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stonemyst wrote...

I just replayed DAO and not taking Morrigan's  offer or  choosing to give morrigan anything she wanted taking Flemeth's book for your self.   I was wanting a DEV  to way in on the Warden Ultimate Sacrifice and Morrigan choosing to join the court in Orlasis without getting a demon-spawn baby. How will that change the cannon or will Morrigan always be able to portal to the fade in witch hunt no matter the wardens choice made??


1. Morrigan does not need the Warden to find the Eluvian, so she's always able to do that. A woman who looks like her was spotted in Orlais. That doesn't mean she has to live in Orlais for the rest of her life.


2. The old god child is not canon.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 04 juillet 2013 - 11:19 .


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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Only Qunari have cannon.


Maybe the cannon is for shooting holes in the canon. :D

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Bones of Elvis wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Only Qunari have cannon.


Maybe the cannon is for shooting holes in the canon. :D


A plothole cannon?

Does it have additional plotarmor penetration?


Dem Qunari are gonna f*ck up the Inquisition big time if they had such a thing. Imagine your Inquisitor killed by that cannon. No revert to last savegame, savegame deleted. Courtesy of Benn-Hassrath :devil:

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Bones of Elvis wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Only Qunari have cannon.


Maybe the cannon is for shooting holes in the canon. :D


A plothole cannon?

Does it have additional plotarmor penetration?

Dem Qunari are gonna f*ck up the Inquisition big time if they had such a thing. Imagine your Inquisitor killed by that cannon. No revert to last savegame, savegame deleted. Courtesy of Benn-Hassrath :devil:


The Cannon of Canon is no doubt enhanced by the Belt of the Artificer, (rapid aim and damage +10).

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Mykel54 wrote...

Marvin_Arnold wrote...

Given that the "choices that matter" generally result in a brief sidequest or a short encounter in the following game(s), I wouldn't spend too many sleepless nights on the OGB... or generally on canon...

Besides, if you/Alistair refuse the Ritual, there's always Riordan... we don't know if Morrigan went to Riordan afterwards, do we?

But here I am, doing Bioware's job of cannon repair.


If a warden dies killing the archdemon then the ritual was not done. Stop making wild theories, this is data from the game, which supports the claim of the lead writer that the ritual will not be forced.



It is a logical way for the OGB to be made canon even though Bioware have no intention of making OGB canon. Stop wailing like an enfant over someones opinion.
<_<

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Rawgrim wrote...

Marvin_Arnold wrote...

Given that the "choices that matter" generally result in a brief sidequest or a short encounter in the following game(s), I wouldn't spend too many sleepless nights on the OGB... or generally on canon...

Besides, if you/Alistair refuse the Ritual, there's always Riordan... we don't know if Morrigan went to Riordan afterwards, do we?

But here I am, doing Bioware's job of cannon repair.




Morrigan says Riordan can`t be used for the ritual, since he has been tainted too long.


She said he wasn't suitable not that he wasn't a viable option.

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krul2k wrote...

i found it to be one of the more interesting choices in a game and am saddened its relegated to a import choice tbh, personally id a preferred the player not to have been giving the choice in this case just like i think giving the player the choice in Alistair's outcome was a mistake and the naming of the dwarven king was a mistake.

just my opinion is all


To be honest, Bioware will probably relegate OGB to a brief cameo or a random mention somewhere. If they are going through with the 'OGB is not canon' comment, then I cannot see them pouring much effort into OGB at all even if it is imported from DAO.

Modifié par ames4u, 05 juillet 2013 - 12:13 .


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Those of us who did the ritual deserve dlc or something showing the fate of OGB.

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Ziggeh wrote...

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Wereas making the OGB canon for everyone would screw a huge chunck of DA:O players who made the Ultimate Sacrifice

Screw? I can understand people feeling narkey, my Warden bought it, but I chose the action, not the outcome, and surely it's weirder that the game never mention it again than somehow reintroduce the little tacker somewhere?


I wouldn't mind Morrigan always getting godbaby if my Warden gets rezzed from the dead. Morrigan had her godbaby with another warden that mine didn't know and my warden lives happily? Heck yeah.

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ames4u wrote...

krul2k wrote...

i found it to be one of the more interesting choices in a game and am saddened its relegated to a import choice tbh, personally id a preferred the player not to have been giving the choice in this case just like i think giving the player the choice in Alistair's outcome was a mistake and the naming of the dwarven king was a mistake.

just my opinion is all


To be honest, Bioware will probably relegate OGB to a brief cameo or a random mention somewhere. If they are going through with the 'OGB is not canon' comment, then I cannot see them pouring much effort into OGB at all even if it is imported from DAO.

Actually, they could make the OGB an optional companion if they so desire to which would be cool.  Of course it would be entirely dependent on your choices in previous games but that's what save game editors and can make same kind of Genesis program that ME2 and ME3 had for DA:I.

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ames4u wrote...

Mykel54 wrote...

Marvin_Arnold wrote...

Given that the "choices that matter" generally result in a brief sidequest or a short encounter in the following game(s), I wouldn't spend too many sleepless nights on the OGB... or generally on canon...

Besides, if you/Alistair refuse the Ritual, there's always Riordan... we don't know if Morrigan went to Riordan afterwards, do we?

