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I just replayed DAO and not taking Morrigan's  offer or  choosing to give morrigan anything she wanted taking Flemeth's book for your self.   I was wanting a DEV  to way in on the Warden Ultimate Sacrifice and Morrigan choosing to join the court in Orlasis without getting a demon-spawn baby. How will that change the cannon or will Morrigan always be able to portal to the fade in witch hunt no matter the wardens choice made??

Modifié par stonemyst, 03 décembre 2013 - 10:56 .


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Nightdragon8

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...... basicly you want spoilers for upcoming games, and DA:I.... .... which at this point would be considered leaks considering the game is still at least 6 months away.... this is what ou are asking right?

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The game is a year and a half way Nightdragon. Comes out on all platforms (current and next) winter 2014.

Apparently Gaider has repeatedly said that if The Warden/Alistair didn't sleep with Morrigan then the OGB doesn't exist.

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Yup he clearly said it.

The team chose to ignore SOME choices but those were extremely small ones like killing Leiliana (not that the action is small but that a very very veeeeery small percentage of players ever did it)

Wereas making the OGB canon for everyone would screw a huge chunck of DA:O players who made the Ultimate Sacrifice that is something Gaider said they were absolutely NOT going to do.

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Elton John is dead wrote...

The game is a year and a half way Nightdragon. Comes out on all platforms (current and next) winter 2014.

Apparently Gaider has repeatedly said that if The Warden/Alistair didn't sleep with Morrigan then the OGB doesn't exist.


I said, "at least" wait when did the date get pushed back to 2015??  cuase a year and a half away = 2015-2016...  7+6months = 13 so 2014 + 1 year = 2015....  ah not 2016

.... and agian, he is asking for spoilers, he is asking, what will the story be like for those who did not have the OGC.... 'spoilers' no matter how you think you can call it, its still spoilers...

Modifié par Nightdragon8, 04 juillet 2013 - 04:13 .


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Only Qunari have cannon.

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Nightdragon8 wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

The game is a year and a half way Nightdragon. Comes out on all platforms (current and next) winter 2014.

Apparently Gaider has repeatedly said that if The Warden/Alistair didn't sleep with Morrigan then the OGB doesn't exist.


I said, "at least" wait when did the date get pushed back to 2015??  cuase a year and a half away = 2015-2016...  7+6months = 13 so 2014 + 1 year = 2015....  ah not 2016

.... and agian, he is asking for spoilers, he is asking, what will the story be like for those who did not have the OGC.... 'spoilers' no matter how you think you can call it, its still spoilers...


on the trailer it says FALL 2014 witch means its a year and a half away from NOW till then

Modifié par ag99, 04 juillet 2013 - 04:43 .


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I suppose it's possible that someday those of us who have OGB will have a dlc or additional content. Not in DAI though.

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ag99 wrote...

Nightdragon8 wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

The game is a year and a half way Nightdragon. Comes out on all platforms (current and next) winter 2014.

Apparently Gaider has repeatedly said that if The Warden/Alistair didn't sleep with Morrigan then the OGB doesn't exist.


I said, "at least" wait when did the date get pushed back to 2015??  cuase a year and a half away = 2015-2016...  7+6months = 13 so 2014 + 1 year = 2015....  ah not 2016

.... and agian, he is asking for spoilers, he is asking, what will the story be like for those who did not have the OGC.... 'spoilers' no matter how you think you can call it, its still spoilers...


on the trailer it says FALL 2014 witch means its a year and a half away from NOW till then


.... the time of the trailer on month number 6, there is only 12 months in a year, so 6+6 = 12, so 2013 is the year we are in, so we add 1 year because 6+6 = 12, so that will be 2014, then lets add your other year 2014+1 = 2015....


tell me how I am wrong plz, show me the maths

so what you really mean to say is "fall next year" not cause december is winter.... last i checked. ....

Edit: yea yea forgot fall ends december.... i'm sleep deprived...

but still the point is that he is asking for spoilers, the writers will do something, and if they have that much time, asking for spoillers now is honestly asking if Harry potter will kill voldmore in the second book... its just bad faux pas....

Modifié par Nightdragon8, 04 juillet 2013 - 04:53 .


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Catroi wrote...

Wereas making the OGB canon for everyone would screw a huge chunck of DA:O players who made the Ultimate Sacrifice that is something Gaider said they were absolutely NOT going to do.


Even more than that, it was also possible to have Alistair or Loghain deliver the final blow on the Archdemon - which kills them instead of the Warden.
Which means the Warden gets to live without having to do the OGB as well. One of my mages did it, poor Alistair. =/

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Nightdragon8 wrote...



.... the time of the trailer on month number 6, there is only 12 months in a year, so 6+6 = 12, so 2013 is the year we are in, so we add 1 year because 6+6 = 12, so that will be 2014, then lets add your other year 2014+1 = 2015....


tell me how I am wrong plz, show me the maths




from this month witch is JULY till the last month of  THIS YEAR (2013) witch is DECEMPER is 6 month left of THIS YEAR
when we enter the year of 2014  starting from JANUARY TILL SEPTEMBER  thats another extra 9 months

edit: personally i would  like to add september since that is the beggining of fall  witch it would make it less then a year and a half  but thats the thing  we  dont know  how far in fall they will release it tho so ppl just asume  late late fall  witch will be a year and a half)

Modifié par ag99, 04 juillet 2013 - 05:19 .


