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So why do Praetorians get a hit-scan power bubble?


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DHKany wrote...

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Play ME2. Then tell me if the ME3 MP Praetorian is even close.


The ME2 Scions were actually a bigger threat than the ME2 Praetorian.


QFT.
Fkin teammates dying every 2 seconds and their BS shockwave attacks.

FFS


I wasted a lot of medi-gel on Horizon because my teammates can't take direction.

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I'd rather fight Collectors than Cerberus anyday...

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FasterThanFTL wrote...

Praetorians are the easiest collector unit in the game.

I'm inclined to agree here. Although Troopers and Scions are pretty easy too.

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IamZAE wrote...

FTL just thunderdome airquotes already, please the people wanna see this.

you too are like floyd maywheather and manny paqiaou

The question is who's the Asian powerhouse here.

Speaking as an Asian I can certify that AQ has achieved at least 50% Asian-ness.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 13 juillet 2013 - 03:14 .


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prostheticlimbs wrote...

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I wasted a lot of medi-gel on Horizon because my teammates can't take direction.

IMHO the only really tough Scion was the last one during the SM (when you're under the bubble), even on Insanity.


Edit: I agree with FTFTL on the difficulty of the different Collector units, but this epeen war is pretty hilarious.

Modifié par FatherOfPearl, 13 juillet 2013 - 03:18 .


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iOnlySignIn wrote...

The question is who's the Asian powerhouse here.

Speaking as an Asian I can certify that AQ has achieved at least 50% Asian-ness.


Air Quotes is Donnie Yen and FTL is Jet Lee.  Jet Lee does more wire fu.(think coalesced). 

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I think it's quite comical that a Banshee can block a grenade if you throw it at her.. but look at the ground and then throw and she takes full damage.. they did this because people could cheese past the power absorption of phantoms and Banshees.

If anything, those power blocking animations NOT triggering for (hitscan) powers for Banshees and phantoms is an oversight and wasn't intended.

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Has anyone noticed the praetorian barrier being activated while it's on the ground in attack mode? What's that about?

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FasterThanFTL wrote...

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Praetorians are the easiest collector unit in the game.

 

Cheaters opinion is worthless. 


Why are you such a coward to face Collectors?

You only have Collector Mastery x1, what is your excuse to not play against them. Are they too hard for your limited skill level?

Burn

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FasterThanFTL wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Praetorians are the easiest collector unit in the game.

 

Cheaters opinion is worthless. 


Why are you such a coward to face Collectors?

You only have Collector Mastery x1, what is your excuse to not play against them. Are they too hard for your limited skill level?


I only have Collector Mastery x2, mostly because I solo 80% of my games and don't really feel like playing Collectors solo, tbh (I have but not with any regularity.)  If you look at er coots solo mastery numbers, they're even higher than mine (35x solo mastery :blink:.)  So it sort of stands to reason that's why he doesn't have a lot of Collector points.  

Of course I don't even have Biotic God despite having 36,000 challenge points, so I might be not be the most 'well-rounded' individual either. 

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b00g13man wrote...

Has anyone noticed the praetorian barrier being activated while it's on the ground in attack mode? What's that about?


I would like an answer to this too. Maybe lag?

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Kalas747 wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

The question is who's the Asian powerhouse here.

Speaking as an Asian I can certify that AQ has achieved at least 50% Asian-ness.


Air Quotes is Donnie Yen and FTL is Jet Lee.  Jet Lee does more wire fu.(think coalesced). 


His wire fu is insignificant compared to the power of my 9000 rounds per minute and clip size Avenger with infinite ammo that does 500 damage per shot.

(I might have done that in SP once just to see what happens with a rate of fire that high)

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Air Quotes wrote...

prostheticlimbs wrote...

FasterThanFTL is actually right though. Collector Troopers have their wacky, stunning melee, Scions can snipe you from virtually anywhere, and there's always a Collector Captain waiting around for you to blow up that Abomination near your teammate so they can finish your team member off. Plus those fking Seeker Swarms they spawn are gamestopping if you're playing anything that's not a weapons class - they do this more effectively than a Praetorian. Besides, how hard is it to get the damn space crab to land so you can throw a power at it? Then once it lands, it stays down for three laser beam runs.

 

With a Slayer it's pretty complicated. It's a pain in the ass to get the to land every time you want to PD them. And then you have to jump back while they are firing laz0rs. And even when they die they will hit you with those laz0rs. 

They waste so much time. 

That's what teammates while PuGing and clean up missiles at the end of the wave while soloing are for. I just go kill other things. I don't have time for their ridiculous health pool. Maybe if you let your teammates keep wasting their time with it, they'll realize that it only puts its barrier up while it's flying.

