296 réponses à ce sujet

[Sumthing]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

iakus wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

I have been preaching different genres Mass Effect games for a while, but I still want a sequel, if anything to see Mac's original dream undone

I'd pay for a game featuring Vega in a DeLorean if it meant seeing the endings undone.

As for scripted characters:  Those actually break immersion for me.  I play games to play a character, not watch a movie where I get to do the shooty parts.  If I want to be a passive observer, I read a book.

Edit:  And this is why I find teh decision to make more 'cinematic" rpgs to be pretty laughable.  How is it immersive to have your own character walking around saying stuff you don't want them to say?

then go play another RPG,BioWare can do whatever they want.Scripted characters work much better.Books?never heard of it,go with the times

Never heard of those choose your own adventure books? If you don't want to make choices, then you might as well just watch a movie or read a book. A game is a form of storytelling where the gamer SHOULD make choices, because they can. Would you play Sim City if the city was scripted to build up a certain way, without your input? Dwarf Fortress uses randomly generated game worlds, and I believe it is one of the best games I've ever played. You can do whatever you want in adventure mode, there is no scripted story.

[AresKeith]

Sumthing wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

u want and expect too much from BioWare,and you'll always get dissapointed for that.

The old Bioware gave us Baldur's Gate, NWN, Jade Empire, KOTOR and Mass Effect. Why should we expect little from them?

Fixed 

[Steelcan]

AresKeith wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

u want and expect too much from BioWare,and you'll always get dissapointed for that.

The old Bioware gave us Baldur's Gate, NWN, Jade Empire, KOTOR, Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect. Why should we expect little from them?

Fixed 

fixed

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

Sumthing wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

u want and expect too much from BioWare,and you'll always get dissapointed for that.

Bioware gave us Baldur's Gate, NWN, Jade Empire, KOTOR and Mass Effect. Why should we expect little from them?

you actually consider all these games good?

[crimzontearz]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Kroitz wrote...

bad guys? You mean those people out there to save the human race?

Son, I don't care if you're Mother freaking Teresa; if you try and kill Ellie, you're being put right at the top of my personal shit list.

yep

[Sumthing]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

it could work.BUT remember,Naughty Dog is simply superior to BioWare,so the result won't be as good.I THINK

Did Naughty dog make Baldur's Gate? I think not.

Naughty Dog made Jack & Daxter, Uncharted and The Last of Us. Your argument is invalid.

Bioware made KOTOR, Baldur's Gate 2, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, MDK2, and Dragon Age Origins. They also made the Infinity Engine, which spawned games such as Planescape Torment and Icewindale. 

Modifié par Sumthing, 07 juillet 2013 - 11:50 .

[Steelcan]

AresKeith wrote...

Kroitz wrote...

bad guys? You mean those people out there to save the human race?

the human race that became worst than the infected, yea no thanks

I'm sure there's more "immune" out there like Ellie

I still find it hard to hate Fireflies....

[AresKeith]

Steelcan wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

u want and expect too much from BioWare,and you'll always get dissapointed for that.

The old Bioware gave us Baldur's Gate, NWN, Jade Empire, KOTOR, Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect. Why should we expect little from them?

Fixed 

fixed

Very true, still need to play it myself 

[Sumthing]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

u want and expect too much from BioWare,and you'll always get dissapointed for that.

Bioware gave us Baldur's Gate, NWN, Jade Empire, KOTOR and Mass Effect. Why should we expect little from them?

you actually consider all these games good?

You consider these games otherwise?

[The Night Mammoth]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

u want and expect too much from BioWare,and you'll always get dissapointed for that.

Bioware gave us Baldur's Gate, NWN, Jade Empire, KOTOR and Mass Effect. Why should we expect little from them?

you actually consider all these games good?

Better than Uncharted. 

Not that being better than Uncharted is a great acheivement, I'd rather play Big Rigs or Superman 64 than stain my soul by playing that crap again. 

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 07 juillet 2013 - 11:50 .

[Sumthing]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

u want and expect too much from BioWare,and you'll always get dissapointed for that.

