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[Naltair]

 Why is it that some characters are shrouded in controversy and obsession and others not so much, is it because they are possible or confirmed romance plots?  Or is it some intrinsic quality of their character designs that seems to polarize people?

I am curious.

[Arrtis]

people overreact and love drama.

[Cheita_Corps]

Arrtis wrote...

people overreact and love drama.

Yeah I think I'l go with this answer.

[DeathCultArm]

Popularity. Some characters only applt to certian people. And...bias...

[Naltair]

Well I do concur I think some people overreact to a great deal.

[DeathCultArm]

A GREAT deal.

[jlb524]

Indeed.

[Darth Sithari]

Arrtis wrote...

people overreact and love drama.

And they're fickle and whine when they don't get their way.

Sorry, it's true.

Modifié par Darth Sithari, 18 janvier 2010 - 06:12 .

[Invalidcode]

Tali being a LI was the wish of many many many fans, and it seems it will become true it is only natural to have a lot of people talking about it.

Garrus is pretty much the same case but he got a smaller fan base than Tali.



SuZe is pretty unique and exotic character, not to mention bald & attractive. How can people not talk about her?!



I don't get Thane myself but he must have charm of his own...

Since the game isn't out yet, there really isn't too much to talk about besides characters/LI. When the game is out we will see a lot more discussion about story, game play, etc.

[jlb524]

Invalidcode wrote...

Since the game isn't out yet, there really isn't too much to talk about besides characters/LI. When the game is out we will see a lot more discussion about story, game play, etc.

This.  What the heck else can we talk about one week before game release?

Next week, you'll see different threads.  Like, 'How do I kill Grunt in the suicide mission?', 'Where do I find Mordin?', 'HELP!!!! Where do I get fish for my fish tank?', and  'Miranda doesn't want to bang me what do I do???'.

[DeathCultArm]

Those topics don't sound much better....

[Darth Sithari]

jlb524 wrote...

Next week, you'll see different threads.  Like, 'Miranda doesn't want to bang me what do I do???'.

Hey hey hey hey HEY, that is a SERIOUS issue!

[Arrtis]

I have a question what purpose do these forums serve?

[jlb524]

Darth Sithari wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Next week, you'll see different threads.  Like, 'Miranda doesn't want to bang me what do I do???'.

Hey hey hey hey HEY, that is a SERIOUS issue!

It's all relative.

I think that's a non issue.

Why Subject Zero isn't bi?  That's a SERIOUS issue man!

[Cheita_Corps]

Arrtis wrote...

I have a question what purpose do these forums serve?

My personal amusement.

You, all of you, are merely here for entertainment purposes.

[Invalidcode]

DeathCultArm wrote...

Those topics don't sound much better....

Well, it is inevitable. But at the same time there will be some very good topic/discussion, whatever they will be. Just the natural of a game forum.

[DeathCultArm]

Darth Sithari wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Next week, you'll see different threads.  Like, 'Miranda doesn't want to bang me what do I do???'.

Hey hey hey hey HEY, that is a SERIOUS issue!

[Naltair]

Invalidcode wrote...

DeathCultArm wrote...

Those topics don't sound much better....

Well, it is inevitable. But at the same time there will be some very good topic/discussion, whatever they will be. Just the natural of a game forum.

One can only hope

Of course I know when the game is out I won't be on the forums much if at all.

[Rip504]

They are amazing characters with amazing va they deserve to be talked about...



Diff ppl Diff opinions =many diff threads.

[Marlina]

Manuel would be cool. He'd be like "I TOLD YA I WASN'T CRAZY, I TOLD YA!"
EDIT: NEVERMIND, I thought this was the other thread. And since the forum doesn't allow me to delete my posts... 

Modifié par Marlina, 18 janvier 2010 - 07:15 .

[Frotality]

Naltair wrote...

 Why is it that some characters are shrouded in controversy and obsession and others not so much, is it because they are possible or confirmed romance plots?  Or is it some intrinsic quality of their character designs that seems to polarize people?

I am curious.

there is a venerable cult of people who want to romance tali.

subject zero had an awful, cringe:pinched:-worthy reveal trailer that many people flipped out over.

damn near every freakin announcement had some controversy or obsession spouted across 50 different threads. its not so much teh polarizing nature of them, but the polarized nature of the forumites.

[Scandigeek]

Ok about Tali, let me first explain this with a few of TV Tropes links

Article one,

Article two 

article two is a a subtrope of this one. which helps to explain it further.

I like playing mysterious characters in table top rpgs, but I've learned that olther players hate it when I do that.

People want to see faces, because faces are the best way to read someone, you can tell a lot about what a person is feeling by looking at there face, especially the eyes.   Faces are what make the most impression in a persons mind. 

So when you cover that face up it takes away that element we identify with living breathing beings and less of a human relationship then say a relationship with your toaster.    Also it tends to make that person look suscpcious and distrustful, because then they got something to hide.   

Now this is great for faceless mooks, because we don't want or need to care about those people, we don't care about their motivations, their needs, wants, or desires, we just want to shoot them.  

Also major villains can get a pass here as well because the lack of the face adds to their sinister look. 

It doesn't work so well with important backgroung characters or protoganist however,  because we spend a great deal of time with those characters, so things get personal, and when things get personal, you need a face.   

Now you can build up a dramatic moment by making the audience wait and build up the ancipation, thus pulling a Samus or in the case of Tali, a Hawkgirl.  But if you make the audience wait to long they're going to get frustrated.   And yeah it might happen in ME3, but thats another $60 people have to shell out, when they were expecting it in ME 2. 

So to sum it all up if you want your audience to be emotionally invested in a character like Tali, then they need to be able to to eventually see her face.  A romance scene is a big emotional investment.  Withhold that from them and Shepard might as well be making love to a kitchen appliance. 

Modifié par Scandigeek, 27 février 2010 - 07:54 .

[Getorex]

Naltair wrote...

 Why is it that some characters are shrouded in controversy and obsession and others not so much, is it because they are possible or confirmed romance plots?  Or is it some intrinsic quality of their character designs that seems to polarize people?

I am curious.

As a moderate Tali partisan... Tali has a certain mystery to her due to the fact you never really get to "see" her.  Thus she is an oracle for people to make her whatever they wish.

Plus, her character truly is one of the most sympathetically written and played of the bunch...and has history with ME1. 

I say this as someone who has played through and romanced each of the three possibles in ME2.  In the end, my favorite tends to be Tali for the reasons stated above. 

[Getorex]

On Miranda now..."doing" her on ME2 is as close as I'll ever get in this lifetime to having Yvonne Strahovsky, whom I think is drop dead smoking hot so that character is easy.