Cthulhu42 wrote...
The writing for ME3 varied wildly from quite good to absolutely terrible, with the worst-written parts generally being the most plot-relevant sections for which one would think the writing would be the most important.
The writing for SR4, however, was consistently good throughout.
So yes, SR4 wins.
Cobalt2113 wrote...
And you don't seem to appreciate is that my 'attacking' has nothing to do with your argument whatsoever. I'll make a counter example. If two people are squabbling and a third party tells them "hey knock it off you're acting like children". Is that an ad hominem?
I don't think it is. It's not an attempt to associate or attack their argument. It's simply asking them to shut up. It had nothing to do with the content of the argument at all.
Cobalt2113 wrote...
Ravensword wrote...
KotorEffect3 wrote...
Some people just think hating on ME 3 makes them "cool". Bottom line is that it was one of the best games of 2012 and I stand by that. Come at me haters. Friggin sociopathic gaming hipsters that are mad that they didn't get to join Cerberus in ME 3.
Yeah. Damn those haters! People shouldn't be allowed to express an opinion about ME3 unless it's a positive one.
And I would have no problem with people expressing their opinions, even if they are egregiously false. The problem is that the haters have no interest in expressing an opinion. They're just trying to score points in a stupid debate that's been going on for the past 18 months. It's kinda obvious really, that's why it's always "no it's just bad" rather than "i dislike it". One is an opinion, the other is trying to state an opinion as though it were a fact. If they would use the latter then I could respond "but I like it, and here are my reasons why", and then a rational dialogue could be formed. But the haters don't want a rational dialogue, if that ever happened people on bsn might start thinking that liking the game is a reasonable opinion.
Modifié par BioWareMod01, 02 octobre 2013 - 03:41 .
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You realize that you can only do two missions before the Collectors attack the Normandy, right? So, considering how you already did Legion's loyalty mission, you can only do one more loyalty mission before the Collector attack. And afterwards, you will have to do the remaining loyalty mission, which will result in you losing half the abducted crew when you hit the SM. Kelly Chambers and Donnelly are among those who die.Manc4life7 wrote...
Put GTA V away and jumped back into my first femShep trilogy run, which I had gotten to about 2/3 the way through ME 2 prior to GTA V pulling me away.
Helped Legion take care of the heretics - chose the rewrite option, which I hadn't done before. Plowed through Operation Overlord, and saved David from his **** brother (there really should have been a renegade interrupt option to kneecap David's brother once you see what he did to David - the punch to the face wasn't nearly enough).
Tonight I will be helping Jack blow up her former Cerberus home, then helping Tali redeem herself with the Migrant Fleet. On pace to be launching the SM with a fully loyal squad by the weekend!
Gamer072196 wrote...
You realize that you can only do two missions before the Collectors attack the Normandy, right? So, considering how you already did Legion's loyalty mission, you can only do one more loyalty mission before the Collector attack. And afterwards, you will have to do the remaining loyalty mission, which will result in you losing half the abducted crew when you hit the SM. Kelly Chambers and Donnelly are among those who die.Manc4life7 wrote...
Put GTA V away and jumped back into my first femShep trilogy run, which I had gotten to about 2/3 the way through ME 2 prior to GTA V pulling me away.
Helped Legion take care of the heretics - chose the rewrite option, which I hadn't done before. Plowed through Operation Overlord, and saved David from his **** brother (there really should have been a renegade interrupt option to kneecap David's brother once you see what he did to David - the punch to the face wasn't nearly enough).
Tonight I will be helping Jack blow up her former Cerberus home, then helping Tali redeem herself with the Migrant Fleet. On pace to be launching the SM with a fully loyal squad by the weekend!
If you what to get everyone's loyalty, you will have to do all of them, or all but one, before hitting the Derelict Reaper mission, as that will set a mission count (if you have at least one loyalty mission left and/or you activate Legion) that will only allow you to do two missions (side mission and loyalty mission, or two loyalty missions. If you do the last loyalty mission you need and haven't done a mission between the Reaper IFF and then, it will trigger the Collector attack) or it will activate the Collector attack outright (if you have no loyalty missions to do and didn't wake Legion).Manc4life7 wrote...
