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David7204 wrote...

I should point out that if absolutely nothing else, DA:O had half the animation work thanks to a silent protagonist and something like six years of development.

IMO it does facial expressions much better than ME

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DeinonSlayer wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

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It's not so bad on Xbox. The main thing you'll miss from PC is an isometric type of camera mode. And hotkeys. But it has a pulldown menu that works similar to Mass Effect, so you don't need the hotkeys.


But no mods fixing all those damn dialogue bugs on Xbox D: 

Seriously DAO has some terrible dialogue bugs. Like the Leliana ninjaing the hell out of my poor HN. She's all "That time under the stars! How could you cheat on me with Alistair" 

My poor warden's all "Wat.":blink:


Soooo, I should get DA:O UE for PC?

That's what I did. Comes with a buttload of DLC. Never regretted it.

I haven't even gotten around to Awakening yet.


I'm still unsure if I wanna get for PS3

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...Stupid tiny Xbox hard-drives, no DLC for Steelcan.

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AresKeith wrote...

Soooo, I should get DA:O UE for PC?


Yesss do it!

Steelcan wrote...
I got her in a threesome with Isabela, while roimancing Morrigan.........[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/pinched.png[/smilie]


LOL

You player you. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie] I assume you left poor Morrigan at camp. (Since she pretty much glares Izzy down if she's in the party XD).

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Steelcan wrote...

David7204 wrote...

I should point out that if absolutely nothing else, DA:O had half the animation work thanks to a silent protagonist and something like six years of development.

IMO it does facial expressions much better than ME


On anyone other than the PC. DA series character creator sucks. Still doesn't suck as hard as ME's (and DA's can become somewhat bearable thanks to mods).


Still don't see how they made ME2's CC EVEN WORSE. HOW.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
I got her in a threesome with Isabela, while roimancing Morrigan.........[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/pinched.png[/smilie]


LOL

You player you. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie] I assume you left poor Morrigan at camp. (Since she pretty much glares Izzy down if she's in the party XD).

  yep, also slept with, Gehyna(?), Iona, several professionals.:innocent:

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David7204 wrote...

I should point out that if absolutely nothing else, DA:O had half the animation work thanks to a silent protagonist and something like six years of development.

I thought I'd be annoyed by a silent protagonist, but I actually liked what I got for that trade-in (more choices, more banter, branching narrative) more than what I lost. I'd prefer waiting for better quality over a rushed release any day.

I can't speak for DA2; never played it. I assume dialogue choices were cut down when a voiced PC was added? I know there's no option of origin...

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 17 juillet 2013 - 12:49 .


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Ryzaki wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

David7204 wrote...

I should point out that if absolutely nothing else, DA:O had half the animation work thanks to a silent protagonist and something like six years of development.

IMO it does facial expressions much better than ME


On anyone other than the PC. DA series character creator sucks. Still doesn't suck as hard as ME's (and DA's can become somewhat bearable thanks to mods).


Still don't see how they made ME2's CC EVEN WORSE. HOW.

My only complaint was that beards forced you to have no cheek volume

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Steelcan wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
I got her in a threesome with Isabela, while roimancing Morrigan.........[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/pinched.png[/smilie]


LOL

You player you. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie] I assume you left poor Morrigan at camp. (Since she pretty much glares Izzy down if she's in the party XD).

  yep, also slept with, Gehyna(?), Iona, several professionals.:innocent:


Those don't count lol :P

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DeinonSlayer wrote...

David7204 wrote...

I should point out that if absolutely nothing else, DA:O had half the animation work thanks to a silent protagonist and something like six years of development.

I thought I'd be annoyed by a silent protagonist, but I actually liked what I got for that trade-in more than what I lost. I'd prefer waiting for better quality over a rushed release any day.

I can't speak for DA2; never played it. I assume dialogue choices were cut down when a voiced PC was added? I know there's no option of origin...

Male Hawke at least has pretty solid VA, and a ME style conversation wheel, augmented with "call on companions" "lie" "bribe" etc...

It doesn't have the number of options that DA:O has, but sarcastic Hawke is worth it.

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Steelcan wrote...
yep, also slept with, Gehyna(?), Iona, several professionals.:innocent:


XD Really got around eh? Gheyna better be glad that GWs have such terrible swimmers. XD I think you can sleep with her and still have her marry Camelen (or vice versa but god not without mods cause that face *shivers*) it's pretty funny if you manage that.

The pearl in DAO so so much better than the Blooming Rose. BR was just boring and not nearly as funny as the pearl.

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Steelcan wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

David7204 wrote...

I should point out that if absolutely nothing else, DA:O had half the animation work thanks to a silent protagonist and something like six years of development.

IMO it does facial expressions much better than ME


On anyone other than the PC. DA series character creator sucks. Still doesn't suck as hard as ME's (and DA's can become somewhat bearable thanks to mods).

Still don't see how they made ME2's CC EVEN WORSE. HOW.

My only complaint was that beards forced you to have no cheek volume

The next Mass Effect character creator needs to let you rotate 360 degrees (Origins does, not sure why later titles haven't).

I've been burned by Cheek Gaunt so many times...

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Ryzaki wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
yep, also slept with, Gehyna(?), Iona, several professionals.:innocent:


XD Really got around eh? Gheyna better be glad that GWs have such terrible swimmers. XD I think you can sleep with her and still have her marry Camelen (or vice versa but god not without mods cause that face *shivers*) it's pretty funny if you manage that.

