Some might argue the Ghost is easier than the Kroguard, especially if you don't have the Reegar.valium wrote...
would have saved time and energy to just tell them to play a kroguard against geth
Start in the tall building, get them to go to the high middle area, then slowly work your way around the low ground, up the ladder and into the LZ for the finish. It basically works for every class vs every faction on any difficulty. Dragoon bum-rush may be tricky, but with NS on Overload, you can just continually stun them to delay their advance. You don't have to kill any units on extraction whatsoever, and it is probably easiest if you don't.jamesbrown3 wrote...
Yea extraction on that map is the only real difficulty lol
Modifié par capn233, 06 juillet 2013 - 05:03 .
Modifié par jamesbrown3, 06 juillet 2013 - 05:38 .
and those people are wrong, the ghost could still get stun locked, while nothing the geth can throw at you is able to kill the kroguard.capn233 wrote...
Some might argue the Ghost is easier than the Kroguard, especially if you don't have the Reegar.valium wrote...
would have saved time and energy to just tell them to play a kroguard against gethStart in the tall building, get them to go to the high middle area, then slowly work your way around the low ground, up the ladder and into the LZ for the finish. It basically works for every class vs every faction on any difficulty. Dragoon bum-rush may be tricky, but with NS on Overload, you can just continually stun them to delay their advance. You don't have to kill any units on extraction whatsoever, and it is probably easiest if you don't.jamesbrown3 wrote...
Yea extraction on that map is the only real difficulty lol
jamesbrown3 wrote...
Yea extraction on that map is the only real difficulty lol
Belahzur wrote...
INVADERONE wrote...
The Krauser wrote...
Nice. The character I completed my very first two successful gold solos with. If I have anymore reset cards lying around, I'll fiddle around with the no fitness build.
Know whats interesting? I figured most people play the Ghost with no fitness but it turns out most people dont. I do understand on higher difficulties though like Platinum it can get rough with no fitness but the stim packs help a lot if you use the pre-emptively and after being damaged so you are really never in too much trouble. I think the no fitness comments have been more surprising than anything but I guess it does make sense at times. I wonder what do people sacrifice mostly to have some fitness? I would assume probably the last rank in overload and put those last three points in fitness does make sense too.
I would think it's because most people don't know the hidden mechanics in stim packs. They read the description, extra damage and shields returned.
However, BSN knows stim packs also give the all powerful iframes and with any cyclonic mods, even with no fitness, the Ghost is pretty tanky.
valium wrote...
and those people are wrong, the ghost could still get stun locked, while nothing the geth can throw at you is able to kill the kroguard.capn233 wrote...
Some might argue the Ghost is easier than the Kroguard, especially if you don't have the Reegar.valium wrote...
would have saved time and energy to just tell them to play a kroguard against gethStart in the tall building, get them to go to the high middle area, then slowly work your way around the low ground, up the ladder and into the LZ for the finish. It basically works for every class vs every faction on any difficulty. Dragoon bum-rush may be tricky, but with NS on Overload, you can just continually stun them to delay their advance. You don't have to kill any units on extraction whatsoever, and it is probably easiest if you don't.jamesbrown3 wrote...
Yea extraction on that map is the only real difficulty lol
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INVADERONE wrote...
jamesbrown3 wrote...
Yea extraction on that map is the only real difficulty lol
Yeah I agree with Robert/DumDum and RickJames extraction is the real difficulty. The game makes it that way though. It spawns the enemies erratically and most of the time close to you regardless of any attempt at spawn control. I have tried to spawn control extract but as speed runners know there is just so much you can control the extraction. You can force the spawn accross the map but thats about it. On a solo its still a little tough to do any spawn control but its mostly a game of leap frog. Jump from corner to corner of the map.
Air Quotes wrote...
I find this to be a better build overall
kalence.drupalgardens.com/me3-builder#58!1E08515!!23Z513!E59G5
Those 2 last evos on Stim Packs are not that useful as 1600 shields is more than enough, while passive Fitness comes into play.
Modifié par INVADERONE, 06 juillet 2013 - 07:17 .
my point is that kroguard vs geth is the epitome of newb friendly gold solo, unless the request was specifically for ghost.INVADERONE wrote...
valium wrote...
and those people are wrong, the ghost could still get stun locked, while nothing the geth can throw at you is able to kill the kroguard.capn233 wrote...
