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How many sexpartners is possible for Sheparad in one playthrough of ME1 followed by one playthrough of ME2 and ME3?
 For an example is it possible in ME1 to romance Ashley, dump her romance tali and then Liara and then contuine in ME2 to romance Tali and Liara?

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ME1:
Sha'ira
Ashley or Liara

ME2:
Casual sex with Jack
Pursue Miranda until Collector Ship
After Suicide Mission, dump Miranda and hook up with Tali
Dump Tali and get Kelly to dance for you

ME3:
Pursue Liara or Ashley (whichever one not romanced in ME1)
Hook up with Diana Allers


Citadel DLC adds some other possibilities, but I think this is the most possible in the vanilla games.  This plan was outlined in this previous thread of mine.

Modifié par billpickles, 04 juillet 2013 - 10:05 .


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By the way, for that ME2 plan to work, you have to do Jack's loyalty mission and get to the casual sex scene BEFORE doing Miranda's loyalty mission. I screwed that up when trying to execute this plan.

If you put Liara first in ME1, you can hook up with her again at the end of LOTSB without affecting the other ME2 romances.

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billpickles wrote...
ME3:
Pursue Liara or Ashley (whichever one not romanced in ME1)
Hook up with Diana Allera


So if I dont romance Liara in ME1 I can still romance her in ME3?

In order to romance Ashley must I only use paragon choices when I talk to her or is it possible to still choose renegade choices? 

Is it possible to add Kaidan to the romance list that you listed up? 

Modifié par Peterrrrr, 04 juillet 2013 - 09:47 .


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Only a FemShep can romance Kaiden in ME1. In ME3, I think a BroShep can (or at least there are YouTube videos of such...not sure if that was a bug/mod; never tried it personally), but that would exclude Ashley or Liara (or anyone else for that matter), as you can only have one true romance in ME3 (Allers doesn't count).

Liara can be romanced in ME3 even if you didn't romance her in ME1. The same is true of Ashley or Kaiden.

There are also some funny moments between characters if you have different romances in each game. For instance, Liara and Tali will have a nice moment when heading out for the Geth dreadnought if you have previously romanced each and are still stringing them both along. Liara is also the only character, to my knowledge, who will call you out on hooking up with Allers. I guess being the Shadow Broker means she can bug your cabin...!?!

Not sure on your Ashley question...are you refering to ME1 or ME3?  In ME1, you have to be careful.  You can try to romance Ashley and still end up going with Liara instead if you're not careful.  In either game, there are certain renegade responses that will negate a romance, while others are fine.  You might refer to the Mass Effect Wikia page for more info on that.

This thread has some info on avoiding romance in ME1, which might help you identify which responses will preclude a romance with Ashley or any other ME1 option.

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billpickles wrote...



There are also some funny moments between characters if you have different romances in each game. For instance, Liara and Tali will have a nice moment when heading out for the Geth dreadnought if you have previously romanced each and are still stringing them both along. Liara is also the only character, to my knowledge, who will call you out on hooking up with Allers. I guess being the Shadow Broker means she can bug your cabin...!?!




Is this moment possible if I romance Ashley in ME1 and Liara in ME3? Or do I need to romance Liara in ME1 to do that. If I romance Liara in ME1 I should also be able to add her to the list in ME2, or are any romanc exluded from your list if I also add Liara in ME2?

Also if I let Kelly Chambers dance for me in ME2 she also retunrs in ME3 if I am correct? Or is it only possbile to make her appear If I only stick to Kelly?

Modifié par Peterrrrr, 04 juillet 2013 - 10:13 .


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The highest number through the trilogy would be like this:

ME1:
Shiala the Consort (1)
Liara (2)*

ME2:
Invite Kelly up to cabin around midgame (3)
Simultaneously go through romance dialogue for Tali, Miranda, and Jack.
Lock in Miranda (4)
After Suicide Mission, dump Miranda and invite Kelly up to dance (4)**
Lock in Tali romance (5)
Break up with Tali and lock in Jack (6)***
Sleep with Liara after LotSB (6)*

ME3:
Get with Kelly before you lock in a romance (4)**
Get with Allers before you lock in a romance (7)
Complete romance with Jack after Grissom Academy (7)***
Romance and lock in Ash (8)

*For simple numbers of partners, it doesn't matter if you flip flop Ash and Liara, just you will get it on one less time in ME2
**IIRC as long as the save shows that you invited Kelly up to your cabin after the SM, it doesn't matter who was actually locked in at time of import in order to get with Kelly on the Citadel in a cargo container (romantic...)
***You can do the casual sex option with Jack as an alternative if you just care about number of partners. But if you have her locked in for your import, you can abuse the bug where you can still pursue another romance in ME3 (her lock in state doesn't work right, don't think they fixed that in a patch).

