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[Urazz]

cjones91 wrote...

Urazz wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

 Wasn't Hawke in their late thirties by the end of DA2?  I wish it weren't an issue though....

Mid-30s at most, if s/he were 25 at the beginning of the game (no more than 10 years passed, and I think really only 7).

I don't think Cass's age is a deal-breaker, more like she is so powerful and experienced that I find it hard to believe she would follow someone else. But we don't know ANYTHING about the plot yet, so there's still hope

I thought Hawke was in his/her early 20s to mid 20s at the beginning of DA2 and around his/her late 20s early 30s at the end of DA2.  I figured it was the same for everyone else in DA:O and DA2 for the most part other than a few exceptions.

Cassandra is probably around the same age range of early 20s to early 30s.  Dawn of the Seeker did take place at around the end of DA2 if I recall so Cassandra probably isn't as old as everyone else in DA:O and DA2.

Actually DOTS took place a decade before DA2 and Cassandra was in her early twenties at that point.I think she will be in the early forties by the time DA:Inquisition starts.

Yeah, you are correct actually.  Though it didn't help that they made it seem like it took place later than that.

I.E. the mention of events of Kirkwall and then at the end where she was given that book by the Divine that she handed to Varric when she was interrogating him in DA2.

berelinde wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Urazz wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

 Wasn't Hawke in their late thirties by the end of DA2?  I wish it weren't an issue though....

Mid-30s at most, if s/he were 25 at the beginning of the game (no more than 10 years passed, and I think really only 7).

I don't think Cass's age is a deal-breaker, more like she is so powerful and experienced that I find it hard to believe she would follow someone else. But we don't know ANYTHING about the plot yet, so there's still hope

I thought Hawke was in his/her early 20s to mid 20s at the beginning of DA2 and around his/her late 20s early 30s at the end of DA2.  I figured it was the same for everyone else in DA:O and DA2 for the most part other than a few exceptions.

Cassandra is probably around the same age range of early 20s to early 30s.  Dawn of the Seeker did take place at around the end of DA2 if I recall so Cassandra probably isn't as old as everyone else in DA:O and DA2.

Actually DOTS took place a decade before DA2 and Cassandra was in her early twenties at that point.I think she will be in the early forties by the time DA:Inquisition starts.

Yup, R2s Muse was right. The World of Thedas encyclopedia gives 9:22 Dragon as the date for Dawn of the Seeker. Cassandra could have been as young as 18 at the time. That would make her 36 in 9:40 Dragon. She wouldn't be too old for a protagonist in his or her mid 20s - Hawke's age at the start of DA2 - but she would definitely have been too old for Carver.

I kind of see her as analogous to Aveline, at least as far as age goes. Some Hawkes look to her as a friend, equal, and willing (if unwitting) flirting partner. Other Hawkes cast her as a mentor. Isabela was also a bit older than Hawke, but that didn't stop BioWare from making her a LI. Not everyone avoids women with life experience.

I was under the impression that Isabela was around in her mid 20s to upper 20s at the beginning of DA2.

Modifié par Urazz, 12 juillet 2013 - 01:54 .

[cjones91]

Urazz wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Urazz wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

 Wasn't Hawke in their late thirties by the end of DA2?  I wish it weren't an issue though....

Mid-30s at most, if s/he were 25 at the beginning of the game (no more than 10 years passed, and I think really only 7).

I don't think Cass's age is a deal-breaker, more like she is so powerful and experienced that I find it hard to believe she would follow someone else. But we don't know ANYTHING about the plot yet, so there's still hope

I thought Hawke was in his/her early 20s to mid 20s at the beginning of DA2 and around his/her late 20s early 30s at the end of DA2.  I figured it was the same for everyone else in DA:O and DA2 for the most part other than a few exceptions.

Cassandra is probably around the same age range of early 20s to early 30s.  Dawn of the Seeker did take place at around the end of DA2 if I recall so Cassandra probably isn't as old as everyone else in DA:O and DA2.

Actually DOTS took place a decade before DA2 and Cassandra was in her early twenties at that point.I think she will be in the early forties by the time DA:Inquisition starts.

Yeah, you are correct actually.  Though it didn't help that they made it seem like it took place later than that.

I.E. the mention of events of Kirkwall and then at the end where she was given that book by the Divine that she handed to Varric when she was interrogating him in DA2.

Well Varric's interrogation takes place three years after the events of Kirkwal and the events of Asunder.Assuming DA:Inquisition takes place a few years after those events Cassandra should be in her early forties.

Of course I don't mind having a older LI since Cassandra is hot regardless.

[Maria Caliban]

Isabela, Leliana, and Morrigan were all in the mid-twenties to mid-thirties age range. It's not bad at all.

[garrusfan1]

berelinde wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

is she anti magic

Why do people keep saying this?

She is not anti-magic. She is not anti-mage.

She had the Standard-Issue Templar Background - relatives slaughtered by blood mages, etc, etc, etc - but during the course of Dawn of the Seeker, she learned to trust mages. She became close friends (maybe more) with one of them, and a large portion of the Val Royeaux Circle of Magi saved her life.

When she interrogates Varric, she is trying to find Hawke - possibly Mage!Hawke - because she feels that Hawke is the only person who can stop the war. She doesn't care if Hawke is a mage, a templar, an assassin, or a nug. All she wants to do is get the mages and the templars to stop fighting each other and tearing the world apart.

She shows obvious scorn for Anders, but that's perfectly understandable. She had literally no idea how messed up things were in Kirkwall, and she felt that Anders just randomly slipped a cog and blew up the chantry for kicks. Varric accuses her of feeling infatuation/hero worship toward Hawke regardless of his/her class or end-game affiliation, so Varric's explanation must have cleared things up for her.

I didn't know if she was or not I have only seen her in DA2

[garrusfan1]

to those who say her being in her 40s is weird for her to be in a romance with the inquisitor. I would like to point out shepard was in his 30s and tali was around 20 and I mean early 20s. I don't think the inquisitor will we any younger then his 30s so it wouldn't be weird

[R2s Muse]

cjones91 wrote...

Urazz wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Urazz wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

 Wasn't Hawke in their late thirties by the end of DA2?  I wish it weren't an issue though....

Mid-30s at most, if s/he were 25 at the beginning of the game (no more than 10 years passed, and I think really only 7).

I don't think Cass's age is a deal-breaker, more like she is so powerful and experienced that I find it hard to believe she would follow someone else. But we don't know ANYTHING about the plot yet, so there's still hope

I thought Hawke was in his/her early 20s to mid 20s at the beginning of DA2 and around his/her late 20s early 30s at the end of DA2.  I figured it was the same for everyone else in DA:O and DA2 for the most part other than a few exceptions.

Cassandra is probably around the same age range of early 20s to early 30s.  Dawn of the Seeker did take place at around the end of DA2 if I recall so Cassandra probably isn't as old as everyone else in DA:O and DA2.

Actually DOTS took place a decade before DA2 and Cassandra was in her early twenties at that point.I think she will be in the early forties by the time DA:Inquisition starts.

Yeah, you are correct actually.  Though it didn't help that they made it seem like it took place later than that.

I.E. the mention of events of Kirkwall and then at the end where she was given that book by the Divine that she handed to Varric when she was interrogating him in DA2.

Well Varric's interrogation takes place three years after the events of Kirkwal and the events of Asunder.Assuming DA:Inquisition takes place a few years after those events Cassandra should be in her early forties.

Of course I don't mind having a older LI since Cassandra is hot regardless.

Varric's interrogation did take place 3 yrs after Act 3, so in 9:40. This is the same year DA: Asunder ends, though, as noted in the epilogue. So, in principle, DA:I could begin shortly after we last saw Cassandra. Since Varric cites the Templar split, which happens at the end of Asunder in 9:40, his interrogation must happen after the book's events. It's also listed in that chronological order in World of Thedas.

Modifié par R2s Muse, 12 juillet 2013 - 03:39 .

[AppealToReason]

garrusfan1 wrote...

to those who say her being in her 40s is weird for her to be in a romance with the inquisitor. I would like to point out shepard was in his 30s and tali was around 20 and I mean early 20s. I don't think the inquisitor will we any younger then his 30s so it wouldn't be weird

By the end of Mass Effect, Shepard was like 33 and Tali was approximately 25 which isn't too bad. Liara was like 110 when she was cradle robbing Shepard. Miranda was older by a couple years too if I recall correctly.


As for Cassandra, I just don't like her character at all. I think a lot of it is her accent. Hate it. But as long as there is at least one party member with lady parts that I enjoy then I don't care if Cassandra is a LI at all because I can ignore her unless you can play mind games and turn her into a sobbing little crybaby then I'd totally do it.

[cjones91]

R2s Muse wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Urazz wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Urazz wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Danny Boy 7 wrote...

 Wasn't Hawke in their late thirties by the end of DA2?  I wish it weren't an issue though....

Mid-30s at most, if s/he were 25 at the beginning of the game (no more than 10 years passed, and I think really only 7).

I don't think Cass's age is a deal-breaker, more like she is so powerful and experienced that I find it hard to believe she would follow someone else. But we don't know ANYTHING about the plot yet, so there's still hope

I thought Hawke was in his/her early 20s to mid 20s at the beginning of DA2 and around his/her late 20s early 30s at the end of DA2.  I figured it was the same for everyone else in DA:O and DA2 for the most part other than a few exceptions.

Cassandra is probably around the same age range of early 20s to early 30s.  Dawn of the Seeker did take place at around the end of DA2 if I recall so Cassandra probably isn't as old as everyone else in DA:O and DA2.

Actually DOTS took place a decade before DA2 and Cassandra was in her early twenties at that point.I think she will be in the early forties by the time DA:Inquisition starts.

Yeah, you are correct actually.  Though it didn't help that they made it seem like it took place later than that.

I.E. the mention of events of Kirkwall and then at the end where she was given that book by the Divine that she handed to Varric when she was interrogating him in DA2.

Well Varric's interrogation takes place three years after the events of Kirkwal and the events of Asunder.Assuming DA:Inquisition takes place a few years after those events Cassandra should be in her early forties.

Of course I don't mind having a older LI since Cassandra is hot regardless.

Varric's interrogation did take place 3 yrs after Act 3, so in 9:40. This is the same year DA: Asunder ends, though, as noted in the epilogue. So, in principle, DA:I could begin shortly after we last saw Cassandra. Since Varric cites the Templar split, which happens at the end of Asunder in 9:40, his interrogation must happen after the book. It's also listed in that chronological order in World of Thedas.

Huh...I always thought the interrogation took place a year or two after the events of Asunder.Thanks for the correct timeline since I thought there was a significant ammount of time between the ending of Asunder and Cassandra locating and interrogating Varric.

[R2s Muse]

cjones91 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Well Varric's interrogation takes place three years after the events of Kirkwal and the events of Asunder.Assuming DA:Inquisition takes place a few years after those events Cassandra should be in her early forties.

Of course I don't mind having a older LI since Cassandra is hot regardless.

Varric's interrogation did take place 3 yrs after Act 3, so in 9:40. This is the same year DA: Asunder ends, though, as noted in the epilogue. So, in principle, DA:I could begin shortly after we last saw Cassandra. Since Varric cites the Templar split, which happens at the end of Asunder in 9:40, his interrogation must happen after the book. It's also listed in that chronological order in World of Thedas.

Huh...I always thought the interrogation took place a year or two after the events of Asunder.Thanks for the correct timeline since I thought there was a significant ammount of time between the ending of Asunder and Cassandra locating and interrogating Varric.

NP! It took me forever to get it set in my head that there were *three* whole years before anyone started asking those kind of questions. LOL

On the ages... I have a bigger problem with the seniority of Cassandra than her age. It's hard for me to imagine a scenario where someone who leads armies, the Hero of Orlais and the hand of the Divine, is following around my n00b, level 1 protagonist. Of course, they "re-specced" Anders between Awakenings and DA2 to become a lower level character (I think he was around lev 4ish when he joins you in Act 1?) so maybe it's less of a big deal than I think. On the other hand, they did have to address why Alistair lets you, the lowest ranking GW, lead. I would presume the writers would just have to come up with another plausible reason.

