and incorporate that type of cover system that was utilized in Tomb Raider (2013). The game felt so natural and fluid. No need to cling magnetically to objects. Lara would instantly take cover when danger is near and etc.
If anything that Bioware has to improve is that age old mechanic of cover system. Let's face it that cover system was utilized in Gears of War and continued in many other third person shooters. But what Tomb Raider did was damn amazing. Mass Effect desperately needs this mechanic in the next sequel.
Bioware needs to take notes from Crystal Dynamics...
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Posté 04 juillet 2013 - 02:54
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The problem I had with that cover system (if I am remembering correctly) is that if I got too close to the cover I would automatically snap to it, just like in Mass Effect 3 if I was running and got too close.
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Posté 04 juillet 2013 - 03:33
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Sanunes wrote...
The problem I had with that cover system (if I am remembering correctly) is that if I got too close to the cover I would automatically snap to it, just like in Mass Effect 3 if I was running and got too close.
But that's what TR cover system got fixed:
Liara doesn't stick to a wall like in Mass Effect, Ghost Recon or Gears, she merely crouches, you can move freely.
And after playing a lot of ME3's MP, I'm sure this style is better for ME's gameplay: In higher dificulties, things can get too fast and complicated, but you can't rely on cover because it's too clunky, making it easier for your enemies to overwhelm you.
Of course you can use "soft cover" but it's not completely perfect, you can only do it from one side because of the camera.
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Posté 04 juillet 2013 - 03:54
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Socom, even back in 2002 had it right from the start; crouch/stand (also prone) positions and the ability to lean out of or around cover. No magnet sticking.
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Posté 04 juillet 2013 - 08:39
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Having played the Tomb Raider multiplayer... NO. The cover system is too funky in TR. Mass Effect is just tolerable.
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Posté 07 juillet 2013 - 06:07
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The Last of Us cover and stealth mechanics is the best I ever seen. Really nice reference for future BioWare games.
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Posté 07 juillet 2013 - 10:19
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Seival wrote...
The Last of Us cover and stealth mechanics is the best I ever seen. Really nice reference for future BioWare games.
This. The Last of Us' use of cover and stealth was expertly handled.
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Posté 08 juillet 2013 - 04:05
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Technically they don't because it's better to just exploit the right-hand advantage on corners, I've literally never used hardcover after my first play through.
I hope Bioware make this horrible mistake in the next game so I can exploit it more, maybe this time from the left-hand side aswell.
I hope Bioware make this horrible mistake in the next game so I can exploit it more, maybe this time from the left-hand side aswell.
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Posté 08 juillet 2013 - 04:15
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Ghost Recon: Future Soldier had the best cover mechanics I've ever played. Especially how you can enter cover while in front of an object - the character flips backwards or sideways into the cover. It was very fluid.
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Posté 08 juillet 2013 - 05:29
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Savber100 wrote...
Having played the Tomb Raider multiplayer... NO. The cover system is too funky in TR. Mass Effect is just tolerable.
Since we are necroing; the MP in Tomb Raider did not have a "cover system". You could use "soft cover" just like in ME3 but there was no "hard cover" or even a cover stance like the SP. The MP in Tomb Raider just felt lazy and incomplete to me.
I really enjoyed the SP in Tomb Raider and while I was a little wary of the cover system from what I had heard, it turned out to be quite nice actually. Lara was pretty fragile and could not take that many hits before going down but she was extremely agile. The cover system played into this where she would automatically take cover, but was not stuck to the wall or tree or w/e. She could free run or dodge away as needed.
I'm still undecided though as whether or not I like this system better than the more traditional system ME uses. The ME3 MP feels very different from the SP in regards to combat. During the SP most battles take place in a linear manner; the enemies are always in front of you. In the MP, it is an arena so the enemies can come from any direction. In SP this allowed you to stick to hard cover and not really have to move while in the MP you have to remain on the move to avoid being flanked.
The Tomb Raider system would feel more at home in the MP, but then again soft cover isn't too hard to use and hard cover has the added stabilty and accuracy bonuses as well. So I'm still undecided as to which I prefer.
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Posté 08 juillet 2013 - 05:33
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Guglio08 wrote...
Ghost Recon: Future Soldier had the best cover mechanics I've ever played. Especially how you can enter cover while in front of an object - the character flips backwards or sideways into the cover. It was very fluid.
Yeah I was very pleased with the cover mechanics in Future Soldier. The one thing I wish other games would take from it is the cover switching mechanic; it was awesome to rush from spot to spot even when they were a good distance away.
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Posté 08 juillet 2013 - 03:24
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The confusing trend I am seeing in this thread is the amount of games that have "a cover system the next Mass Effect game should have", right now I see three Tomb Raider, The Last of Us, and Ghost Recon: Future Soldier. So which one should BioWare copy?
