First, background: I'm making a new playthrough in which I ruin as many lives as possible, out of curiousity for how those actions are handled. I've killed or exiled every single companion in both DAO and DAA, and now I'm playing DA2...
In DA:A, I never recruited Anders. I turned him over to the Templar at the gate (with King Alistair) instead. Never saw him again.
In DA2, he complains about having been a Grey Warden, and how they made him get rid of his cat.
I get retconning certain things, like bringing a dead character back to life where necessary. But that's actually an easier retcon: Instead of dying, they limped off to lick their wounds. It doesn't really affect the rest of the story.
But the Anders thing is different. He is describing an entire portion of his life that never actually occured. There was no Ser-Pounce-A-Lot, he never joined the Grey Wardens, and he never made friends with the Warden Commander.
So why does he act as if he did? Is this an import bug, or did they just completely retcon the whole thing? Wouldn't it have been better to just record a few extra lines of dialogue to alter his story slightly?
Import Weirdness: Fate of Anders
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Maclimes
, juil. 09 2013 04:33
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Posté 09 juillet 2013 - 08:15
Renmiri1
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Who says the new Warden commander (or Allistair) didn't make him a Warden after your Warden disappeared ?
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Posté 10 juillet 2013 - 04:28
ThePhoenixKing
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Honestly, the story process for bringing Anders over to DAII was just a complete mess from beginning to end, and the Voodoo Shark that is his short story didn't help matters. It's all plot-driven, and crumbles instantly when a moment's thought is applied.
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Posté 10 juillet 2013 - 10:00
KiwiQuiche
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Bioware just gave up caring and made up stuff for DA2 regardless of what happened in previous games.
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Posté 10 juillet 2013 - 01:55
Maclimes
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Renmiri1 wrote...
Who says the new Warden commander (or Allistair) didn't make him a Warden after your Warden disappeared ?
I guess? It's possible. It seems like a cop out.
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Posté 15 juillet 2013 - 06:44
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This was covered in "Bioware handwaving the story again? (anders)" thread on page 3.
David Gaider wrote...
A game can support alternate versions. A short story cannot. If you never recruited Anders, he was never at Vigil's Keep. So it might have happened as the short story lays out, it might not.
He did become a Grey Warden, however, whether you recruited him or not, and he eventually met Justice in that case-- whether Justice was in Kristoff's body or not.
Did we hand-wave your choice to not recruit Anders? Sure did. But that doesn't mean we contradict it, despite your assumptions.
a big blunt wrote:
Did you also contradict the fact that he can die in one of the endings?
Aldaris951 wrote...
How was it possible for anders to escape
the templers after you hand him over IF wardens keep was not saved and
your player was the only surviving warden at the end of awakening? The
warden trainer at the keep would not of been alive if the wardens keep
fell, So there would of been no wardens except for the player to of made
anders a warden.
David Gaider:
Clearly another Warden would have recruited him?
David Gaider wrote...
A game can support alternate versions. A short story cannot. If you never recruited Anders, he was never at Vigil's Keep. So it might have happened as the short story lays out, it might not.
He did become a Grey Warden, however, whether you recruited him or not, and he eventually met Justice in that case-- whether Justice was in Kristoff's body or not.
Did we hand-wave your choice to not recruit Anders? Sure did. But that doesn't mean we contradict it, despite your assumptions.
a big blunt wrote:
Did you also contradict the fact that he can die in one of the endings?
Aldaris951 wrote...
How was it possible for anders to escape
the templers after you hand him over IF wardens keep was not saved and
your player was the only surviving warden at the end of awakening? The
warden trainer at the keep would not of been alive if the wardens keep
fell, So there would of been no wardens except for the player to of made
anders a warden.
David Gaider:
Clearly another Warden would have recruited him?
Modifié par Gyrefalcon, 15 juillet 2013 - 06:45 .