[cjones91]

R2s Muse wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Well Varric's interrogation takes place three years after the events of Kirkwal and the events of Asunder.Assuming DA:Inquisition takes place a few years after those events Cassandra should be in her early forties.

Of course I don't mind having a older LI since Cassandra is hot regardless.

Varric's interrogation did take place 3 yrs after Act 3, so in 9:40. This is the same year DA: Asunder ends, though, as noted in the epilogue. So, in principle, DA:I could begin shortly after we last saw Cassandra. Since Varric cites the Templar split, which happens at the end of Asunder in 9:40, his interrogation must happen after the book. It's also listed in that chronological order in World of Thedas.

Huh...I always thought the interrogation took place a year or two after the events of Asunder.Thanks for the correct timeline since I thought there was a significant ammount of time between the ending of Asunder and Cassandra locating and interrogating Varric.

NP! It took me forever to get it set in my head that there were *three* whole years before anyone started asking those kind of questions. LOL

On the ages... I have a bigger problem with the seniority of Cassandra than her age. It's hard for me to imagine a scenario where someone who leads armies, the Hero of Orlais and the hand of the Divine, is following around my n00b, level 1 protagonist. Of course, they "re-specced" Anders between Awakenings and DA2 to become a lower level character (I think he was around lev 4ish when he joins you in Act 1?) so maybe it's less of a big deal than I think. On the other hand, they did have to address why Alistair lets you, the lowest ranking GW, lead. I would presume the writers would just have to come up with another plausible reason.

It is possible Cassandra will do her own thing with leading the Loyalist Seekers when she is not in the party.

[duckley]

I dont understand why some returning characters are improved in their looks i.e. Flemith, Cullen and some look way worse - Zevran, Alistair and now Cassandra.

Please help me understand why the designers would do this!

[R2s Muse]

cjones91 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Well Varric's interrogation takes place three years after the events of Kirkwal and the events of Asunder.Assuming DA:Inquisition takes place a few years after those events Cassandra should be in her early forties.

Of course I don't mind having a older LI since Cassandra is hot regardless.

Varric's interrogation did take place 3 yrs after Act 3, so in 9:40. This is the same year DA: Asunder ends, though, as noted in the epilogue. So, in principle, DA:I could begin shortly after we last saw Cassandra. Since Varric cites the Templar split, which happens at the end of Asunder in 9:40, his interrogation must happen after the book. It's also listed in that chronological order in World of Thedas.

Huh...I always thought the interrogation took place a year or two after the events of Asunder.Thanks for the correct timeline since I thought there was a significant ammount of time between the ending of Asunder and Cassandra locating and interrogating Varric.

NP! It took me forever to get it set in my head that there were *three* whole years before anyone started asking those kind of questions. LOL

On the ages... I have a bigger problem with the seniority of Cassandra than her age. It's hard for me to imagine a scenario where someone who leads armies, the Hero of Orlais and the hand of the Divine, is following around my n00b, level 1 protagonist. Of course, they "re-specced" Anders between Awakenings and DA2 to become a lower level character (I think he was around lev 4ish when he joins you in Act 1?) so maybe it's less of a big deal than I think. On the other hand, they did have to address why Alistair lets you, the lowest ranking GW, lead. I would presume the writers would just have to come up with another plausible reason.

It is possible Cassandra will do her own thing with leading the Loyalist Seekers when she is not in the party.

True, sort of like Aveline. But I suppose with Aveline, I figured she was just palling around with me, her BFF. Cassandra... not really the BFF type, it seems...? LOL But if she's been assigned to "help"  you in your efforts from time to time, I suppose it could make sense. I wonder if that suggests that it has to be the Divine who's making those calls...

[brushyourteeth]

duckley wrote...

I dont understand why some returning characters are improved in their looks i.e. Flemith, Cullen and some look way worse - Zevran, Alistair and now Cassandra.

Please help me understand why the designers would do this!

It's because the character models had to be recreated anyway, so the artists tried to either get as true to their original look as possible or true, but with improvement.

... and it just so turned out that their opinion of "better" is sometimes different from yours.

[Plaintiff]

Cassandra is a far more attractive woman than any pedant who spends their free time nitpicking the appearance of fictional characters can expect to land in real life.