Some might argue the Ghost is easier than the Kroguard, especially if you don't have the Reegar.valium wrote...
would have saved time and energy to just tell them to play a kroguard against gethStart in the tall building, get them to go to the high middle area, then slowly work your way around the low ground, up the ladder and into the LZ for the finish. It basically works for every class vs every faction on any difficulty. Dragoon bum-rush may be tricky, but with NS on Overload, you can just continually stun them to delay their advance. You don't have to kill any units on extraction whatsoever, and it is probably easiest if you don't.jamesbrown3 wrote...
Yea extraction on that map is the only real difficulty lol
Kroguard definitely rules vs Geth on Solos. That would be a different guide. This one was specific for Reapers but works for the Collectors and even Cerberus but for the Geth I would probably go for a different kit even though the TGI can handle them just as good.
Modifié par valium, 06 juillet 2013 - 07:18 .
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INVADERONE wrote...
Air Quotes wrote...
I find this to be a better build overall
kalence.drupalgardens.com/me3-builder#58!1E08515!!23Z513!E59G5
Those 2 last evos on Stim Packs are not that useful as 1600 shields is more than enough, while passive Fitness comes into play.
Makes sense. Mind if I quote you and this build in the future if I decide to create an alternate build guide? Its similar to the build I created for him when the character came out but not quite.
valium wrote...
my point is that kroguard vs geth is the epitome of newb friendly gold solo, unless the request was specifically for ghost.
dumdum2 wrote...
INVADERONE wrote...
jamesbrown3 wrote...
Yea extraction on that map is the only real difficulty lol
Yeah I agree with Robert/DumDum and RickJames extraction is the real difficulty. The game makes it that way though. It spawns the enemies erratically and most of the time close to you regardless of any attempt at spawn control. I have tried to spawn control extract but as speed runners know there is just so much you can control the extraction. You can force the spawn accross the map but thats about it. On a solo its still a little tough to do any spawn control but its mostly a game of leap frog. Jump from corner to corner of the map.
On Giant it is really really easy though.
Here is one of my latest solos on that map (also 10 waves survived no consumables used). The extraction shows just how easy it is if you pay attention to where I move and when I move. There will never be any enemies in the way and you won't risk getting killed at all: youtu.be/hPC06gxfDAI
Easy to control the spawn, easy to kite, easy to never risk anything getting close to you and easy to have a totally empty LZ when the shuttle arrives.
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INVADERONE wrote...
The Krauser wrote...
Nice. The character I completed my very first two successful gold solos with. If I have anymore reset cards lying around, I'll fiddle around with the no fitness build.
Know whats interesting? I figured most people play the Ghost with no fitness but it turns out most people dont. I do understand on higher difficulties though like Platinum it can get rough with no fitness but the stim packs help a lot if you use the pre-emptively and after being damaged so you are really never in too much trouble. I think the no fitness comments have been more surprising than anything but I guess it does make sense at times. I wonder what do people sacrifice mostly to have some fitness? I would assume probably the last rank in overload and put those last three points in fitness does make sense too.
Air Quotes wrote...
Will not work with Dragoons.
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dumdum2 wrote...
Air Quotes wrote...
Will not work with Dragoons.
Good thing the guide is against Reapers then isn't it?
Cerberus are a bit annoying on that map, and that is because Phantoms tend to camp around the LZ no matter what you do and Dragoons just keep rushing after you no matter where you go.
They are usually dealt with easily though as can be illustrated in this extraction here: youtu.be/Gifd1_F4eXU
Extraction is at least as easy as the rest of the non-objective waves, probably moreso. Some of the factions on Platinum are somewhat tricky, but really it isn't harder than the main game.jamesbrown3 wrote...
OMG i know how to do it. i was making fun of the map.
Ghost versus any faction except Geth and possibly Collectors won't get stun locked. Just because Geth don't sync kill doesn't make them automatically the easiest faction. Someone that can't keep a Banshee from grabbing them on a big map probably isn't going to be able to keep all the hunters and prime drones in the frontal cone to prevent getting stunned either.valium wrote...
my point is that kroguard vs geth is the epitome of newb friendly gold solo, unless the request was specifically
for ghost.
Modifié par capn233, 06 juillet 2013 - 08:59 .
Air Quotes wrote...
I just stand in the control room and kill lolGoons. Phantoms never come there on extraction.
dumdum2 wrote...
Air Quotes wrote...
I just stand in the control room and kill lolGoons. Phantoms never come there on extraction.
Well, Invader's guide is for people struggling with Lone Wolf, and I believe they have a better chance during extraction if they keep moving. Standing in the control room can easily get them killed if they have trouble getting Lone Wolf you know.
For you and me we can basically stand anywhere on the map and have no problem with it, but not all players are like that. And you also know that most of Invader's subscribers aren't even on this forum so they won't even be "average" in "skill" as compared to BSN members.
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