Bioware gave us Baldur's Gate, NWN, Jade Empire, KOTOR and Mass Effect. Why should we expect little from them?

you actually consider all these games good?

Better than Uncharted. 

Not that being better than Uncharted is a great acheivement, I'd rather play Big Rigs or Superman 64 than stain my soul with playing that crap again. 

Big Rigs is possibly the best sandbox game ever. You can break ALL the laws of physics. You can even go faster than the speed of light, and defy gravity.

[Sumthing]

AresKeith wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

u want and expect too much from BioWare,and you'll always get dissapointed for that.

The old Bioware gave us Baldur's Gate, NWN, Jade Empire, KOTOR, Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect. Why should we expect little from them?

Fixed 

fixed

Very true, still need to play it myself 

Bioware did it once, why can't they do it again?

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

Sumthing wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

u want and expect too much from BioWare,and you'll always get dissapointed for that.

Bioware gave us Baldur's Gate, NWN, Jade Empire, KOTOR and Mass Effect. Why should we expect little from them?

you actually consider all these games good?

You consider these games otherwise?

most of them,yes.I rarely care for story;i mostly care about the gameplay.These games don't have a fun gameplay

[Morty Smith]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Kroitz wrote...

bad guys? You mean those people out there to save the human race?

Son, I don't care if you're Mother freaking Teresa; you try and mess with Ellie, you're being put right at the top of my personal shit list.

I don`t think there is anyone in the end who messed more with Ellie than Joel did. I like the moral ambiguity, but I would not call the people bad guys who only did what had to be done because she accepted that particular fate herself. That´s all, end of off-topic from my part.

Modifié par Kroitz, 07 juillet 2013 - 11:57 .

[crimzontearz]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

u want and expect too much from BioWare,and you'll always get dissapointed for that.

Bioware gave us Baldur's Gate, NWN, Jade Empire, KOTOR and Mass Effect. Why should we expect little from them?

you actually consider all these games good?

You consider these games otherwise?

most of them,yes.I rarely care for story;i mostly care about the gameplay.These games don't have a fun gameplay

then play GOW, play COD, play DmC

MASS EFFECT is about a great story being told, people like you need to stop expecting a game's premise to be changed because the pew pew aspect of it does not have as much screen time percentage as action games

[Sumthing]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

u want and expect too much from BioWare,and you'll always get dissapointed for that.

Bioware gave us Baldur's Gate, NWN, Jade Empire, KOTOR and Mass Effect. Why should we expect little from them?

you actually consider all these games good?

You consider these games otherwise?

most of them,yes.I rarely care for story;i mostly care about the gameplay.These games don't have a fun gameplay

Go play pacman if you want mindless gameplay without story. If you don't care about story, then you're in the wrong place.
Also, they do have fun gameplay. Compared to most RPGs now, I think Baldur's Gate can actually offer some difficulty. NWN makes for great multiplayer Roleplaying servers. Why do you even care about scripted characters, when you don't care for story?

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

Sumthing wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

u want and expect too much from BioWare,and you'll always get dissapointed for that.

Bioware gave us Baldur's Gate, NWN, Jade Empire, KOTOR and Mass Effect. Why should we expect little from them?

you actually consider all these games good?

You consider these games otherwise?

most of them,yes.I rarely care for story;i mostly care about the gameplay.These games don't have a fun gameplay

Go play pacman if you want mindless gameplay without story. If you don't care about story, then you're in the wrong place.
Also, they do have fun gameplay. Compared to most RPGs now, I think Baldur's Gate can actually offer some difficulty. NWN makes for great multiplayer Roleplaying servers. Why do you even care about scripted characters, when you don't care for story?

Pac-man?Nah
I should probably explain it better

How can i care about the story when the gameplay is utterly boring?I lose interest.Videogames are mostly about having fun,that's why i liked ME3.It was fun with a decent story.

[Sumthing]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

u want and expect too much from BioWare,and you'll always get dissapointed for that.

