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[DHKany]

Nik6454 wrote...

46664 batsol amd cabal builds are awesome

if you can give brief descriptions of each's playstyle/mindset Ill quote you in the OP with the appropriate build.

[Deerber]

DHKany wrote...

Quite true Gao, but the cabal lacks the sheer weapon damage potential that soldiers and biotics have.
Admittedly she would be the speediest of all.

I slap a Raider on my Cabal too, and it wrecks everything. Who needs weapon dps when you can hide the reload in the Blades? 

Gao Qiu wrote...

Bump to say that this thread should be added as a link in Dragonracer's ME3 resource library - if she's even still around...?

She definitely is 

[DHKany]

Not saying she doesn't wreck with it. Just not quite as hard as AR rush soldier with frag spam or tac cheat boosts

[The-Fantasm]

I've only mainly used it on the GI/KS with the same builds you've posted here. Should give these others a try next time I'm on.

[Grotaiche]

Surprised you didn't mention the Quarian brothers : QMI and, to some extent, the Marksman.

[DHKany]

Found the QMI to better off with a more ammo hungry weapon as it places double value on replenishing ammo, but I wouldn't see why not.

With the Marksman i found the raider to become extremely unwieldy with only hipfire to rely on at longer ranges where marksman marksman raider really shines (kinda defeating the purpose of marksman). Stability on the TSol is what makes it usable with marksman active.

[Grotaiche]

DHKany wrote...

Found the QMI to better off with a more ammo hungry weapon as it places double value on replenishing ammo, but I wouldn't see why not.

With the Marksman i found the raider to become extremely unwieldy with only hipfire to rely on at longer ranges where marksman marksman raider really shines (kinda defeating the purpose of marksman). Stability on the TSol is what makes it usable with marksman active.

Indeed, I had overlooked the TSol's stability boost which is kinda crucial with the Raider !

[Deerber]

DHKany wrote...

Found the QMI to better off with a more ammo hungry weapon as it places double value on replenishing ammo, but I wouldn't see why not.

With the Marksman i found the raider to become extremely unwieldy with only hipfire to rely on at longer ranges where marksman marksman raider really shines (kinda defeating the purpose of marksman). Stability on the TSol is what makes it usable with marksman active.

If you have issue with that, just slap a stab module in the armor slot. Not many other useful consumables there anyway.

DHKany wrote...

Not saying she doesn't wreck with it. Just not quite as hard as AR rush soldier with frag spam or tac cheat boosts

Sure, she doesn't put up as much dps as those guys. But there's more than just dps in this game. She's a lot more mobile, and that's a very huge point.

Plus all that actually is important is the time to kill. She can kill a brute in two clips. That's not bad at all.

Speaking of which, I really should get back at playing her more...

[Serker31]

My N7Destr build.  More difficult to use than same build with Piranha, but it is equally wrecking with right aptitude. Slap Incendiary ammo for extra pain and warm background of fire explosions.

[Pint]

The raider is such a fantastic shotgun, I'm surprised that it took till now for someone to start one of these.

I have a build to offer later. Once I'm back to my computer and can sit down I can give a link to a build that goes hand in hand with the raider and it's one that deserves more love as well.

[Pint]

The build

Yes, a BF3 soldier build. The raider is obviously a great choice on the vanilla soldiers, yes, but the BF3 soldier offers shotgun to face with plentiful FEs on your beck and call.

Incendiary ammo is your go to choice here and needed to get the most out of priming your FEs.

There's a rhythm to his great destruction. Fire your raider, reload cancel with carnage(boom, FE #1), grenade(boom, FE #2), fire raider again, adrenaline rush, fire raider again, carnage(thanks to bonus power) and grenade. Et cetera.

Went with the extra grenades for more FEs as needed and chose shield overload since that will cover one of his main issues; dealing with shields. The extra armor damage isn't needed since your plentiful FEs melt everything else.
Raider with AR is amazing as we know, this offers some great fun and crowd control/even more boss melting abilities.

[Strick James]

Gave it a fair shake tonight and it's awesome. Tried it when I first got it and didn't like it. Picked it back up at IX...very nice indeed

[mybudgee]

LolRaider

[Gao Qiu]

Inconsistent Seas wrote...

The build

Yes, a BF3 soldier build. The raider is obviously a great choice on the vanilla soldiers, yes, but the BF3 soldier offers shotgun to face with plentiful FEs on your beck and call.

Incendiary ammo is your go to choice here and needed to get the most out of priming your FEs.

There's a rhythm to his great destruction. Fire your raider, reload cancel with carnage(boom, FE #1), grenade(boom, FE #2), fire raider again, adrenaline rush, fire raider again, carnage(thanks to bonus power) and grenade. Et cetera.

Went with the extra grenades for more FEs as needed and chose shield overload since that will cover one of his main issues; dealing with shields. The extra armor damage isn't needed since your plentiful FEs melt everything else.
Raider with AR is amazing as we know, this offers some great fun and crowd control/even more boss melting abilities.

Awesome, I'm going to try this tonight!  I've run Raider on the BF3 soldier before, but not like this...with extra hawt sauce!!

[Civet214]

Off host triple shots are awesome...

[Pint]

Gao Qiu wrote...

Inconsistent Seas wrote...

The build

Yes, a BF3 soldier build. The raider is obviously a great choice on the vanilla soldiers, yes, but the BF3 soldier offers shotgun to face with plentiful FEs on your beck and call.

Incendiary ammo is your go to choice here and needed to get the most out of priming your FEs.