The pearl in DAO so so much better than the Blooming Rose. BR was just boring and not nearly as funny as the pearl.


The dwarf in drag... oh god, the dwarf in drag...

:alien:

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I'm still unsure if I wanna get for PS3

I bought the Ultimate Edition for my PS3 about a year ago for only 19.99.

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My only complaint was that beards forced you to have no cheek volume


Ah I was never fond of the beards. I love the stubble in ME (can't make a character without it) but the DA stubble is...meh. DA2's stubble is better but not by much.

Then again 99% of my characters end up female in DAO anyway so no big loss to me.

I loved aggressive Hawke though. He's so hilariously over the top rage mode.

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DeinonSlayer wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

David7204 wrote...

I should point out that if absolutely nothing else, DA:O had half the animation work thanks to a silent protagonist and something like six years of development.

IMO it does facial expressions much better than ME


On anyone other than the PC. DA series character creator sucks. Still doesn't suck as hard as ME's (and DA's can become somewhat bearable thanks to mods).

Still don't see how they made ME2's CC EVEN WORSE. HOW.

My only complaint was that beards forced you to have no cheek volume

The next Mass Effect character creator needs to let you rotate 360 degrees (Origins does, not sure why later titles haven't).

I've been burned by Cheek Gaunt so many times...

I've finally after scores of playthroughs found a face to my liking.  His nose is a bit large, and his face a little too wide, but IMO he looks better than any CustomShep I've seen

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I should also mention DA2 with its voiced protag is also pretty reactive regarding your companions. You can be an absolute ass to them and they will hate you right back. Including the poster character, who can miss all of Act 3 because you sold her out.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
My only complaint was that beards forced you to have no cheek volume


Ah I was never fond of the beards. I love the stubble in ME (can't make a character without it) but the DA stubble is...meh. DA2's stubble is better but not by much.

Then again 99% of my characters end up female in DAO anyway so no big loss to me.

I loved aggressive Hawke though. He's so hilariously over the top rage mode.

Sarcastic Hawke, I love the one to the Viscount........

********SPOLIER FOR DA:2********
"At least tomorrow can only get better"
"my son is dead, forgive me if I don't find the humor in that"



oh I am evil

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The dwarf in drag... oh god, the dwarf in drag...

:alien:

[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]
Also Oghren walking in on femWarden with a female prostitute.

DeinonSlayer wrote...
The next Mass Effect character creator needs to let you rotate 360 degrees (Origins does, not sure why later titles haven't).

I've been burned by Cheek Gaunt so many times...


Yeah I have no idea why they don't give full rotation. Realizing your characters cheeks are too puffy/gaunt is aggravating. Ended up with Cerub cheeks after like 12 times of trying to get it right and just went screw it. Those cherub cheeks bothered me the whole intro.

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themikefest wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

I'm still unsure if I wanna get for PS3

I bought the Ultimate Edition for my PS3 about a year ago for only 19.99.


any bugs, like on Xbox?

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jtav wrote...

I should also mention DA2 with its voiced protag is also pretty reactive regarding your companions. You can be an absolute ass to them and they will hate you right back. Including the poster character, who can miss all of Act 3 because you sold her out.


One of those few things I liked about DA2. 

One of those things I really wish was added into Mass Effect. I'd love to have a conflicting relationship with several crew-members in ME3. Some of them will absolutely hate my Shepard.

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AresKeith wrote...

themikefest wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

I'm still unsure if I wanna get for PS3

I bought the Ultimate Edition for my PS3 about a year ago for only 19.99.


any bugs, like on Xbox?

Bugs are documented on the wiki by platform. Fixes for many of them (along with many, many, many mods) can be found at the Nexus if you get it for PC.

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Steelcan wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
My only complaint was that beards forced you to have no cheek volume


Ah I was never fond of the beards. I love the stubble in ME (can't make a character without it) but the DA stubble is...meh. DA2's stubble is better but not by much.

Then again 99% of my characters end up female in DAO anyway so no big loss to me.

I loved aggressive Hawke though. He's so hilariously over the top rage mode.

Sarcastic Hawke, I love the one to the Viscount........

********SPOLIER FOR DA:2********
"At least tomorrow can only get better"
"my son is dead, forgive me if I don't find the humor in that"



oh I am evil


Aveline's comment sells it. I believe she calls you an ass. XD

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AresKeith wrote...

themikefest wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

I'm still unsure if I wanna get for PS3

I bought the Ultimate Edition for my PS3 about a year ago for only 19.99.


any bugs, like on Xbox?

I haven't experienced any bugs. In fact with everyone discussing DA:O, I might do a complete run with all dlc again.

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Ryzaki wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...
The dwarf in drag... oh god, the dwarf in drag...

:alien:

[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]
Also Oghren walking in on femWarden with a female prostitute.

DeinonSlayer wrote...
The next Mass Effect character creator needs to let you rotate 360 degrees (Origins does, not sure why later titles haven't).

I've been burned by Cheek Gaunt so many times...


Yeah I have no idea why they don't give full rotation. Realizing your characters cheeks are too puffy/gaunt is aggravating. Ended up with Cerub cheeks after like 12 times of trying to get it right and just went screw it. Those cherub cheeks bothered me the whole intro.

At least I figured out how to avoid Bug Eyes. :blink: