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BG 4 in 1 "Place CD6 in D:\\" Installation Error

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Posté 10 juillet 2013 - 04:36

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Just bought Baulder's Gate 4 in 1 new on Amazon. Have a 2008 Gateway PC gaming laptop that runs on Windows 7. I want to install them all and play back to back. All the games seem to install well (I use recommended installation method), but playing is a different issue.

When I just install Baulder's Gate, it plays rather well and I can re-open whenever. But as soon as I install any other CD (TotSC, BGII or ToB), whenever I try to play, the window "Place CD 6 in D:\\" shows up for the BG1 disk, and the window "Place CD 1 in D:\\" shows up when I insert TotSC. I keep going back and forth but can't play either.



I confess I'm at a loss. I looked at a lot of trouble-shooting resources online, but none of them seem to match my problem. I tried following TheOriginalDaniel's advice but couldn't get past Step 2 because, when I ticked all boxes, a window claimed there wasn't enough space in the cache. I don't want to risk permanent damage.



Any advice?

Modifié par Faerunner, 10 juillet 2013 - 06:25 .

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Posté 10 juillet 2013 - 06:52

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Since you have been following the TheOriginalDavid's advice, I do hope that you followed his # 12 suggestion. And what do you mean there aren't enough space in the cache? in the computer cache? or in the game's cache? If it is in the computer's cache you can make some extra space - at least you can do this in Win XP - but maybe you're able to this in win 7 as well? And CD6 is normally the Tales of the Sword Coast disc.

Have you patched your games or do they come patched?

Also, the advice here normally is to get the games from GOG. They come patched, and with all extra info as well. And work on modern systems (like Windows 7).

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Posté 10 juillet 2013 - 07:20

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Like I said, I never got past #2 because I didn't want to commit to putting all files on the computer. The installation process (don't know what else to call it) generally creates a cache to put a small amount of game files in the computer, while the rest are drawn from the CD itself during gameplay (hence the computer generally wanting you to insert the disk to play). When choosing "custom" install, you can choose between a small, medium or large cache. (The "recommended" installation always chooses the medium 140 MB cache). Even when choosing the largest one, it claims there's not enough room for all the files in the CD. (I'll get the direct quote later as I have to go now.) It doesn't seem to let me make it bigger. :/

I honestly don't know if they're patched and don't know how to look. How can you tell?

I'm sorry, I didn't realize.

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Posté 10 juillet 2013 - 07:37

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As I remember it is small, medium or large install. And I always choose the large install - and I haven't gotten this message. So, where are you installing these games? To the C: drive? which as I recall it are where the Operating System are stored or to the D: drive (or E: drive).

As for installing the game:
There's a trick to this as well as I remember having read on the now defunct (old) forums: Please allow the discs to spin all the way up and all the way down before clicking OK - this will let the system now that everything is OK. The problem here I think is this: Not letting the cds or dvds do this, the computer will think (if a computer can think?) that not all the info is getting into the computer....

You can generally see if they're patched is they have a version number. I think the latest patch for BG1 is 1.6 something (sorry, I forgot the rest). But normally you can tell it what version you have by looking at the cds(dvds) or by looking at the screen in one the corners (normally in the upper left corner).

BTW, how much space is there on your harddisk. This could be the cause of your problem. Another thing that causes much trouble in Windows 7 is installing game files to the C: drive. Windows 7 likes to put files belonging to the operating system here (as does win 8), so try to choose another place to install the game e.g. in a folder named Games.

You can also try to cheat the system by opening the install files directly from the cd and choosing the install.exe from the cd's (dvds)

You can also go into your BG games folder and run the games from bgmain.exe - this will bypass the need for autorun (the system that makes sure that if you put a cd/dvd in your drive the cd/dvd starts automatically)

No worries, we'll get it to work :)

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Posté 10 juillet 2013 - 09:41

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You should do a full install, i.e. tick the boxes to install everything possible. You're right that the game reports that you don't have enough memory, but just ignore that (it's because systems have moved on so much since this game was created and it doesn't scan modern system resources properly).

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Posté 11 juillet 2013 - 12:04

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Thank you both very much.

Um... before using your advice to install it again, could you help delete a few loose files? :unsure:

I think I forgot about a Black Isle folder during this latest installation, or something, because after clicking Start -> Computer -> Local Disk (C:) -> Program Files, I found both a Black Isle folder and the Baldur's Gate1 folder I created. Any time I tried to delete one of them, a window would pop up saying "This action can't be completed because the file is open in another program" and only give the option to "Try Again" (which never works) or "Cancel."

So, being the brilliant person I am, I tried putting my Baldur's Gate 1 folder into the Black Isle folder. It's now layered Program Files -> Black Isle -> Baldur's Gate -> Baldur's Gate1 -> *BG Icon* Baldur, which, when I click on it, the start menu comes on (the one you can use to click install/uninstall, play, readme, etc). Said start menu has the option to install but not play, so it's clear the game is off my computer, but this loose file isn't. I also still can't delete any of them as the same "file is open in another program" window comes on.