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I too would like to see force cannons. Cast iron barrels enchanted with highly potent repulsion magic.

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Nightdragon8 wrote...

...... basicly you want spoilers for upcoming games, and DA:I.... .... which at this point would be considered leaks considering the game is still at least 6 months away.... this is what ou are asking right?


is what I said, so basicly from January 2014 to september 3014 (and htats not a typo) I will still be correct....


also agian what does whent he game is realease have anything to do with him asking for spoilers....  the fact that it's "a year and a half away" asking for spoilers is still in bad taste, I dont care when the game comes out...

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stonemyst wrote...

I just replayed DAO and not taking Morrigan's  offer or  choosing to give morrigan anything she wanted taking Flemeth's book for your self.   I was wanting a DEV  to way in on the Warden Ultimate Sacrifice and Morrigan choosing to join the court in Orlasis without getting a demon-spawn baby. How will that change the cannon or will Morrigan always be able to portal to the fade in witch hunt no matter the wardens choice made??

For what it's worth, I don't think the OGB will be relevent in DA: I if no Warden's did the nasty with Morrigan. It won't be forced.

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If importing isn't an option, then they will either make human noble male warrior or human male mage(Amell) canon.

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Nefla wrote...

If importing isn't an option, then they will either make human noble male warrior or human male mage(Amell) canon.

I'm not sure about that. I get the sense that how they decide to set the canon of a past game doesn't seem to be nearly as dictated by the marketing gung-ho "must be straight-white-male" mantra.

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Filament wrote...

Nefla wrote...

If importing isn't an option, then they will either make human noble male warrior or human male mage(Amell) canon.

I'm not sure about that. I get the sense that how they decide to set the canon of a past game doesn't seem to be nearly as dictated by the marketing gung-ho "must be straight-white-male" mantra.


I'm not so sure about that.
The comic seems to suggest that at some point they were at least leaning towards the canon Warden being female.

Edit: On second thought, Morrigan might have been talking about Anora - I just assumed it was about the Warden when she asks Alistair "Do you love her?".

Modifié par Azaron Nightblade, 04 juillet 2013 - 07:53 .


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The comic specifically refers to the Warden as a "she" and to Alistair's romance because Aimo's canonical Warden is a lady Dwarf Noble who romanced Alistair. She's the one drawing it, so naturally she gets to use her own Warden as the unseen star.

The text above the comic suggests the scene was meant to give the player who romanced or be-friended Morrigan some insight into her personal struggles, so obviously they weren't planning to do it just one way.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 04 juillet 2013 - 08:10 .


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Given that the "choices that matter" generally result in a brief sidequest or a short encounter in the following game(s), I wouldn't spend too many sleepless nights on the OGB... or generally on canon...

Besides, if you/Alistair refuse the Ritual, there's always Riordan... we don't know if Morrigan went to Riordan afterwards, do we?

But here I am, doing Bioware's job of cannon repair.

Modifié par Marvin_Arnold, 04 juillet 2013 - 08:55 .


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I can live with most "choices" they will choose for us to make more interesting story in inquisition (as thay think) but please, i hope they will not resurrect Alistair from the grave.

And about Leliana ? she already appear in DA:2 so why not meat her again ?

Modifié par Argahawk, 04 juillet 2013 - 08:53 .


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Marvin_Arnold wrote...

Given that the "choices that matter" generally result in a brief sidequest or a short encounter in the following game(s), I wouldn't spend too many sleepless nights on the OGB... or generally on canon...

Besides, if you/Alistair refuse the Ritual, there's always Riordan... we don't know if Morrigan went to Riordan afterwards, do we?

But here I am, doing Bioware's job of cannon repair.


If a warden dies killing the archdemon then the ritual was not done. Stop making wild theories, this is data from the game, which supports the claim of the lead writer that the ritual will not be forced.

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It's Canon. You know like the camera.

Cannon is something that goes boom.

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Marvin_Arnold wrote...

Given that the "choices that matter" generally result in a brief sidequest or a short encounter in the following game(s), I wouldn't spend too many sleepless nights on the OGB... or generally on canon...

Besides, if you/Alistair refuse the Ritual, there's always Riordan... we don't know if Morrigan went to Riordan afterwards, do we?

But here I am, doing Bioware's job of cannon repair.




Morrigan says Riordan can`t be used for the ritual, since he has been tainted too long.

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Catroi wrote...
Wereas making the OGB canon for everyone would screw a huge chunck of DA:O players who made the Ultimate Sacrifice

Screw? I can understand people feeling narkey, my Warden bought it, but I chose the action, not the outcome, and surely it's weirder that the game never mention it again than somehow reintroduce the little tacker somewhere?

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i found it to be one of the more interesting choices in a game and am saddened its relegated to a import choice tbh, personally id a preferred the player not to have been giving the choice in this case just like i think giving the player the choice in Alistair's outcome was a mistake and the naming of the dwarven king was a mistake.

just my opinion is all