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[Queen Deadite]

Well first I am shocked that the discussion was left open.  Second it is kind of off putting everyone took it so personally that I made a generalized statement.  Like I said I just wanted to get it out of my system.  So I put it out there and let it go.  Seriously if I was that angry about it, I wouldn't own the games, but I am allowed to be disappointed and shouldn't be made fun of because I choose to show that disappointment. 

So I guess lesson learned I won't bother to post on the board.

[brushyourteeth]

Filament wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

Bioware people here get a lot of respect and forum posters defending them, but by the same token, BW people here don't treat fans with naked contempt as I've seen on ME3 forums countless times.

Show me one post where an ME3 dev treats a fan with "naked contempt."

Casey Hudson wrote...

Filament wrote...

Hey gais! *opens trench coat*

OMG man! Put some clothes on!

(...I hope it's obvious enough this is made up that no one accuses me of misquoting someone )

Contempt would be more "that's disgusting!!"

[brushyourteeth]

Queen Deadite wrote...

Well first I am shocked that the discussion was left open.  Second it is kind of off putting everyone took it so personally that I made a generalized statement.  Like I said I just wanted to get it out of my system.  So I put it out there and let it go.  Seriously if I was that angry about it, I wouldn't own the games, but I am allowed to be disappointed and shouldn't be made fun of because I choose to show that disappointment. 

So I guess lesson learned I won't bother to post on the board.

Do post, but post your own opinions -- not for anyone else.

And my opinion on the matter is that you always get further by critiquing someone constructively. You experienced today what a bummer it is to be the focus of negativity on the forums. Imagine what it's like to be a Bioware developer and read posts like yours all day, every day, for years on end.

Maybe next time offer up some helpful suggestions about things you would like, or highlight some of the things you already like that you'd like to see continued or expanded on. Give the good with the bad, and give the bad respectfully.

[Volus Warlord]

Queen Deadite wrote...

Well first I am shocked that the discussion was left open.  Second it is kind of off putting everyone took it so personally that I made a generalized statement.  Like I said I just wanted to get it out of my system.  So I put it out there and let it go.  Seriously if I was that angry about it, I wouldn't own the games, but I am allowed to be disappointed and shouldn't be made fun of because I choose to show that disappointment. 

So I guess lesson learned I won't bother to post on the board.

Really?


So you make a thread expecting it be locked because it is inflammatory and then you whine about people criticizing you for your admittingly inflammatory statements?

You are either a very good troll or not too smart.

[LinksOcarina]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Queen Deadite wrote...

Well first I am shocked that the discussion was left open.  Second it is kind of off putting everyone took it so personally that I made a generalized statement.  Like I said I just wanted to get it out of my system.  So I put it out there and let it go.  Seriously if I was that angry about it, I wouldn't own the games, but I am allowed to be disappointed and shouldn't be made fun of because I choose to show that disappointment. 

So I guess lesson learned I won't bother to post on the board.

Really?


So you make a thread expecting it be locked because it is inflammatory and then you whine about people criticizing you for your admittingly inflammatory statements?

You are either a very good troll or not too smart.

Probably both, but then what does that make all of us? 

[Volus Warlord]

LinksOcarina wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Queen Deadite wrote...

Well first I am shocked that the discussion was left open.  Second it is kind of off putting everyone took it so personally that I made a generalized statement.  Like I said I just wanted to get it out of my system.  So I put it out there and let it go.  Seriously if I was that angry about it, I wouldn't own the games, but I am allowed to be disappointed and shouldn't be made fun of because I choose to show that disappointment. 

So I guess lesson learned I won't bother to post on the board.

Really?


So you make a thread expecting it be locked because it is inflammatory and then you whine about people criticizing you for your admittingly inflammatory statements?

You are either a very good troll or not too smart.

Probably both, but then what does that make all of us? 

The rest of you? That is a hell of a question. 

[LinksOcarina]

Volus Warlord wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Queen Deadite wrote...

Well first I am shocked that the discussion was left open.  Second it is kind of off putting everyone took it so personally that I made a generalized statement.  Like I said I just wanted to get it out of my system.  So I put it out there and let it go.  Seriously if I was that angry about it, I wouldn't own the games, but I am allowed to be disappointed and shouldn't be made fun of because I choose to show that disappointment. 

So I guess lesson learned I won't bother to post on the board.

Really?


So you make a thread expecting it be locked because it is inflammatory and then you whine about people criticizing you for your admittingly inflammatory statements?

You are either a very good troll or not too smart.

Probably both, but then what does that make all of us? 

The rest of you? That is a hell of a question. 

Perhaps its one we shouldn't answer...and we should slowly back away....yeah....

[Volus Warlord]

LinksOcarina wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Queen Deadite wrote...