... Sorry, I'm REALLY embarrassed about this. Do either of you know how I can get this permanently deleted off my computer before trying to re-install?

EDIT: Shortened this post. Made some progress.

Modifié par Faerunner, 11 juillet 2013 - 01:56 .

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Posté 11 juillet 2013 - 01:56

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UPDATE: All right, I got rid of the BG1 files so now it's just Program Files -> Black Isle -> Baldur's Gate -> *BG Icon* Baldur, which I can click on to open the game's... desktop start menu? (Small box with Install, View Readme, Demos, Exit; painting of skull guy and iconic music). All folders and files are empty except for these things.

Any time I try to delete these, the same old "file is open in another program" shows up. However, I managed to move the *BG Icon* Baldur onto the desktop. When I try to delete it or move it into the recycling bin from there, it says "This action cannot be completed because the file is open in Baldur.exe."

So, now I just need to find Baldur.exe... I already used CCleaner to scan and wipe the registry of all errors, so short of manually navigating the registry with regedit, that's out. I ran a windows search of anything with the word Baldur. Three things showed up. The offending Baldur's Gate file, the offending *BG Skull* Baldur icon, and an icon of a person with a red cross through a circle and the word "Baldur (tiny) TM.Ink" on it.

Clicked on that. The old "this file cannot be opened without assistence" window popped up. Now to find a way to crack this nut...

Modifié par Faerunner, 11 juillet 2013 - 02:21 .

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Posté 11 juillet 2013 - 03:57

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It sounds like your computer thinks the game is still open. Try restarting your computer in windows safe mode and then deleting. Incidentally, don't install to the default location - create a new folder, e.g. c:/games/BG1. This is because versions of windows from Vista onwards protect files in the Program Files location in a way that the game doesn't like - causing a number of potential problems.

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Posté 11 juillet 2013 - 04:49

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Indeed. Thank you, that just took care of the problem.

All right, after making sure the PC is free of any other BG contact (so this doesn't happen again), I'll follow your guys' installation advice. I'll let the DVD spin for a while (doesn't hurt, right?), create a new games folder, do a complete installation, ignore the message that says there isn't enough room (I've got 151 GB free of 186; I think there's room), and just keep following TheOriginalDaniel's advice.

Just to make sure: I install the game completely and then search through the cd1-5 folders manually from the disk itself, right? (After today's fiasco, just want to make sure this goes as smoothly as possible.)

aries1001: The upside to this madness is I got to see what version this game is, and it is indeed not patched. (It was 1.00... well, all zeroes after the one.) Should I patch BG before installing TotSC, after they're both fully installed, or does TheOriginalDaniel's Step 11 Patch for TotSC cover both?

Thank you both for all of your help so far. I greatly appreciate it!

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Posté 11 juillet 2013 - 05:16

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Faerunner wrote...
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Any time I try to delete these, the same old "file is open in another program" shows up. .


This is caused by the modern windows security system and the other user is indeed you.

To be clear; one you (group) is the administrator monitoring this programs access to the network resources while the other you is just you (singular) whom are wondering what crack head working for Microsoft decided to make the programs folder into the last place any sane person would want to put their programs.

p.s. while restarting the system will work it’s normally enough to just logout and back in.
as for the other question I’d install totsc first then patch the game. :wub:

Modifié par ussnorway, 11 juillet 2013 - 05:21 .

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Posté 11 juillet 2013 - 06:15

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ussnorway wrote...

This is caused by the modern windows security system and the other user is indeed you.

To be clear; one you (group) is the administrator monitoring this programs access to the network resources while the other you is just you (singular) whom are wondering what crack head working for Microsoft decided to make the programs folder into the last place any sane person would want to put their programs.

p.s. while restarting the system will work it’s normally enough to just logout and back in.
as for the other question I’d install totsc first then patch the game. :wub:


Oh, I see. Thank you for your input! I wish I'd thought of that at the time, but at least it's gone now. I'll remember it for the future though, and thank you for the advice on patching. =) (Sorry, I ask for help a LOT, but I appreciate all input!)

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Posté 11 juillet 2013 - 03:10

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As ussnormay suggests you should install Tales of the Sword Coast first, then patched the game. remember, though, to get the correct patch for your version of BG and Tales of the Sword Coast.

You will the Tales of the Sword Coast patch, especially since this take care of a very annoying bug
(having to do with the game not recognizing flags for completed quests e.g. a gamebreaking bug) which means you can't complete the games. The Tales of the Sword coast patch comes, I think, i these forms:

An English version (for games sold in the UK, normally has a bbfc rating on it)
An US version (has T or M rating on it)
And an international version (has an ELSPA rating on it)
and probably one or two other versions as well

As for finding these patches, I suggest you do a google search - or maybe you can ind the info in one of the stickied threads...