There's a rhythm to his great destruction. Fire your raider, reload cancel with carnage(boom, FE #1), grenade(boom, FE #2), fire raider again, adrenaline rush, fire raider again, carnage(thanks to bonus power) and grenade. Et cetera.

Went with the extra grenades for more FEs as needed and chose shield overload since that will cover one of his main issues; dealing with shields. The extra armor damage isn't needed since your plentiful FEs melt everything else.
Raider with AR is amazing as we know, this offers some great fun and crowd control/even more boss melting abilities.

Awesome, I'm going to try this tonight!  I've run Raider on the BF3 soldier before, but not like this...with extra hawt sauce!!

He is some real damn fun once you get used to him and the raider makes him shine. Enjoy, my friend.

[Cellodanceparty]

 I tried. I tried to like the raider. On paper it looks great. It seems like it works well with a lot of players, but I just can't seem to like the raider. Tried turian soldier, geth infiltrator, AIU, quarian marksmen, salarian infiltrator, quarian engineer, human solider, and a few other kits. I just don't like it. It's not that it's not good, there's just different options for every kit I've tried it on (rather, there's guns I'm much much better with). I support the Raider, but I won't be using it again I think. 

[Pint]

Cellodanceparty wrote...

 I tried. I tried to like the raider. On paper it looks great. It seems like it works well with a lot of players, but I just can't seem to like the raider. Tried turian soldier, geth infiltrator, AIU, quarian marksmen, salarian infiltrator, quarian engineer, human solider, and a few other kits. I just don't like it. It's not that it's not good, there's just different options for every kit I've tried it on (rather, there's guns I'm much much better with). I support the Raider, but I won't be using it again I think. 

We have the same problem, just with different shotguns.
In all honesty, I have problems with the reegar.
Yes, the deeps is through the roof, I can get headshots easily, but, I just don't seem as effective with it compared to other shotguns.
The raider ain't easy. The first time I used it I hated it and could not see any merit in it. Things changed with time and understanding. We all have 'that' weapon.

[ssltrain]

Cellodanceparty wrote...

 I tried. I tried to like the raider. On paper it looks great. It seems like it works well with a lot of players, but I just can't seem to like the raider. Tried turian soldier, geth infiltrator, AIU, quarian marksmen, salarian infiltrator, quarian engineer, human solider, and a few other kits. I just don't like it. It's not that it's not good, there's just different options for every kit I've tried it on (rather, there's guns I'm much much better with). I support the Raider, but I won't be using it again I think. 

Wha? 

The AIU is a total beast with the Raider! You just gotta get good at point-blank range shooting and dodging. Well, and you gotta get it to level X.

Cloak, run right up to the mook's face, snap freeze, quick double shot, run off to the next one.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

Decimate all.

Modifié par ssltrain, 11 juillet 2013 - 05:42 .

[Gao Qiu]

Cellodanceparty wrote...

 I tried. I tried to like the raider. On paper it looks great. It seems like it works well with a lot of players, but I just can't seem to like the raider. Tried turian soldier, geth infiltrator, AIU, quarian marksmen, salarian infiltrator, quarian engineer, human solider, and a few other kits. I just don't like it. It's not that it's not good, there's just different options for every kit I've tried it on (rather, there's guns I'm much much better with). I support the Raider, but I won't be using it again I think. 

That's cool, thanks for trying at least, different strokes for different folks and all that.  Out of curiousity, which shotguns (if any) did you find yourself gravitating towards?

[longgamma]

I found the most mileage out I of it on an off host human soldier with AR. Almost six shots in a second!

[Deerber]

Cellodanceparty wrote...

 I tried. I tried to like the raider. On paper it looks great. It seems like it works well with a lot of players, but I just can't seem to like the raider. Tried turian soldier, geth infiltrator, AIU, quarian marksmen, salarian infiltrator, quarian engineer, human solider, and a few other kits. I just don't like it. It's not that it's not good, there's just different options for every kit I've tried it on (rather, there's guns I'm much much better with). I support the Raider, but I won't be using it again I think. 

Uhm, apart from the two marksman kits, looks like you might have problems with its accuracy (which is indeed a problem). Ever thought about trying it on a vanguard? No problems closing in with them... 

[DHKany]

Yep, CQC characters are probably the best characters to use in the game after accuracy boosting platforms with the raider (Adrenlaine Rush being an exception. Delish 6-8 shots off host)

[Strick James]

Last night I was just using Krosent. Lift grenades and raider. Once you understand not to double tap everything except atlas/brute. You are good to go. I even started aiming first shot at the manhood...second shot face. Anyways, good shotgun

[Cellodanceparty]

Gao Qiu wrote...

Cellodanceparty wrote...

 I tried. I tried to like the raider. On paper it looks great. It seems like it works well with a lot of players, but I just can't seem to like the raider. Tried turian soldier, geth infiltrator, AIU, quarian marksmen, salarian infiltrator, quarian engineer, human solider, and a few other kits. I just don't like it. It's not that it's not good, there's just different options for every kit I've tried it on (rather, there's guns I'm much much better with). I support the Raider, but I won't be using it again I think. 

That's cool, thanks for trying at least, different strokes for different folks and all that.  Out of curiousity, which shotguns (if any) did you find yourself gravitating towards?

Ever since I got my Wraith tot X I use it a LOT. Beyond that, I use the Claymore and occasionally the Reegar but reegar is a little much of easy mode so I tend to avoid it. I can imagine using the Venom, but seeing as I still don't have it (seriously, I have more than half of the URs maxed and I STILL haven't unlocked it, the only UR I don't have :[). But, I tend to, more often than not use SRs (I love the Jav and the BW, and over the past couple months I've come to love the I dra as well).