Gamer072196 wrote...
You realize that you can only do two missions before the Collectors attack the Normandy, right? So, considering how you already did Legion's loyalty mission, you can only do one more loyalty mission before the Collector attack. And afterwards, you will have to do the remaining loyalty mission, which will result in you losing half the abducted crew when you hit the SM. Kelly Chambers and Donnelly are among those who die.Manc4life7 wrote...
Put GTA V away and jumped back into my first femShep trilogy run, which I had gotten to about 2/3 the way through ME 2 prior to GTA V pulling me away.
Helped Legion take care of the heretics - chose the rewrite option, which I hadn't done before. Plowed through Operation Overlord, and saved David from his **** brother (there really should have been a renegade interrupt option to kneecap David's brother once you see what he did to David - the punch to the face wasn't nearly enough).
Tonight I will be helping Jack blow up her former Cerberus home, then helping Tali redeem herself with the Migrant Fleet. On pace to be launching the SM with a fully loyal squad by the weekend!
Being completely honest here - I had no idea I could sequence things in a such a way as to delay the Collector attack and thereby be able to save crew members (I am still a relative ME noob).
And so you know the Collector's had already hit the Normandy a little while back. How does that trigger mechanism work? Is it "timed" (iow, I can only do a certain # of missions before they hit), or is it tied directly to when I get Legion and the IFF (which makes a lot more sense as I sit here and type this).
Dammit! Oh well, got another reason to go back and play ME2 again
Gamer072196 wrote...
If you what to get everyone's loyalty, you will have to do all of them, or all but one, before hitting the Derelict Reaper mission, as that will set a mission count (if you have at least one loyalty mission left and/or you activate Legion) that will only allow you to do two missions (side mission and loyalty mission, or two loyalty missions. If you do the last loyalty mission you need and haven't done a mission between the Reaper IFF and then, it will trigger the Collector attack) or it will activate the Collector attack outright (if you have no loyalty missions to do and didn't wake Legion).
Well, I don't know the specific Paragon/Renegade scores you need, but it sounds like on your last playthrough, you were just over (or at) the needed Paragon score and this one you were just under it. I tend to save either Jack or Miranda's loyalty mission for one of the very last as well. I usually get my Paragon/Renegade to 97%-99% (it might have to do with me having all the DLCs for ME2) and I have always been able to keep both of them loyal since I started doing that (I had to figure it out the hard way). However, there is a way to get back the loyalty of whoever you sided against in their confrontation. You have to talk to them afterwards and try to convince them that you were just trying to placate who you sided with. You still need to have your Paragon/Renegade be around 95% though I'm pretty sure it is somewhat lower than the requirement for the confrontation.Manc4life7 wrote...
Gamer072196 wrote...
If you what to get everyone's loyalty, you will have to do all of them, or all but one, before hitting the Derelict Reaper mission, as that will set a mission count (if you have at least one loyalty mission left and/or you activate Legion) that will only allow you to do two missions (side mission and loyalty mission, or two loyalty missions. If you do the last loyalty mission you need and haven't done a mission between the Reaper IFF and then, it will trigger the Collector attack) or it will activate the Collector attack outright (if you have no loyalty missions to do and didn't wake Legion).
It makes sense when you spell it out like that - little delay between the Collector attack and you launching the SM means you might actually save all, instead of just a few, of your crew. I just had no idea you could do that.
I typically delay doing the Jack loyalty mission as long as possible to build up the necessary paragon/renegade points to be able to keep both Miranda and Jack loyal in the aftermath (same with Tali / Legion). This time, however it didn't give me the dialog options and my paragon is about 95% full, just like my last play-through, when it did let me use the paragon option to diffuse the argument and keep them both loyal.
Is that particular sequence tied to more than just your paragon/renegade scores?
Nice change of pace!
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