Well first I am shocked that the discussion was left open.  Second it is kind of off putting everyone took it so personally that I made a generalized statement.  Like I said I just wanted to get it out of my system.  So I put it out there and let it go.  Seriously if I was that angry about it, I wouldn't own the games, but I am allowed to be disappointed and shouldn't be made fun of because I choose to show that disappointment. 

So I guess lesson learned I won't bother to post on the board.

Really?


So you make a thread expecting it be locked because it is inflammatory and then you whine about people criticizing you for your admittingly inflammatory statements?

You are either a very good troll or not too smart.

Probably both, but then what does that make all of us? 

The rest of you? That is a hell of a question. 

Perhaps its one we shouldn't answer...and we should slowly back away....yeah....

Lol I already have an answer, it's just a matter of how to word it.. 

But my answer would also be viewed inflammatory  guaranteed.

[Zeldrik1389]

Queen Deadite wrote...

Well first I am shocked that the discussion was left open.  Second it is kind of off putting everyone took it so personally that I made a generalized statement.  Like I said I just wanted to get it out of my system.  So I put it out there and let it go.  Seriously if I was that angry about it, I wouldn't own the games, but I am allowed to be disappointed and shouldn't be made fun of because I choose to show that disappointment. 

So I guess lesson learned I won't bother to post on the board.

A friendly tip. Next time try to use "In My Opinion" aka Imo or Imho(in my honest opinion) instead of "everybody" or "all of us" ... etc ... Help you avoid alot of trouble, trust me. Everybody can have an opinion, but assuming "everybody" thinks like you is a big mistake.

[Realmzmaster]

Queen Deadite wrote...

Well first I am shocked that the discussion was left open.  Second it is kind of off putting everyone took it so personally that I made a generalized statement.  Like I said I just wanted to get it out of my system.  So I put it out there and let it go.  Seriously if I was that angry about it, I wouldn't own the games, but I am allowed to be disappointed and shouldn't be made fun of because I choose to show that disappointment. 

So I guess lesson learned I won't bother to post on the board.

If you wish to rant that is fine. The problem is you used words like everyone. You have only one opinion and that is your own. You cannot and should not speak for everyone

[Alodar]

Besides the obvious everyone only speaks for themselves bit, I have a question:

What exactly is your Warden?

• Your Warden was created with a different game engine, so if they were recreated in DAI they would look entirely different.
• Your Warden wore armour/robes created with a different game engine so what they are wearing would look entirely different.
• Your Warden chose one of several sound sets and was a mostly silent protagonist. BioWare is not going to fully voice 20 different protagonists so your Warden will most likely sound entirely different.
• Your Warden had spells and abilities that probably don't exist in whatever system DAI is using.

Would you really be happy with a different looking, different sounding, protagonist that had different abilities that BioWare tacked your Warden's name on to?

[TheRealJayDee]

David Gaider wrote...

Queen Deadite wrote...
1st I like how you guys are always saying you listen to your fans, and then do completely the opposite of what your fans keep telling you we want.

Which fans? Near as I've ever been able to tell, our fans aren't of a single mind regarding anything... and that's even among the small subset that choose to come to our forums.

Why is it everyone keeps telling you that we want our wardens back, but you won't let us have them?

"Everyone" is not telling us this.

Or how about how you have a lot of Dragon Age fans that don't want to play as a human but that option is being taken away.  Keep on alienating your consumers and you aren't going to have a company much longer.

Just to be clear: us listening to what some fans express a desire for isn't going to translate into us always agreeing or even being able to implement those desires. We will, in the end, need to pick a path that accomodates our resources and our own intentions... and we'll take into account what fans express a desire for, even if we can't possibly accommodate everyone.

If someone feels alienated by our choices, then they shouldn't buy the game. That's what being a consumer is all about. If we don't have enough consumers once all that is said and done, we will indeed not have a game or a company for much longer. Thanks for the tip.

Why do you waste your precious "respond on the BSN in a completely appropriate tone"-ability on a thread like this?



It has such a long cooldown...

[LOLandStuff]

Can't let go of your warden? Try fanfiction.

[Cultist]

Queen Deadite wrote...

 Just need to take a moment to get this out of my system.  

1st I like how you guys are always saying you listen to your fans, and then do completely the opposite of what your fans keep telling you we want.  

Why is it everyone keeps telling you that we want our wardens back, but you won't let us have them?  Or how about how you have a lot of Dragon Age fans that don't want to play as a human but that option is being taken away.  Keep on alienating your consumers and you aren't going to have a company much longer.  

Thats my rant.