As for starting the game from the BG folder, you'd need to find BGmain.exe and click on this.

It's OK to ask for help - we all do it from time to time... ;)

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Posté 11 juillet 2013 - 03:21

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If you have installed the game completely, e.g. made a large install, all files should have been copied to your harddisk. There is no need for you to go through the files from cd 1-5 or 6. Why would you search throúgh the files from the cd or dvd?

Here's how to explore or navigate in Windows 7:

'Windows Explorer' is still there...its now called 'Navigation pane', but is not 'enabled' by default. Open My Computer, click 'Organize', select 'Layout', select 'Navigation pane'. You can now 'explore' by right clicking a folder, drive or disk in the NavPane and selecting 'Expand'.

http://www.kickenhar...ot-in-Windows-7 ' class='bbc_url' title='Lien externe' rel='nofollow external'> http://www.kickenhar...ot-in-Windows-7

If you enable this, you should be able to see what's on the dvd and then you should be able to click the install.exe from the dvd

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Posté 11 juillet 2013 - 03:56

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Not to sound like a whiner, but I've followed TheOriginalDaniel's advice to the letter and got stuck on Step 11. Do you know which of the several download buttons is supposed to be the patch? I've tried a few of them, even ones that claim to be the patch, but they just seem to be ads to other products.

Modifié par Faerunner, 11 juillet 2013 - 03:58 .

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Posté 11 juillet 2013 - 07:25

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Hi Faerunner :)

I was confused too :)

However, after clicking out the ad, it is the blue button which you'll need to click in order to get the patch for the US version - if this version is indeed the version you have. You can check this by looking after the letter T for the T-rating from ESRB, it looks like this:
http://www.esrb.org/ratings/search.jsp

After you've clicked on the blue button, you're taken to a site on which there are two options (server 1 and server 2), you'll need to click on one of them to download the patch for the US version of the game.

I really hope this helps :)

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Posté 11 juillet 2013 - 08:49

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Thank you aries1001, your help is greatly appreciated. =)

To clear up any confusion: I got rid of all the loose files, custom installed BG and TotSC, placed them in C:\\Games\\Baldur's Gate\\, did a complete installation for both (tacked all boxes), and copy/pasted the data/movies folders for cds1-6. However, I renamed each copy/pasted folder so they're all side-by-side, so I can delete them if need be.

As for which version, I believe it's European because it has a PEGI rating. That is, a small yellow box with a 12 inside (indicating age 12) and a picture of a shaking fist next to it (indicating violence). http://www.pegi.info/en/index/

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Posté 11 juillet 2013 - 10:08

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 FINALLY!! IT WORKED!!

Aries was right. The extra data and movies didn't work so I deleted them, still didn't work, so I uninstalled and re-installed BG and TotSC. Did a complete installation in C:\\Games\\Baldur's Gate, downloaded the patch, and now when I insert TotSC it runs!!

Oh, thank you all so much! You just made my week!! :D

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Posté 12 juillet 2013 - 04:12

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Yippee... Say hello to Volo for me.

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Posté 12 juillet 2013 - 04:52

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See, it worked :) Glad you got it to work :)

And yes, say hello to Volo from me as well. And remember to say HI to Drizzt D'Urden also.

Remember that black areas are areas you haven't explored yet and if you run or go into trouble you can't handle, do like a Monthy Python knight: run away....run away.....and come back later.

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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 09:14

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Heh, thanks aries1001. I always appreciate your moral support, and sense of humor. =)

Unfortunately, the black boxes also appear in areas I've already explored. Apparently, it's a rather common glitch. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a simple answer. BG II's graphical issues were fixed by configuring game graphics, but BG needs outside help. Right now, I'm considering the NVidia Fix (especially since I'm planning on playing other IE games in the near future). 

The problem is I'm now interested in trying out BG Tutu (sorry, not trying to get greedy so soon after getting the game to install, especially after all the work going into it) and possibly a widescreen mod. Some solutions to the black box glitch I've seen are incompatible with mods, and I fear this one might be too.

The guy who recommended the nvidia fix also implies the method to fix BG II (just adjusting the graphic settings) also works for Tutu. I wonder if that's so... Is this like with the complete installation of BG/TotSC, where I didn't have to copy/paste cds 1-6 because tacking all the boxes did it for me? Will I not need the NVidia Fix for BG1 since Tutu will basically make a copy of BG in the BG II engine, and thus the fix that worked for BG II will work for BG Tutu?

... Stream of consciousness on keys, don't mind me.

Modifié par Faerunner, 13 juillet 2013 - 09:17 .

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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 11:15

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Tutu does indeed use the BG2 engine, so a graphical fix that works with BG2 rather than BG1 would do the trick.
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