I mean yeah - Phantoms and Banshees can block travel powers like Throw and the like, but they will never block instant-hit powers like Reave.
Praetorians do. I mean you can't even Phase Disruptor them, which takes away like half the damage the Slayer can dish out.
Was that really neccesarry on top of speed, insane durability and wallbanging laz0rs?
So why do Praetorians get a hit-scan power bubble?
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Really? Overkill much?
You know not everyone runs around with Harrier X's or PPR's. Some kits need to use powers.
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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 01:46
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Because Collectors were designed to be the toughest faction, I guess. Couldn't you hit them with phase disruptor if you aimed very near them but made sure you weren't actually targetting them?
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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 01:51
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Praetorians are the easiest collector unit in the game.
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Because Collectors were designed to be the toughest faction, I guess. Couldn't you hit them with phase disruptor if you aimed very near them but made sure you weren't actually targetting them?
Target them or not, the will activate bubble if in the air, which is like always when not shooting laz0rs. Even random bouncing overload from another target will trigger the bubble.
Retarded.
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Praetorians are the easiest collector unit in the game.
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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 01:57
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I'm just here to say: Praymaxians, pls. Phantoms are still the mary-sues of the Mass Effect Universe.
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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 01:57
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FasterThanFTL is actually right though. Collector Troopers have their wacky, stunning melee, Scions can snipe you from virtually anywhere, and there's always a Collector Captain waiting around for you to blow up that Abomination near your teammate so they can finish your team member off. Plus those fking Seeker Swarms they spawn are gamestopping if you're playing anything that's not a weapons class - they do this more effectively than a Praetorian. Besides, how hard is it to get the damn space crab to land so you can throw a power at it? Then once it lands, it stays down for three laser beam runs.
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FasterThanFTL is actually right though. Collector Troopers have their wacky, stunning melee, Scions can snipe you from virtually anywhere, and there's always a Collector Captain waiting around for you to blow up that Abomination near your teammate so they can finish your team member off. Plus those fking Seeker Swarms they spawn are gamestopping if you're playing anything that's not a weapons class - they do this more effectively than a Praetorian. Besides, how hard is it to get the damn space crab to land so you can throw a power at it? Then once it lands, it stays down for three laser beam runs.
With a Slayer it's pretty complicated. It's a pain in the ass to get the to land every time you want to PD them. And then you have to jump back while they are firing laz0rs. And even when they die they will hit you with those laz0rs.
They waste so much time.
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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 02:02
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Praetorians are the easiest collector unit in the game.
Indeed. Just hit 5, click and there's no bubble that cant resist a rocket.
Now, on topic. Yeah, I know, they are really cheap. I mean, as soon as they get close to you they start stunlock to death if not synckill. Super lazers go through walls and they don't even need to hit you in order to take all your hields, health. They're like a giant box that can close an entire path to wherever you want to go. And more BS
But at this point in time, it doesn't matter. I really hate playing against collectors, but if it happens, it happens.
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I think a better question would be the reverse: why are Banshees NOT able to block hit scan powers?
I mean the entire purpose of her alternating biotic attack phases is to require a balance between use of powers (during her charged phase) and weapons (during her defensive phase) to bring her down. This encourages either teamwork between players of different classes, or loadouts and specializations that strike a balance between the two.
I mean the entire purpose of her alternating biotic attack phases is to require a balance between use of powers (during her charged phase) and weapons (during her defensive phase) to bring her down. This encourages either teamwork between players of different classes, or loadouts and specializations that strike a balance between the two.
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CHRrOME wrote...
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Praetorians are the easiest collector unit in the game.
Indeed. Just hit 5, click and there's no bubble that cant resist a rocket.
Now, on topic. Yeah, I know, they are really cheap. I mean, as soon as they get close to you they start stunlock to death if not synckill. Super lazers go through walls and they don't even need to hit you in order to take all your hields, health. They're like a giant box that can close an entire path to wherever you want to go. And more BS
But at this point in time, it doesn't matter. I really hate playing against collectors, but if it happens, it happens.
+1. I'm thinking that it's one of the many bugs. (pun intended)
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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 02:05
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Air Quotes wrote...
FasterThanFTL wrote...
Praetorians are the easiest collector unit in the game.
Cheaters opinion is worthless.
Why are you such a coward to face Collectors?
You only have Collector Mastery x1, what is your excuse to not play against them. Are they too hard for your limited skill level?
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I think a better question would be the reverse: why are Banshees NOT able to block hit scan powers?
