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So why do Praetorians get a hit-scan power bubble?

Débuté par Guest_Air Quotes_* , juil. 13 2013 01:42

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#176
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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 05:36

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Master-Steel wrote...

This is how you make sure they dont bubble:
You walk up to the pretorian while its flying.
It will land; It cant bubble while on the ground.
Next you back off so you dont get synced.
It will start shooting beams at you so take cover or dodge the beams.
Now you can do w/e to it.
This is also how you stop it from chasing you.
Dont stand next to the pretorian while its walking.
Shoot the pratorian in its groin/mouth to get headshot damage.

 

Old news. I know that. But it works only 1 vs 1 when you have plenty of time. 

#177
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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 05:40

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Gee Air Quotes, you sure are big on nerfing enemies, buffing character melee and who knows what else? ... You don't have to play a higher difficulty levels if it's too hard for you. OP the heck out of everything on Bronze all you like. There should be no shame if this is what turns you on. So please leave the extra challenge for those that seek it.

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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 05:45

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Sinful Force wrote...

Gee Air Quotes, you sure are big on nerfing enemies, buffing character melee and who knows what else? ... You don't have to play a higher difficulty levels if it's too hard for you. OP the heck out of everything on Bronze all you like. There should be no shame if this is what turns you on. So please leave the extra challenge for those that seek it.


That's a very inaccurate generalization, so much that it missed the original point of the thread.

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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 05:46

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Sinful Force wrote...

Gee Air Quotes, you sure are big on nerfing enemies, buffing character melee and who knows what else? ... You don't have to play a higher difficulty levels if it's too hard for you. OP the heck out of everything on Bronze all you like. There should be no shame if this is what turns you on. So please leave the extra challenge for those that seek it.

 

LOL. This is not about nerfing. This is about overstacking on one character like they did with Phantoms. Bubbles on Phantoms and Banshees can be prevented. On Praetorians - any accidental **** triggers them.  

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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 05:47

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Sinful Force wrote...

Gee Air Quotes, you sure are big on nerfing enemies, buffing character melee and who knows what else? ... You don't have to play a higher difficulty levels if it's too hard for you. OP the heck out of everything on Bronze all you like. There should be no shame if this is what turns you on. So please leave the extra challenge for those that seek it.


lol. this thread....this thread.

#181
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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 06:21

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Cyonan wrote...

It's probably a bug.

I'd actually say the Praetorian is the hardest Collector unit.

Troopers, Captains, and Husks all die if you look at them funny like any low tier units. The Captain might do a lot of damage and bypass shield gate(fun fact: Only the Geth Trooper fires fast enough for a gold level shield gate to absorb multiple hits from the same unit) but he dies incredibly fast too.

The Scion is just really easy to fake out once you know he's there.

all of this.

and yes OP, praetorians are cheap, but thats why i dont play collectors if i can help it.
dosent help matters that im on the ps3 also.....:unsure:

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#182
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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 06:29

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Did anyone mention that Reave goes through Crab bubbles?

#183
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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 06:30

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me0120 wrote...

Did anyone mention that Reave goes through Crab bubbles?

 

And gets canceled. 

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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 06:33

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Air Quotes wrote...

me0120 wrote...

Did anyone mention that Reave goes through Crab bubbles?

 

And gets canceled. 


But still works when you use it after the bubble goes up, which means it goes through the bubble.

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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 06:34

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me0120 wrote...

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me0120 wrote...

Did anyone mention that Reave goes through Crab bubbles?

 

And gets canceled. 


But still works when you use it after the bubble goes up, which means it goes through the bubble.

 

And gets canceled. All DOT gets canceled

#186
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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 06:38

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Air Quotes wrote...

me0120 wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

me0120 wrote...

Did anyone mention that Reave goes through Crab bubbles?

 

And gets canceled. 


But still works when you use it after the bubble goes up, which means it goes through the bubble.

 

And gets canceled. All DOT gets canceled


If you Reave first and the bubble goes up the DOT is lost. If it puts the bubble up then you Reave the DOT works. Either that or I imagined the Praetorians losing barrier and armor on my solos multiple times.

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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 06:43

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me0120 wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

me0120 wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

me0120 wrote...

Did anyone mention that Reave goes through Crab bubbles?

 

And gets canceled. 


But still works when you use it after the bubble goes up, which means it goes through the bubble.

 

And gets canceled. All DOT gets canceled


If you Reave first and the bubble goes up the DOT is lost. If it puts the bubble up then you Reave the DOT works. Either that or I imagined the Praetorians losing barrier and armor on my solos multiple times.


No, AirQuotes is correct.  Very evident with in my solos and when I host.  Dark Channel --> Bubble goes up --> Bubble goes down (due to whatever, but still well-within my DC's expiration) --> Throw = no BE.

#188
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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 06:48

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tetsutsuru wrote...

me0120 wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

me0120 wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

me0120 wrote...

Did anyone mention that Reave goes through Crab bubbles?