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Nicegil2012 wrote...

b00g13man wrote...

Has anyone noticed the praetorian barrier being activated while it's on the ground in attack mode? What's that about?


I would like an answer to this too. Maybe lag?

I don't think it's lag since it happens to everyone. It mostly occurs after you knock a praetorian out of the air when it's flying instead of letting it land itself.

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I've had it occur when it lands on it's own accord as well, so I'm just going to label it a bug and call it a day.

OT: The Praetorian would get destroyed otherwise. That bubble gives it a fighting chance to close in on competent players. But yeah, Pugs do seem to set that off religiously. You should just kill other stuff while your teammates distract her. That's what I do, and it normally works out.

Personally, It's the Scions I think need complaining about. Those dudes are stacked. I bet one would easily destroy a Prime. Also, I dunno if this is just me, but y'know that they hit you three times with their 2-hit melee attack? Wtf is up with that?!? It's like...they'll bring their arm back, and my guy will reel back + lose shields as if he'd been slapped, giving the Scion ample time to connect with both hits, taking down a metric ****-ton of shields/health. Bit of a dirty trick, that is...

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Phantoms are the cheapest enemies. Preatorians come close, but phantoms edge them out. Constant flipping, insane on host DR, can't be grabbed, can't be stunned by many powers. They are the epitome of design stupidity.

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oO Stryfe Oo wrote...

I've had it occur when it lands on it's own accord as well, so I'm just going to label it a bug and call it a day.

OT: The Praetorian would get destroyed otherwise. That bubble gives it a fighting chance to close in on competent players. But yeah, Pugs do seem to set that off religiously. You should just kill other stuff while your teammates distract her. That's what I do, and it normally works out.

Personally, It's the Scions I think need complaining about. Those dudes are stacked. I bet one would easily destroy a Prime. Also, I dunno if this is just me, but y'know that they hit you three times with their 2-hit melee attack? Wtf is up with that?!? It's like...they'll bring their arm back, and my guy will reel back + lose shields as if he'd been slapped, giving the Scion ample time to connect with both hits, taking down a metric ****-ton of shields/health. Bit of a dirty trick, that is...

 

I'm not complaining. 

I'm just saying there's no consistency. If you have 2 enemies that get into bubble mode only when attacked by travel-time powers, but not hitscan - don't make an enemy that's invulnerable to both and slap more health and armor to it. How is a new player suppose to know?

He can notice that a Phantom for example doesn't block his Reave or Overload, but does block his Warp or Throw. Banshee - same. Praetorian blocks both. And when he can be attacked with powers - he attacks at the same time with laz0rs - forcing the player into hard cover. Banshee only throws slow Warps that can be dodged or even absorbed, Phantom can't attack in the bubble. 


No consistency, no explanation, no balance. 

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Just Thunderdome already

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MasterReefa wrote...

Just Thunderdome already


He wont Thunderdome because he is afraid of me more than he is afraid of the Collectors.

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Air Quotes wrote...
I'm not complaining. 

I'm just saying there's no consistency. If you have 2 enemies that get into bubble mode only when attacked by travel-time powers, but not hitscan - don't make an enemy that's invulnerable to both and slap more health and armor to it. How is a new player suppose to know?

He can notice that a Phantom for example doesn't block his Reave or Overload, but does block his Warp or Throw. Banshee - same. Praetorian blocks both. And when he can be attacked with powers - he attacks at the same time with laz0rs - forcing the player into hard cover. Banshee only throws slow Warps that can be dodged or even absorbed, Phantom can't attack in the bubble. 


No consistency, no explanation, no balance. 


To be fair there doesn't really need to be consistancy. and a lack of them being the same does not automatically mean a lack of balance.

When new to a game, it shouldn't be assumed that because two things are similar that they are identical.

Seeing as how different factions are different that also means that things can be adjusted.

Much like how our Asari and Turian Infiltrators have a different evolution 6 that are not 25% damage boosts like the standard Sniper Rifle Tactical Cloak.

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What's the point of this thread exactly?

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Knockingbr4in wrote...

What's the point of this thread exactly?


I'm pretty sure it's for some people to act like thunderdome means something.

(spoiler alert: it doesn't)

Oh, and sometimes we talk about Praetorians or something.

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Knockingbr4in wrote...

What's the point of this thread exactly?


AirQuotes gets his ass handed to him by the Collectors and he wants a few shoulders to cry on. :crying:

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FasterThanFTL wrote...

Knockingbr4in wrote...

What's the point of this thread exactly?


AirQuotes gets his ass handed to him by the Collectors and he wants a few shoulders to cry on. :crying:

Accurate evaluation