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Do you pronounce it "go-lem" or "gal-lem?"


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Rolenka

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LostScout wrote...

Oddly enough, I never have opportunity to use this word in actual speech with real life human beings. But I would pronounce it go-lem if I used it.


You don't have gaming nerd friends? Poor thing.

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SusanStoHelit

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Rolenka wrote...

LostScout wrote...

Oddly enough, I never have opportunity to use this word in actual speech with real life human beings. But I would pronounce it go-lem if I used it.


You don't have gaming nerd friends? Poor thing.


Or read sci/fi or fantasy books? My family and friends and I use it all the time - but we read (many of us) The Discworld books.

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Leyt22

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Go-lem. Dragon Age was the first time I'd heard the word pronounced differently (or maybe the first time I'd heard it at all), and I was then worried I'd been pronouncing it incorrectly.

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RangerSG

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melkathi wrote...

mrofni wrote...

I speak it both ways. Often I say it how Smeagol does, in LotR.


You do realize though that the name Gollum Smeagol gave himself in the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings, has nothing to do whatsoever with the Golem of jewish legend?


If by nothing you mean in their nature, yes. But it's not entirely clear Tolkien wasn't borrowing the name still. A lot of his names got borrowed from other mythic sources.

And the yiddish is "Goy-lem" (creature with a soul but no spirit). My book drew on the Prague golem legend for a source.

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Gol-em for me... tho Go-lem occasionally.

any pronunciation with "gal" "gul" or "um" or even "am" seems too wrong for me...

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melkathi

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RangerSG wrote...

If by nothing you mean in their nature, yes. But it's not entirely clear Tolkien wasn't borrowing the name still. A lot of his names got borrowed from other mythic sources.


Tolkien's inspiration is irrelevant though here. The forum has quite a number of people who say that Shale is a "golum"
And we'll agree I hope that this is well... wrong? ;)

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gull-umm

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Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

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Sebiale wrote...

You say TOE-mah-toh, I say Tah-mah-TOE.



Damn, you beat me to it!:bandit:

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SusanStoHelit wrote...

Rolenka wrote...


You don't have gaming nerd friends? Poor thing.


Or read sci/fi or fantasy books? My family and friends and I use it all the time - but we read (many of us) The Discworld books.

@ Rolenka-  nope, no gaming nerd friends for me.  Poor thing indeed Posted Image
@ SusanStoHelit -  I have a bookshelf packed full of sci/fi fantasy books, in addition to books on orchids, insects and World War II tanks and airplanes.  But I can't remember ever discussing golems with friends or family.  They would think I was being silly, and we can't have that can we?Posted Image

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Sloth Of Doom

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I have friends from all over the world who are all gaming nerds and I can honsetly say DA is the first time I have heard anyone say 'ga-lem' All of my Canadian, American (save one) and English friend say go-lem or go-lum. My one Israeli and both my Arab friends say goy-lum.



One moron I know (the American I left out before)says 'gol-lum', to which we always respond with bad Smeagol jokes.



Then again, he says Pa-LAD-din and pronounces the G in gnome.

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beelzeybob

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"Gall-lum" (like ball) or "Gollum" 

...Laugh if you want.

Modifié par 13eelzebub, 19 janvier 2010 - 05:55 .


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Sloth Of Doom wrote...
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One moron I know (the American I left out before)says 'gol-lum', to which we always respond with bad Smeagol jokes.

Then again, he says Pa-LAD-din and pronounces the G in gnome.


Does he also pronounce the "h" in herb? I may be this American you know :lol:

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I'm afraid I can't really tell you how I pronounce it, because I've never heard a recording of myself saying it. I've used it in conversation many times and have my prefered way of saying it, but I have a strange accent (so I've been told) so what I hear myself say is not what others hear. Anyway, the way I most frequently intend to pronounce it is 'go' as in goal followed by 'lem'. It's almost goal-em, but the 'l' is in the second syllable. The other way I will occasionally pronounce it as is 'go' as in god followed by 'lim'. It may not be accurate but the second way is faster to say and uses less facial muscles and my facial muscles can give me troubles when I speak. Sad but true.Posted Image

In general, people pronounce things the way that their family and/or friends do, because that's usually the only way anyone learns a word. They don't really have a choice in the matter, so picking on those who mispronounce things unintentionally seems rather cruel, Sloth. Unless of course, you know the person to be a moron, and their mispronunciations were incidental to your statement. If that's the case, carry on.Posted Image

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errant_knight

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gal-um isn't a Canadian thing. I've never heard anyone say anything but Gol-um.

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RangerSG wrote...

melkathi wrote...

mrofni wrote...
I speak it both ways. Often I say it how Smeagol does, in LotR.

You do realize though that the name Gollum Smeagol gave himself in the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings, has nothing to do whatsoever with the Golem of jewish legend?

If by nothing you mean in their nature, yes. But it's not entirely clear Tolkien wasn't borrowing the name still. A lot of his names got borrowed from other mythic sources.


As far as I remember, the name "Gollum" referred to a horrible noise Smeagol made in his throat; it had nothing to do with animated statues made of clay.

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im confused when does anyone say Gal lem?

they say it more like Gollum but thats how ive always Pronounced Golem mabye its a regional thing?(i be from Scotland)