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[ShepnTali]

Do sniper rifles suck as bad as people say in ME1? I want to do another trilogy run, and I love sniping in 2 and 3. Iknow it won't be as good, but doable?

[KiwiQuiche]

StreetMagic wrote...

Damn, not even worth a second playthrough? lol, and I thought I was a tough critic.

I really don't dislike it that much. I just dislike the ending. There's a lot of other parts that are awesome.

Funny enough, I thought the end was the only bad bit, but when I did my second playthrough I realized just how bad the game was overall.

[Sanunes]

I do, I play all three. I find each one has areas of disappointment to me as a player and look past it and enjoy the game for what it is. If I was to be negative towards BioWare for the issues in their games I would have to treat all game companies the same for every game I have ever played has had a flaws and I might as well stop playing all together then.

[KaiserShep]

ShepnTali wrote...

Do sniper rifles suck as bad as people say in ME1? I want to do another trilogy run, and I love sniping in 2 and 3. Iknow it won't be as good, but doable?

They're tricky to use at first, but I appreciate that you kind of have to adjust carefully, rather than having it simply be perfectly still. I find it to be more fun that it moves about a bit, more so if you don't have as much training points.

[MegaSovereign]

ShepnTali wrote...

Do sniper rifles suck as bad as people say in ME1? I want to do another trilogy run, and I love sniping in 2 and 3. Iknow it won't be as good, but doable?

With upgrades and higher skill trees it's more than doable.

[Clayless]

I've played through ME3 about 4 times, which was all my playthroughs. Currently doing another full trilogy playthrough, which is better now that I understand the mechanics of the game more thanks to ME3 MP.

[Steelcan]

KiwiQuiche wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Damn, not even worth a second playthrough? lol, and I thought I was a tough critic.

I really don't dislike it that much. I just dislike the ending. There's a lot of other parts that are awesome.

Funny enough, I thought the end was the only bad bit, but when I did my second playthrough I realized just how bad the game was overall.

Truly the ending is only a small part of why ME3 is dissapointing

[KiwiQuiche]

Steelcan wrote...

KiwiQuiche wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Damn, not even worth a second playthrough? lol, and I thought I was a tough critic.

I really don't dislike it that much. I just dislike the ending. There's a lot of other parts that are awesome.

Funny enough, I thought the end was the only bad bit, but when I did my second playthrough I realized just how bad the game was overall.

Truly the ending is only a small part of why ME3 is dissapointing

Once that new-game smell vanished...

[Steelcan]

KiwiQuiche wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

KiwiQuiche wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Damn, not even worth a second playthrough? lol, and I thought I was a tough critic.

I really don't dislike it that much. I just dislike the ending. There's a lot of other parts that are awesome.

Funny enough, I thought the end was the only bad bit, but when I did my second playthrough I realized just how bad the game was overall.

Truly the ending is only a small part of why ME3 is dissapointing

Once that new-game smell vanished...

Upon closer inspection cracks always appear.  But honestly most of my complaints are more based on the direction of where the writers went in regards to things like Cerberus, Reapers, etc...

[KiwiQuiche]

StreetMagic wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

KiwiQuiche wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

KiwiQuiche wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Damn, not even worth a second playthrough? lol, and I thought I was a tough critic.

I really don't dislike it that much. I just dislike the ending. There's a lot of other parts that are awesome.

Funny enough, I thought the end was the only bad bit, but when I did my second playthrough I realized just how bad the game was overall.

Truly the ending is only a small part of why ME3 is dissapointing

Once that new-game smell vanished...

Upon closer inspection cracks always appear.  But honestly most of my complaints are more based on the direction of where the writers went in regards to things like Cerberus, Reapers, etc...

I still tie most of that to an ending complaint.

Of course, you could always trace it back far enough and say the foundation was screwed from the getgo, but I don't care to overthink it too much. Many parts of the game would have been similar regardless of foundation (Genophage and Rannoch were always issues waiting to be addressed, for example).

Why? A lot of the problems aren't related to the end; the whole Earth mess, the stupidity of the Cerberus and the Rannoch/Coup/Thessia Arcs are writing throw ups. The end is just another cluster cuss from a writer who had no idea wtf he was doing.

[Steelcan]

KiwiQuiche wrote...


Why? A lot of the problems aren't related to the end; the whole Earth mess, the stupidity of the Cerberus and the Rannoch/Coup/Thessia Arcs are writing throw ups. The end is just another cluster cuss from a writer who had no idea wtf he was doing.

I knew you were a sharp one

[Steelcan]

StreetMagic wrote...

What's wrong with Rannoch? I understand a lot of other complaints. Nothing with Rannoch or Tuchanka though. Thessia was OK up until they threw in Kai Leng.

I understand the ending sucks and Cerberus presence is just frustrating to even think about. They're beyond retarded... but.. I'm not willing to say the whole game sucks either. I compartmentalize.

I want my space Morrigan option

[KiwiQuiche]

StreetMagic wrote...

What's wrong with Rannoch? I understand a lot of other complaints. Nothing with Rannoch or Tuchanka though. Thessia was OK up until they threw in Kai Leng.