Citadel allows James or Javik for femshep... which allows her to catchup to manShep if you do Citadel before locking in an ME3 relationship.

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Didn't know about the Jack bug in ME3...interesting. Although for RP reasons, I think it makes more sense for HoShep to take Jack up on the casual sex offer, which would eliminate the ME3 option. And I forgot that hooking up in the cargo container with Kelly didn't preclude other ME3 romances. Still 8 total partners, but you double-down on a couple more. Thanks, capn...now I have to try my PimpShep over again from scratch (though I messed it up the first time anyway). Hmm...not sure if this is a blessing or a curse...?  Was planning a Renegade MaleShep Sentinel run next anyway, so I guess now I have a romance plan.

Is this moment possible if I romance Ashley in ME1 and Liara in ME3? Or do I need to romance Liara in ME1 to do that. If I romance Liara in ME1 I should also be able to add her to the list in ME2, or are any romanc exluded from your list if I also add Liara in ME2?


You'd have to have a preexisting Liara romance, which would require an ME1 start to the relationship, but this isn't the only possible moment like that.  I hear that Ashely will comment on various ME2 romances if she's in your party on certain ME3 missions, but I haven't tried that myself.

Adding Liara in LOTSB does not preclude any other ME2 romance options (though Liara may comment on them if they are already in progress).  She's "a very good information broker" as she continually reminds you.

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billpickles wrote...

She's "a very good information broker" as she continually reminds you.

Although apparently she just uses her power to stalk Shepard, and that is why her info is near useless in the war against the Reapers. ;)

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billpickles wrote...
You'd have to have a preexisting Liara romance, which would require an ME1 start to the relationship, but this isn't the only possible moment like that.  I hear that Ashely will comment on various ME2 romances if she's in your party on certain ME3 missions, but I haven't tried that myself.


In order to romance i Ashley in ME3, is it possible to use renegade options anawd being rude to her in ME1 and still romance her in ME3?

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Peterrrrr wrote...

In order to romance i Ashley in ME3, is it possible to use renegade options anawd being rude to her in ME1 and still romance her in ME3?

I am pretty sure the answer is yes.  All the ME1 LI's are romanceable in ME3 regardless of the previous games AFAIK.

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capn233 wrote...

Peterrrrr wrote...

In order to romance i Ashley in ME3, is it possible to use renegade options anawd being rude to her in ME1 and still romance her in ME3?

I am pretty sure the answer is yes.  All the ME1 LI's are romanceable in ME3 regardless of the previous games AFAIK.

AFAIK? 

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AFAIK = "as far as I know"

And I'll second the comment as well. You can be an outright ****hole to Ash in ME1 and still romance her in ME3.

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billpickles wrote...

AFAIK = "as far as I know"

And I'll second the comment as well. You can be an outright ****hole to Ash in ME1 and still romance her in ME3.

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Ok, thanks! :)

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capn233 wrote...

ME2:
Invite Kelly up to cabin around midgame (3)
Simultaneously go through romance dialogue for Tali, Miranda, and Jack.
Lock in Miranda (4)
After Suicide Mission, dump Miranda and invite Kelly up to dance (4)**
Lock in Tali romance (5)
Break up with Tali and lock in Jack (6)***
Sleep with Liara after LotSB (6)*


I have just started play ME2, wounder how I should act in a few dialogs. My ME1 import is 100% Paragon but for my ME2 he will turn 100% renegade as possible. But I need to know what I can do in renegade choices and not in order to romance as much characters as possible.

Here is what I have understand, please correct me if Im wrong:

Kelly
Paragon choice in order to romance her?

Miranda
As long as Im completeting her Loyality mission I can still be renegade in dialog and romance her?

Tali
What Renegade choices can I choose and still romnance her? WARNING, Im right now on Freedoms Progress, must I choose can I use renegade choices in our dialog when meeting her for the first time?

Jack
As long as I completing her loaylity mission I can act renegade?

Liara
Cant use no renegade in order to romance her in LOTSB?

Am I right or wrong? 


