan's son. She conceived him elsewhere. Perhaps from some other poor sod she manipulated. Perhaps by accident. Who knows? There's a story in it for sure.

If you did do the Dark Ritual then he is the Warden/Alistair/Loghain's son and he does have the soul of the Old God. As a result he has some extra spells/powers/traits/whatever to reflect it. And of course the dialogue choices around him also reflect it.

Either way, he looks just like Morrigan so it mostly solves the problem of what the Warden looked like.

That way, most people should be happy and get what they want from their choice. Me personally, I made seven Wardens. (One from each Origin plus another Magi Warden. One Surana and one Amell.) Only two were male and only those two did the Ritual. All the others were female and fed Loghain to the Archdemon. Thus I kinda consider a female Warden who had Loghain sacrifice himself my personal 'canon.'

[MadCat221]

I think "He" is referring to The Maker.

We all see just how passive-aggressive the Maker really is. What if the truth is really horrible?

Also, "He" is referring to Fen'Harel. After Fen'Harel duped the other two groups of elven gods (as per Merrill's tale about him), he remakes theology to his purpose and styles himself "The Maker".

Just tossing a few hypotheses out there.

Modifié par MadCat221, 04 juillet 2013 - 07:50 .

[Eveangaline]

"He" could be the maker, an old god that hasn't been tainted and lies in the deep, or someone we don't know about yet.

The Old God Baby is not canon.

[Argahawk]

But can't forget about scenario when warden join Morrigan and goes with her through the Eluvian to be with her and child.

Players who did it (as me) would like to hear/see something more about OGB father (or mother is you used Equal Love mod).

I would like to hear story about warden or how warden is killed in front of Morrigan to make her more angry because she liked to say "love is a weakness" so it could fit to story.


but i really hope that inquisitor will be able to join her side somewhere in the story and be able to romance with her

Ps. its just me or Varric is somewhere in Antiva ? as that flas near him is identical to Antivan heraldry flag

Modifié par Argahawk, 04 juillet 2013 - 08:34 .

[ames4u]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

TK514 wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Merril? We all know he has a spot for her and she's about the right size. Also she's likely to be at the center of the conflict a good deal of the time, being a mage, blood mage in fact,  and possibly parted from Hawke after DA2's events.

More likely we were just seeing his reaction to the large scale violence and that was a random corpse among many.

Logic?

Go away with your filthy abominational arguments. There is no room for logic. WE NEED MOAR SPECULATION!!!!


Merril cutscene death semi-confirmed

That signature....is GLORIOUS!! 

Merrill deathscene semi-confirmed? I demand proof good sir!  (or link or quote)

On a sidenote, the OGB is not canon apparently.

Modifié par ames4u, 04 juillet 2013 - 09:28 .

[Gorguz]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Yes, he was. And even if you killed him, there are potential disciples of his still around. Which is most annoying.

It has been speculated that the architect is an old magistrate like corypheus. Probably he is still alive.

[Zetheria Tabris]

Dorrieb wrote...

Why does that have to make him an antagonist? I'm personally okay with him rising and everyone seeing, shadows parting, and so on.

It just sounds like it refers to an antagonist, or a great evil. Usually when something "rises" it's an evil that's been awakened. Shadows parting does not sound like a good thing, either.

[TexasToast712]

 Based on the DAI trailer I assumed he is talking about the Inquisitor rising at the end.

[Heimdall]

Barring unnatural growth, need I mention that the OGB will be only ten years old in DAI?

[TexasToast712]

FINE HERE wrote...

OGB is not canon. This has been mentioned several times in several places.

I have seen this statement so many times I cant hold my tongue any longer. The OGB is canon. IF you participated in creating him. The way people say it all the time makes others think it is irrelevant wether you have the OGB or not.

[Angrywolves]

I think at some point people with OGB will get dlc or some content to deal with him. He's only 10 and isn't the villain .The villain is more likely Corpheus and the Original Tevinter mages or whatever made the golden city corrupt.

[dragondreamer]

 Maybe the eluvian leads to Narnia.  

[Zetheria Tabris]

TexasToast712 wrote...

I have seen this statement so many times I cant hold my tongue any longer. The OGB is canon. IF you participated in creating him. The way people say it all the time makes others think it is irrelevant wether you have the OGB or not.