I understand the ending sucks and Cerberus presence is just frustrating to even think about. They're beyond retarded... but.. I'm not willing to say the whole game sucks either. I compartmentalize.

Tuchunka was okay. Sure, they pulled Kalros outta their ass, but at least it wasn't Crucible-level bad.

Rannoch? It did a completely 180 of the geth's views and made the Quarians a bunch of war-mongering morons for teh dramaz not to mention that stupid Reaper fight that made the Reapers look even more incompetent.

Oh and don't forget Sur'Kesh. Ugh.

EDIT: Derp

Modifié par KiwiQuiche, 10 juillet 2013 - 04:58 .

[KaiserShep]

StreetMagic wrote...

What's wrong with Rannoch? I understand a lot of other complaints. Nothing with Rannoch or Tuchanka though. Thessia was OK up until they threw in Kai Leng.

The biggest complaints I've seen were either about the boss battle where you lase the reaper destroyer for bombardment, which admittedly is kind of awkward, but I still enjoy the hell out of it, or the fact that Legion suddenly forces you into choosing whether or not the geth survive the ordeal right then and there by using the reaper code upgrade on the rest of the geth while maintaining their free will, which some have said betrays his characterization up until this point. Personally I don't really have a big problem with either of these things. I still found this mission pretty satisfying, regardless of how my choice of ending renders this.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 10 juillet 2013 - 05:00 .

[Steelcan]

StreetMagic wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

What's wrong with Rannoch? I understand a lot of other complaints. Nothing with Rannoch or Tuchanka though. Thessia was OK up until they threw in Kai Leng.

I understand the ending sucks and Cerberus presence is just frustrating to even think about. They're beyond retarded... but.. I'm not willing to say the whole game sucks either. I compartmentalize.

I want my space Morrigan option

Uh.. what do you mean? Siding with Xen somehow?

Are you saying you want a more Control friendly playthrough? I guess that's valid, if so. You don't get the option until the end.

Precisely, use what Rael'Zorah and Xen were working on. 

[AresKeith]

KaiserShep wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

What's wrong with Rannoch? I understand a lot of other complaints. Nothing with Rannoch or Tuchanka though. Thessia was OK up until they threw in Kai Leng.

The biggest complaints I've seen were either about the boss battle where you lase the reaper destroyer for bombardment, which admittedly is kind of awkward, but I still enjoy the hell out of it, or the fact that Legion suddenly forces you into choosing whether or not the geth survive the ordeal right then and there by using the reaper code upgrade on the rest of the geth while maintaining their free will, which some have said betrays his characterization up until this point. Personally I don't really have a big problem with either of these things. I still found this mission pretty satisfying, regardless of how my choice of ending renders this.

I would've liked the option to make peace without the Reaper Code

[Steelcan]

StreetMagic wrote...

Fair enough. Sometimes it's hard to understand complaints, because I never considered certain things for myself. I've always been a Destroy CB/Destroy in general type of guy.

[o Ventus]

-The ultra contrivance of the final choice (do you want to commit genocide and betray a friend, or do you want to commit genocide and betray a friend?)

-The stupid boss battle against the Destroyer (just shows off how inconsistently powerful the Reapers are)

-Legion (and by extension, the rest of the geth) just wants to be a "real boy" (and along the way, contradicts his entire presentation from ME2 for cheap emotional play)

Modifié par o Ventus, 10 juillet 2013 - 05:05 .

[NeroonWilliams]

Gabbenator8787 wrote...

Eamon696 wrote...

I actually just finished a trilogy playthrough, and Mass Effect 3 is really growing on me. It may even be my second favorite Mass Effect game, after Mass Effect 2.

The ending isn't great, but with all the DLC installed I actually really enjoy Mass Effect 3.

I would not doubt that at all. But ultimately whats the point of going on a longer journey when the end destination is still largely the same? Ultimately one can only do that for so long before it gets tiring. Thats why having multiple and greatly varied endings wouldve actually helped immensely. 

The point is that in ME3 the choices you make are much more about the journey than the destination.

Was the WA/GR system largely irrelevant?  Yes.  In the end the Reapers were ALWAYS going to be defeated by a deus ex machina, because they were that powerful.  That doesn't mean that choices were irrelevant.  Your choices help inform the character of each Shepard you play.  A Shepard who sabotages the Genophage clearly thinks differently than one that cures it.  The same goes for one that picks the Quarians over the Geth (or vice versa) or even over making peace.

The final encounter with the AI is and isn't about doing the "right" thing.  All 4 choices will break the cycle, but the encounter is more about who each Shepard IS.  That still means replayability for me, because each of my Shepards is their own person with their own motivations and aspirations.  A couple of them have even surprised me with their final choice being different from the choice I thought they would make from the moment I created them.

So yeah, if you're a person who can't role play as anyone other than yourself, then ME3 is probably going to bore the pants off you because you know how it all ends.  But if you can put yourself into someone else's mind for a couple of hours at a time, sit back and enjoy the journey for what it can be.

For the record, I'm currently in the middle of my 18th playthrough of ME3 (14th trilogy), and I think I MAY be close to exhausting my imagination for new and different Shepards.