 

And gets canceled. 


But still works when you use it after the bubble goes up, which means it goes through the bubble.

 

And gets canceled. All DOT gets canceled


If you Reave first and the bubble goes up the DOT is lost. If it puts the bubble up then you Reave the DOT works. Either that or I imagined the Praetorians losing barrier and armor on my solos multiple times.


No, AirQuotes is correct.  Very evident with in my solos and when I host.  Dark Channel --> Bubble goes up --> Bubble goes down (due to whatever, but still well-within my DC's expiration) --> Throw = no BE.


REAVE. Not Dark Channel. And I never said you got BE's just that the DOT worked.

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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 06:48

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tetsutsuru wrote...

me0120 wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

me0120 wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

me0120 wrote...

Did anyone mention that Reave goes through Crab bubbles?

 

And gets canceled. 


But still works when you use it after the bubble goes up, which means it goes through the bubble.

 

And gets canceled. All DOT gets canceled


If you Reave first and the bubble goes up the DOT is lost. If it puts the bubble up then you Reave the DOT works. Either that or I imagined the Praetorians losing barrier and armor on my solos multiple times.


No, AirQuotes is correct.  Very evident with in my solos and when I host.  Dark Channel --> Bubble goes up --> Bubble goes down (due to whatever, but still well-within my DC's expiration) --> Throw = no BE.


Dark Channed does not go through bubble. Reave does.

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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 06:49

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me0120 wrote...

If you Reave first and the bubble goes up the DOT is lost. If it puts the bubble up then you Reave the DOT works. Either that or I imagined the Praetorians losing barrier and armor on my solos multiple times.


The DoT is cancelled when bubble is up period. You imagined it.

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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 07:03

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VaultingFrog wrote...

me0120 wrote...

If you Reave first and the bubble goes up the DOT is lost. If it puts the bubble up then you Reave the DOT works. Either that or I imagined the Praetorians losing barrier and armor on my solos multiple times.


The DoT is cancelled when bubble is up period. You imagined it.


You are very wrong for telling me I'm wrong.

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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 07:20

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P.S. I hope you guys feel stupid.

REAVE CANNOT BE STOPPED




Also, it's ridiculously hard playing and holding your phone at the same time. :lol:

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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 08:54

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me0120 wrote...

P.S. I hope you guys feel stupid.

REAVE CANNOT BE STOPPED

Also, it's ridiculously hard playing and holding your phone at the same time. :lol:

It is hard to see, but he doesn't take any damage until after it looks like he turned off the bubble. :shrug:

Oh and I got back from the range and expected to see this AQ vs FTL thing fully resolved! :wizard:

Modifié par capn233, 13 juillet 2013 - 08:56 .

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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 09:00

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capn233 wrote...

me0120 wrote...

P.S. I hope you guys feel stupid.

REAVE CANNOT BE STOPPED

Also, it's ridiculously hard playing and holding your phone at the same time. :lol:

It is hard to see, but he doesn't take any damage until after it looks like he turned off the bubble. :shrug:


You've been spoiled by good visuals if you can't see it started with barriers. Besides, how does it lose a bar of armor immediately after the bubble if it hadnt been being damaged before that. If the non believers need me to set up a camera I can.

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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 09:03

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Bioware is unable to make the game difficult without fake difficulty. The whole Collector fraction is a bad joke(i thought power users are punished enough in this game,but no). Especially possesed Scions with their long range cluster grenades...

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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 09:16

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me0120 wrote...

You've been spoiled by good visuals if you can't see it started with barriers. Besides, how does it lose a bar of armor immediately after the bubble if it hadnt been being damaged before that. If the non believers need me to set up a camera I can.

The contrast is funky, it looks like armor the whole time to me.  I thougth the flicker was an artifact, but if that is the barrier first, then ok.

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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 09:20

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Because Bioware stopped giving a toss about proper game balance some time back in 2011.

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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 09:20

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me0120 wrote...

P.S. I hope you guys feel stupid.

REAVE CANNOT BE STOPPED




Also, it's ridiculously hard playing and holding your phone at the same time. :lol:

I love how you went out of your way to prove me wrong. Congratz on that dude. Also I don't see reave affecting barriers or armor until after the bubble is gone but meh its crappy images anyways. Not worth arguing over.

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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 09:21

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VaultingFrog wrote...

I love how you went out of your way to prove me wrong. Congratz on that dude. Also I don't see reave affecting barriers or armor until after the bubble is gone but meh its crappy images anyways. Not worth arguing over.

It is, it is just really hard to see.

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Posté 13 juillet 2013 - 09:24

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Air Quotes wrote...


LOL. This is not about nerfing. This is about overstacking on one character like they did with Phantoms. Bubbles on Phantoms and Banshees can be prevented. On Praetorians - any accidental **** triggers them.  


Bubble on a phantom is actually usefull and balanced because they cant move while they have it. The Praetorian isnt even slowed down. Pure fake difficulty.
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