[Azaron Nightblade]

Not sure about her age, but I'd say she was 16-18 around the time of DotS - hard to say given how hard it is to judge anime characters that always look young.
I had the feeling all the other Seekers also regarded her as being young.
My guess is she's about the same age as Leliana, they didn't seem to be far apart when you saw them side by side at DA2's ending.

[Lord Raijin]

Why are you people straining yourselves over the math regarding about how old Cassandra will be in Dragon Age: I? She looks mighty damn good! Shes a potential great character... if BioWare gives her the opportunity to shine. Besides so what if shes older? What counts is that shes not the damsel in distress type of person so you don't have to worry about going on a business trip to find to return back home just to hear that shes been kidnapped.

I just hope that BioWare gives her the same voice actress in the incoming game. The accent from DA2 was very good.

[nightscrawl]

duckley wrote...

I dont understand why some returning characters are improved in their looks i.e. Flemith, Cullen and some look way worse - Zevran, Alistair and now Cassandra.

Please help me understand why the designers would do this!

While I do think that Cullen does look better in DA2, that is largely due to the engine change. His actual features are pretty much exactly the same from DAO, only in a different engine. Leliana is another DAO>DA2 port that is nearly identical.

The difference in engine must be taken into account when discussing this. I'm sure that if Cullen were to appear in DAI he will also look different, based on the capabilities and limitations of Frostbite.

Flemeth... well Flemeth is Flemeth and you can simply say that she can appear however she pleases. To your greater point though, I think they wanted to focus on the dragon aspect, and so designed her around that. Her final form in DA2 is very close to the concept art.

[Boycott Bioware]

brushyourteeth wrote...
On-topic: if Cassandra doesn't say "Bullsh*t!" at least once in DA:I, I am probably going to send poop to Bioware's doorstep.*

I think Cassandra say "Bull****!" in the trailer when she stab the map...i think she will go to the eye...next

Modifié par Qistina, 12 juillet 2013 - 09:27 .

[Angrywolves]

Let's just cut through all this.
Assume for the sake of argument that Cassandra is one of the first companions to join the Inquisitor .
As the player do you immediately start romancing her or do you wait to see who else joins the party?

[cjones91]

Angrywolves wrote...

Let's just cut through all this.
Assume for the sake of argument that Cassandra is one of the first companions to join the Inquisitor .
As the player do you immediately start romancing her or do you wait to see who else joins the party?

Well depending on early she joins then I would definitely romance Cassandra.

[brushyourteeth]

Angrywolves wrote...

Let's just cut through all this.
Assume for the sake of argument that Cassandra is one of the first companions to join the Inquisitor .
As the player do you immediately start romancing her or do you wait to see who else joins the party?

Personally, I wait till the menfolk show up before I do any romancin'.

But in the meantime, I'll still enjoy how simultaneously gorgeous and BA-looking my new friend Cassandra 2.0 is.

[embraceternity]

I've always thought Cassandra was both gorgeous (in her movie, DA2 and the Inquisition trailer), and I adore her personality. I'd love to romance her. Of course, that'd mean she'd have to not only be a romance, but could romance same-sex characters, but.

[Danny Boy 7]

Angrywolves wrote...

Let's just cut through all this.
Assume for the sake of argument that Cassandra is one of the first companions to join the Inquisitor .
As the player do you immediately start romancing her or do you wait to see who else joins the party?

Depends how early the romance dialogue shows up and if I've planned before hand to romance her...which I partially have. I didn't really wait in Origins because you can start really early with Morrigan, but Leliana came in so soon afterwards that I probably could have if I'd waited.

Isabela was different because by the end of Merrill's quest I'd heard Carver's little flirting and I wouldn't do that to my bro. Plus she seemed too young emotionally to me at the time. Isabela was awesome and different enough from Morrigan that it was a nice change.

I guess it depends how soon after the second female LI comes.

[berelinde]

Angrywolves wrote...

Let's just cut through all this.
Assume for the sake of argument that Cassandra is one of the first companions to join the Inquisitor .
As the player do you immediately start romancing her or do you wait to see who else joins the party?

I try every romance at least once, so at least one PC will start chatting up Cassandra as soon as she is ammenable to it, but everybody will get a turn.