But here I am, doing Bioware's job of cannon repair.


If a warden dies killing the archdemon then the ritual was not done. Stop making wild theories, this is data from the game, which supports the claim of the lead writer that the ritual will not be forced.



It is a logical way for the OGB to be made canon even though Bioware have no intention of making OGB canon. Stop wailing like an enfant over someones opinion.
<_<


How is it logical when morrigan says in game that she cannot do it with Riorden? 

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Eveangaline wrote...

ames4u wrote...

Mykel54 wrote...

Marvin_Arnold wrote...

Given that the "choices that matter" generally result in a brief sidequest or a short encounter in the following game(s), I wouldn't spend too many sleepless nights on the OGB... or generally on canon...

Besides, if you/Alistair refuse the Ritual, there's always Riordan... we don't know if Morrigan went to Riordan afterwards, do we?

But here I am, doing Bioware's job of cannon repair.


If a warden dies killing the archdemon then the ritual was not done. Stop making wild theories, this is data from the game, which supports the claim of the lead writer that the ritual will not be forced.



It is a logical way for the OGB to be made canon even though Bioware have no intention of making OGB canon. Stop wailing like an enfant over someones opinion.
<_<


How is it logical when morrigan says in game that she cannot do it with Riorden? 


Stop making things up, she doesn't say that.

Modifié par Marvin_Arnold, 08 juillet 2013 - 09:44 .


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Stop making things up, she doesn't say that.



No she actually does say it wouldn't work with Riordan. He's too old. The warden needs to have just recently undertaken the Joining for the ritual to work.

Anyway, I don't really care if they force a canon. Every single game with choices either establishes a canon or railroads you. And the comics and novels (not matter what BS Gaider says) are already the Dragon Age canon.

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Ryzaki wrote...

I wouldn't mind Morrigan always getting godbaby if my Warden gets rezzed from the dead. Morrigan had her godbaby with another warden that mine didn't know and my warden lives happily? Heck yeah. 

There's a really simple way to do it, and I'll metaphorically consume headgear if they don't go this route:

You make him special in some other way.

Say, Morrigan raises him in the fade, or something, and if he's the Warden's kid you say his powers are a combo of fade based youth and old god soul, and if he's not you say she stole a baby and got it's powers from the fade alone.

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He's being raised by some modest family in Orlais.
On occasion Aunt Morrigan stops by. He doesn't know he's her son
Dlc when appropriate for those of us who did the ritual .

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Marvin_Arnold wrote...

Eveangaline wrote...

ames4u wrote...

Mykel54 wrote...

Marvin_Arnold wrote...

Given that the "choices that matter" generally result in a brief sidequest or a short encounter in the following game(s), I wouldn't spend too many sleepless nights on the OGB... or generally on canon...

Besides, if you/Alistair refuse the Ritual, there's always Riordan... we don't know if Morrigan went to Riordan afterwards, do we?

But here I am, doing Bioware's job of cannon repair.


If a warden dies killing the archdemon then the ritual was not done. Stop making wild theories, this is data from the game, which supports the claim of the lead writer that the ritual will not be forced.



It is a logical way for the OGB to be made canon even though Bioware have no intention of making OGB canon. Stop wailing like an enfant over someones opinion.
<_<


How is it logical when morrigan says in game that she cannot do it with Riorden? 


Stop making things up, she doesn't say that.



She does actually say that. She has to use someone freshly tainted, and he's been tainted too long.

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Lol at people thinking Morrigan would sleep with Riordan.

She's a cougar.

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A cougar is an older woman who sleeps with a younger man, like in Courtney Cox's show You've got it backwards.
We should have been able to romance Wynne.
That would have been interesting.lol.

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Whether or not Riordan could make a OGB is irrelevant. If an OGB was made then no warden would die killing the Archdemon. If Alistair, Loghain or PC warden die killing the Archdemon then there is no OGB.

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Except for Stone Throne and The Calling, the other books and comics are not canon, so it doesn't matter if the comic says she or not.

Modifié par MrCorvin, 20 juillet 2013 - 02:18 .


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Gaider wrote it all. He can change his mind anytime.
Amazes me people think all of this is locked in stone.
I predict dlc for those of us who did the ritual.
People who refused to do the ritual won't have to buy it.
shrugs.

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Cyberbobmkii wrote...
Whether or not Riordan could make a OGB is irrelevant. If an OGB was made then no warden would die killing the Archdemon. If Alistair, Loghain or PC warden die killing the Archdemon then there is no OGB.

QFT.  Regardless of her lines or your interpretation thereof, if whoever struck the killing blow died the OGB didn't exist.  The entire point of it was to absorb the soul of the Old God (hence the name Old God Baby).  Personally, that was a major decision point in the game and I'd much, much rather the choice be maintained as canon.  Personally I almost never trusted Morrigan with that much power and finding her doing so anyway would really chap my hide.

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I don't want any cannons forced on me in the story unless its the qunari since they're all advanced and stuff

Modifié par LPPrince, 20 juillet 2013 - 05:46 .


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Well the the warden and Alistair were sleeping the night before the march on Denerim. Maybe she used entropy magic to keep the warden or Alistair asleep while she did her thing and impregnated herself.