Also in ME3 I cant romance Ash beacuse my ME1 shepard let Kaidan live. 
 Does that change things a bit? Can I add Liara and Kaidan to the list(see below) or just Kaidan?

capn233 wrote...


ME3:
Get with Kelly before you lock in a romance (4)**
Get with Allers before you lock in a romance (7)
Complete romance with Jack after Grissom Academy (7)***
Romance and lock in Ash (8)



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Testing my memory. I do not recall what specific things you cannot take. I do not think it is really like ME1 in that regard, where some choices (with Ash) will terminate the possibility. Mainly the only "renegade" responses that end romances in ME2 (in general) are at the stage where they could be locked in, and then you have to choose to proceed or not.

Kelly I think you have to be relatively friendly to, but I could be mistaken, it has been a long time since I did a pure renegade ME2.

Miranda's conversations don't have all that many pure renegade dialogue with her, and in fact really renegade is more talking up Cerberus than it has anything to do with her. There is a renegade chain right before you kiss her about her being jealous of you, which still leads to romance.

Jack will end if you go pure renegade because that is where the casual sex option is. If you take nearly all renegade except that you can still romance her.

Tali is romanceable either way I think. Mostly the treatment of Veetor has an effect on how her loyalty mission can go (which options will work if present), and so indirectly influences the romance.

For all of them, they need to be loyal to romance IIRC. This also means that conflicts between crew members involving the LI in question need to be resolved keeping their loyalty. For instance, Mirand and Jack have an argument. You can end in favor of Jack, then "reconcile" with Miranda, but although Miri understands on some level your relationship goes back to strictly professional.

I only did one run where Liara was my LI from ME1. I don't remember how much paragon you have to take for that to work.

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Tali is romanceable either way I think. Mostly the treatment of Veetor has an effect on how her loyalty mission can go (which options will work if present), and so indirectly influences the romance.
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So if I let Veetor go but still being rude to her I am still able to romance her?

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Peterrrrr wrote...

capn233 wrote...


Tali is romanceable either way I think. Mostly the treatment of Veetor has an effect on how her loyalty mission can go (which options will work if present), and so indirectly influences the romance.
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So if I let Veetor go but still being rude to her I am still able to romance her?

I think so.

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capn233 wrote...

The highest number through the trilogy would be like this:

ME2:
Invite Kelly up to cabin around midgame (3)
Simultaneously go through romance dialogue for Tali, Miranda, and Jack.
Lock in Miranda (4)
After Suicide Mission, dump Miranda and invite Kelly up to dance (4)**
Lock in Tali romance (5)
Break up with Tali and lock in Jack (6)***
Sleep with Liara after LotSB (6)*


So I have just finsihed the Horizon mission and went down to talk to Jack, already she ask me If it was albout sex when asking her about things. 
 So, I want to follow the list above and get as many romance as possible WITHOUT using any glitch/bug. I do this because I want as much extra dialog/dramatic in ME3 :)
 

Should I avoid talking to Jack now or can I speak to her say no to sex and later in the game say yes and have sex with her? If it possible, what should I say in the latest conversation to make it possible to have sex later in the game:  

"No, Thanks"
or
"Yes, I want You"
which leads to:

"No I want to get to know you"

Or can I avoid this conversation now or does this conversation change/dissapear and dont coma back If I dont talk to her now? Because she will ask for help with her Loyality mission which makes a new conversation appear, will this convernsation dissapear then or return after her loyality mission?

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Do not say "Yes, I want you." That is the renegade casual relationship path. No romance will be possible after that.

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Just finished Jack loyality mission, on the first conversation after that mission with Jack there are 6 renegade points to get. After that she say talk later, can I do the renegade choices in that conversation or are the romance lost after that?

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Just wounder how many main-LI's there are in M3, if my male Shepard can romance Steve Cortex, Miranda and Kaidan(are Kaidan an main LI?). But still romance Tali and Liara? Or must I choose between Liara, Tali and Kaidan?

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You can only lock in with one LI (unlike ME2 where you can romance one, then another, and so on).

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cap and gown wrote...

You can only lock in with one LI (unlike ME2 where you can romance one, then another, and so on).


But which romances are not "main-LI"(the ones that you dont lock-in)? I know that Kelly and Diana arent that "main-LI, which other arent that? :)

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Also, if I do the citadel dlc before the lock in, there must be chance for other romance? Another question, how long will Liara and the other LI's wait on citadel for the lock-in. Are there any time-limit?