I mean the entire purpose of her alternating biotic attack phases is to require a balance between use of powers (during her charged phase) and weapons (during her defensive phase) to bring her down. This encourages either teamwork between players of different classes, or loadouts and specializations that strike a balance between the two.
So that damage dealing classes could still use SOME of their powers?
Weapons are already NR.1 thing in this game, sans grenades.
With Praetorians even random hits will trigger the bubble which is a stupid design. It's unavoidable. Any grenade, any splash and he's invicible for 5 seconds.
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FasterThanFTL wrote...
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Praetorians are the easiest collector unit in the game.
Cheaters opinion is worthless.
Why are you such a coward to face Collectors?
You only have Collector Mastery x1, what is your excuse to not play against them.
I've been playing vs Collectors all day with a Slayer. Oh and as you can see my manifest is public, not like yours. So STFU.
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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 02:08
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It's probably a bug.
I'd actually say the Praetorian is the hardest Collector unit.
Troopers, Captains, and Husks all die if you look at them funny like any low tier units. The Captain might do a lot of damage and bypass shield gate(fun fact: Only the Geth Trooper fires fast enough for a gold level shield gate to absorb multiple hits from the same unit) but he dies incredibly fast too.
The Scion is just really easy to fake out once you know he's there.
I'd actually say the Praetorian is the hardest Collector unit.
Troopers, Captains, and Husks all die if you look at them funny like any low tier units. The Captain might do a lot of damage and bypass shield gate(fun fact: Only the Geth Trooper fires fast enough for a gold level shield gate to absorb multiple hits from the same unit) but he dies incredibly fast too.
The Scion is just really easy to fake out once you know he's there.
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Praetorians are the easiest collector unit in the game.
+1 yes they can kill you with buttlazerand swarm missiles, but you can absolutely conttol them. the most difficult part about praetorians is not allowing yourself to get flanked by them because they will do that quickly if you allow them too, other than that praetorians are easily manageable.
personal opinion their power bubble is necessary balanced to keep them from getting slaughtered.
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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 02:10
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Play ME2. Then tell me if the ME3 MP Praetorian is even close.
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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 02:12
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Cyonan wrote...
It's probably a bug.
I'd actually say the Praetorian is the hardest Collector unit.
Troopers, Captains, and Husks all die if you look at them funny like any low tier units. The Captain might do a lot of damage and bypass shield gate(fun fact: Only the Geth Trooper fires fast enough for a gold level shield gate to absorb multiple hits from the same unit) but he dies incredibly fast too.
The Scion is just really easy to fake out once you know he's there.
ignorant comment, go solo thunderdome and you will learn scions will rip you apart harder, faster then praetorians (or geth primes) every could if you dont account for where they are at and fail to get in soft cover...
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Cyonan wrote...
It's probably a bug.
I'd actually say the Praetorian is the hardest Collector unit.
Troopers, Captains, and Husks all die if you look at them funny like any low tier units. The Captain might do a lot of damage and bypass shield gate(fun fact: Only the Geth Trooper fires fast enough for a gold level shield gate to absorb multiple hits from the same unit) but he dies incredibly fast too.
The Scion is just really easy to fake out once you know he's there.
Unfortunately, the combination of all these things is what makes Collectors so difficult for most.
Big heads means easier headshots though.
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Play ME2. Then tell me if the ME3 MP Praetorian is even close.
It's not even close.
but mostly because the ME2 Praetorian was really easy to beat =P
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Air Quotes wrote...
FasterThanFTL wrote...
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Praetorians are the easiest collector unit in the game.
Cheaters opinion is worthless.
Why are you such a coward to face Collectors?
You only have Collector Mastery x1, what is your excuse to not play against them.
I've been playing vs Collectors all day with a Slayer. Oh and as you can see my manifest is public, not like yours. So STFU.
But the Collectors have been available since Retaliation DLC which was 9 months ago, why were you so afraid of them for so long?
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Praetorians are the easiest collector unit in the game.
+1 yes they can kill you with buttlazerand swarm missiles, but you can absolutely conttol them. the most difficult part about praetorians is not allowing yourself to get flanked by them because they will do that quickly if you allow them too, other than that praetorians are easily manageable.
personal opinion their power bubble is necessary balanced to keep them from getting slaughtered.
Power bubble maybe neccessary. But why hit scan as-well? You can't Reave stack, you can't PD, you can't throw grenades anywhere near them.
I'm talking about power classes, not gun classes. Gun classes are easy, just shoot face.