OP, let me give you a hint. A week ago Project Eternity weekly update told us about Item Durability and Crafting system. That controversial update spawned an emotional reaction and some negative feedback. After taking all feedback into account, Item Durability was removed and Crafting mechanics changed. Even earlier PE team presented UI prototype. After listening to feedback a decision was made to make UI 30% smaller.
I think you got the point.

There's still people from BSN on PE forums, arguing to add romanceable horses and rocks but fear not, Chris Avellone hates romances and we have good chances to stop this retardo plague.

[MstrJedi Kyle]

My warden ran away with Morrigan and I'm assuming she has devoured his soul or something by now.

As for not playing an Elf or a Dwarf...

Modifié par DarthKilby, 12 juillet 2013 - 11:50 .

[Aolbain]

Renmiri1 wrote...


Ya, I love it here. ME3 team are snobbish and hostile to fans <_<

Maybe, but the people on the ME3 board are snobbish and hostile to everyone.

[mopotter]

thats1evildude wrote...

I personally have never said I want the Warden back, and I'm a fan.

Me too.  i'm a fan.  I don't want any of my past characters back.  

[AlanC9]

Queen Deadite wrote...

Well first I am shocked that the discussion was left open.  Second it is kind of off putting everyone took it so personally that I made a generalized statement.  Like I said I just wanted to get it out of my system.  So I put it out there and let it go.  Seriously if I was that angry about it, I wouldn't own the games, but I am allowed to be disappointed and shouldn't be made fun of because I choose to show that disappointment. 

You were being made fun of only because you said that the "fans" want what you want. That never works.

[mopotter]

Aolbain wrote...

Swoopdogg wrote...

 If bioware did everything its fans asked them too, they'd be broke.

And have very weird games, given that we all want different things.

On the other hand, just think of all the options that would be available.  Truly personalized gaming experience.  
Won't be in my lifetime.  

[KoyoteN7]

Queen Deadite wrote...

Well first I am shocked that the discussion was left open.  Second it is kind of off putting everyone took it so personally that I made a generalized statement.  Like I said I just wanted to get it out of my system.  So I put it out there and let it go.  Seriously if I was that angry about it, I wouldn't own the games, but I am allowed to be disappointed and shouldn't be made fun of because I choose to show that disappointment. 

So I guess lesson learned I won't bother to post on the board.

Why did you even post this if you thought this thread will get locked away? Nobody took it personally, it's simply a low quality, inflammatory thread these forums are full of and everyone got sick of ages ago. So if you are ready to lash out against someone, you might as well learn how to cope with it when it turns against you.

[Volus Warlord]

Aolbain wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...


Ya, I love it here. ME3 team are snobbish and hostile to fans <_<

Maybe, but the people on the ME3 board are snobbish and hostile to everyone.

Kettle, meet Pot.

[garrusfan1]

David Gaider wrote...

Queen Deadite wrote...
1st I like how you guys are always saying you listen to your fans, and then do completely the opposite of what your fans keep telling you we want.

Which fans? Near as I've ever been able to tell, our fans aren't of a single mind regarding anything... and that's even among the small subset that choose to come to our forums.

Why is it everyone keeps telling you that we want our wardens back, but you won't let us have them?

"Everyone" is not telling us this.

Or how about how you have a lot of Dragon Age fans that don't want to play as a human but that option is being taken away.  Keep on alienating your consumers and you aren't going to have a company much longer.

Just to be clear: us listening to what some fans express a desire for isn't going to translate into us always agreeing or even being able to implement those desires. We will, in the end, need to pick a path that accomodates our resources and our own intentions... and we'll take into account what fans express a desire for, even if we can't possibly accommodate everyone.

If someone feels alienated by our choices, then they shouldn't buy the game. That's what being a consumer is all about. If we don't have enough consumers once all that is said and done, we will indeed not have a game or a company for much longer. Thanks for the tip.

well said

[Angrywolves]

While it is true some fans are obnoxious and get out of control, fan is short for fanatic after all, developers should understand that goes with the territory .
Fawning fans who hero worship developers , while making developers happy, don't contribute anything useful to the discussion either.
It's not all sugar and rainbows .
Sad the newbie got their feelings hurt but they can't claim to speak for all of us DA fans.

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

Queen Deadite wrote...

 Just need to take a moment to get this out of my system.  

1st I like how you guys are always saying you listen to your fans, and then do completely the opposite of what your fans keep telling you we want.  

Why is it everyone keeps telling you that we want our wardens back, but you won't let us have them?  Or how about how you have a lot of Dragon Age fans that don't want to play as a human but that option is being taken away.  Keep on alienating your consumers and you aren't going to have a company much longer.  

Thats my rant.

Would you like some cheese with your whine?

[Tarek]

honestly all I care about in any game is good game play and good story and that's about it

what i want from bioware is for the combat not to suck and the story not to end like ME3 XD