Someone's on my side here. I'm pretty sure if he won't be in the main game, he'll be in DLC eventually.

Lord Aesir wrote...

Barring unnatural growth, need I mention that the OGB will be only ten years old in DAI?

Maybe DAI will go over a course of years like DA2 did?

[Secretlyapotato]

Lord Aesir wrote...

Barring unnatural growth, need I mention that the OGB will be only ten years old in DAI?

Angrywolves wrote...

No . The OGB is probably only around 10 years old. Can't be the Inquisitor or the evil in sandal's prophecy.
The tc is most likely wrong but he's entitled to his opinion.

You are implying that 10 year olds in Dragon Age cannot be evil demon people who must be slain. :3

Modifié par Secretlyapotato, 05 juillet 2013 - 12:00 .

[Baelyn]

TexasToast712 wrote...

FINE HERE wrote...

OGB is not canon. This has been mentioned several times in several places.

I have seen this statement so many times I cant hold my tongue any longer. The OGB is canon. IF you participated in creating him. The way people say it all the time makes others think it is irrelevant wether you have the OGB or not.

Exactly. This is taken from Gaider's blog concerning bringing Lelianna back:

Fan: “So you’re just ignoring my decision and bringing her back to life?"
Me: “It’s not ignored. It happened. That decision just didn’t have the result you expected."
Fan: “Well, I expected her to be dead!"
Me: “And yet."
Fan: “So you just get to decide what life and death means??"
Me: “Yes. That is, in fact, my job."
Fan: “How arrogant!!"

People just assume that because they decided something in the game, then it must equal what they assumed the result would be. They assumed that if they refused Morrigan's ritual that the OGB would never exist in any capacity. That is simply not true. People need to realize that as much choice is given us in these games, it doesn't make us God. Just like in real life when you make decisions you have no control over their consequences. You cannot determine what happens after the fact and out of your control. All you can decide is what you do. The same goes in these games. Ultimately it is the storytellers who decide what happens, not you as a player. They only give you choice in so much as an actual single person would have.

Modifié par Baelyn, 05 juillet 2013 - 02:12 .

[FINE HERE]

TexasToast712 wrote...

FINE HERE wrote...

OGB is not canon. This has been mentioned several times in several places.

I have seen this statement so many times I cant hold my tongue any longer. The OGB is canon. IF you participated in creating him. The way people say it all the time makes others think it is irrelevant wether you have the OGB or not.

Well, that's what I meant. It's not canon for everyone, just those who went through with it. I probably should have worded it better.

[In Exile]

Baelyn wrote...
They assumed that if they refused Morrigan's ritual that the OGB would never exist in any capacity.

People assume that because DG outright say that. 

[Eveangaline]

TexasToast712 wrote...

FINE HERE wrote...

OGB is not canon. This has been mentioned several times in several places.

I have seen this statement so many times I cant hold my tongue any longer. The OGB is canon. IF you participated in creating him. The way people say it all the time makes others think it is irrelevant wether you have the OGB or not.

The people saying that mean he's not an objective canon. Obviously he exists if you made him.

[Baelyn]

In Exile wrote...

Baelyn wrote...
They assumed that if they refused Morrigan's ritual that the OGB would never exist in any capacity.

People assume that because DG outright say that. 

I'm pretty sure he referred to the Warden's child not existing. That is, not to say that an Old God would never inhabit a child's body.

[In Exile]

Baelyn wrote...
I'm pretty sure he referred to the Warden's child not existing. That is, not to say that an Old God would never inhabit a child's body.

I'm pretty sure he called it the "OGB", and it would be a retcon if it does exist since only Alistair and the Warden could perform the ritual, not Riordan, and they can't die if it's done. 

[Eveangaline]

Baelyn wrote...

In Exile wrote...

Baelyn wrote...
They assumed that if they refused Morrigan's ritual that the OGB would never exist in any capacity.

People assume that because DG outright say that. 

I'm pretty sure he referred to the Warden's child not existing. That is, not to say that an Old God would never inhabit a child's body.

Since there hasn't been a blight since then, and that old gods soul gets destroyed if you didn't do the ritual, it at least hasn't happened yet.