Bioware gave us Baldur's Gate, NWN, Jade Empire, KOTOR and Mass Effect. Why should we expect little from them?

you actually consider all these games good?

You consider these games otherwise?

most of them,yes.I rarely care for story;i mostly care about the gameplay.These games don't have a fun gameplay

Go play pacman if you want mindless gameplay without story. If you don't care about story, then you're in the wrong place.
Also, they do have fun gameplay. Compared to most RPGs now, I think Baldur's Gate can actually offer some difficulty. NWN makes for great multiplayer Roleplaying servers. Why do you even care about scripted characters, when you don't care for story?

Pac-man?Nah
I should probably explain it better

How can i care about the story when the gameplay is utterly boring?I lose interest.Videogames are mostly about having fun,that's why i liked ME3.It was fun with a decent story.

Because gameplay is a method of progressing the story. It isn't the core of the game. You can't say the gameplay of all those games I mention is boring. I enjoyed all those games, not just because of their story, but also because of their gameplay. I remember having to approach situations tactically in Baldur's Gate, by casting spells and using potions and buffing before battles, not just blindly charging into battle. Also, a similar thing with NWN. I also remember that I had to use cover and not just rush out guns blazing in Mass Effect to really survive. Challenge is what makes gameplay exciting and interesting. Knowing you'll always win does not make a fun game, and that is why I enjoy the gameplay of the games I mentioned. I don't know why you find them boring, but I cannot imagine a good reason myself. If you want fun, mindless gameplay, go play COD.

[FlamingBoy]

They recently canceled a ME first person shooter game, so yeah

[crimzontearz]

FlamingBoy wrote...

They recently canceled a ME first person shooter game, so yeah

source?

[FlamingBoy]

crimzontearz wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

They recently canceled a ME first person shooter game, so yeah

source?

http://au.gamespot.com/news/bioware-considered-mass-effect-3-first-person-shooter-6366370
"Played from the first-person perspective, players would battle on foot
and drive vehicles like the Mako and Hammerhead hovercraft"

[crimzontearz]

FlamingBoy wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

They recently canceled a ME first person shooter game, so yeah

source?

http://au.gamespot.com/news/bioware-considered-mass-effect-3-first-person-shooter-6366370
"Played from the first-person perspective, players would battle on foot
and drive vehicles like the Mako and Hammerhead hovercraft"

no, I am fairly sure that the app also said that is how they wanted to tackle the MP in ME3, it was not a brand new game

[FlamingBoy]

crimzontearz wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

They recently canceled a ME first person shooter game, so yeah

source?

http://au.gamespot.com/news/bioware-considered-mass-effect-3-first-person-shooter-6366370
"Played from the first-person perspective, players would battle on foot
and drive vehicles like the Mako and Hammerhead hovercraft"

no, I am fairly sure that the app also said that is how they wanted to tackle the MP in ME3, it was not a brand new game

Yeah it was converted into multiplayer later on, as said in the article it was to be a different game.

"The goal was simple: to create a standalone multiplayer experience in
the Mass Effect universe that would mix the play styles of Unreal
Tournament and Battlefield 1943--and likely be released as a
downloadable game,"

there is prototype footage of the game in action.

Modifié par FlamingBoy, 08 juillet 2013 - 12:40 .

[crimzontearz]

FlamingBoy wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

They recently canceled a ME first person shooter game, so yeah

source?

http://au.gamespot.com/news/bioware-considered-mass-effect-3-first-person-shooter-6366370
"Played from the first-person perspective, players would battle on foot
and drive vehicles like the Mako and Hammerhead hovercraft"

no, I am fairly sure that the app also said that is how they wanted to tackle the MP in ME3, it was not a brand new game

Yeah it was converted into multiplayer later on, as said in the article it was to be a different game.

"The goal was simple: to create a standalone multiplayer experience in
the Mass Effect universe that would mix the play styles of Unreal
Tournament and Battlefield 1943--and likely be released as a
downloadable game,"

there is prototype footage of the game in action.

well yeah but it was always intended to be MP ONLY...it was scrapped with good reason