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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

ME3>ME2>ME1

Dafuq? You're talking about gameplay right? Or did you perhaps put the arrows in the wrong direction?

Gameplay-wise:

ME3>ME2>ME1


Story-wise:

ME1>ME3>ME2

ME2>ME1>>>>>>>>>>>ME3 for story

ME2>ME3>ME1 for gameplay. ME3 may have had better gameplay, but I do prefer ME2's gameplay to ME3's.

This is how I do feel.

ME2 better story-wise than ME1?Wrong.

No, I'm not wrong.

I'm telling you 100% fact: I think ME2 had a better story than ME1. It is 100% fact that I feel that way.

Don't tell me how I feel. Don't tell me how to feel.

YOU'LL DO AS I COMMAND

Just try and stop me. 

SO BE IT

[MassivelyEffective0730]

David7204 wrote...

Thank God people on the BSN are not writers.

There are plenty of writers here. Many of them are even better than BioWare. 

But you can't quantitatively say what is *better* when it comes to art. So I think that many people are better writers than the folks at BioWare. I'm not wrong. 

I can't be wrong about what I choose to think in a case of preference.

[mass perfection]

Anyone remember Keeper 20?

[MassivelyEffective0730]

mass perfection wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

ME3>ME2>ME1

Dafuq? You're talking about gameplay right? Or did you perhaps put the arrows in the wrong direction?

Gameplay-wise:

ME3>ME2>ME1


Story-wise:

ME1>ME3>ME2

ME2>ME1>>>>>>>>>>>ME3 for story

ME2>ME3>ME1 for gameplay. ME3 may have had better gameplay, but I do prefer ME2's gameplay to ME3's.

This is how I do feel.

ME2 better story-wise than ME1?Wrong.

No, I'm not wrong.

I'm telling you 100% fact: I think ME2 had a better story than ME1. It is 100% fact that I feel that way.

Don't tell me how I feel. Don't tell me how to feel.

YOU'LL DO AS I COMMAND

Just try and stop me. 

SO BE IT

And all the Reapers died as Shepard killed them with his machine gun, and Miranda threw blue bolts of biotic energy at them. He grabbed her and they swung across a massive lava pit on a vine. They landed in a bed on a beach. They proceeded to have mad, libidinous rush sex. The end.

[mass perfection]

Would you guys be more satisfied with ME3's ending if Leviathan said that some random thrall with only half a brain cell was the programmer of the Catalyst?

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

[/quote]

And I disagree. Don't tell me that I'm wrong because I don't agree with you. 

I think ME2 had a better story than both ME1 and ME3. I like the side quests, character missions, and overall tone and style of storytelling much better than ME1 or ME3.




[/quote]Don't you get it?ME2 doesn't have a MAIN STORY,that's what i'm saying.Things like Miranda's sister and Thane's son are completely random.That's like saying you like Skyrim because it has an awesome story ( MAIN STORY 3 HOURZ LONG)

Modifié par IntelligentME3Fanboy, 13 juillet 2013 - 11:30 .

[mass perfection]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

ME3>ME2>ME1

Dafuq? You're talking about gameplay right? Or did you perhaps put the arrows in the wrong direction?

Gameplay-wise:

ME3>ME2>ME1


Story-wise:

ME1>ME3>ME2

ME2>ME1>>>>>>>>>>>ME3 for story

ME2>ME3>ME1 for gameplay. ME3 may have had better gameplay, but I do prefer ME2's gameplay to ME3's.

This is how I do feel.

ME2 better story-wise than ME1?Wrong.

No, I'm not wrong.

I'm telling you 100% fact: I think ME2 had a better story than ME1. It is 100% fact that I feel that way.

Don't tell me how I feel. Don't tell me how to feel.

YOU'LL DO AS I COMMAND

Just try and stop me. 

SO BE IT

And all the Reapers died as Shepard killed them with his machine gun, and Miranda threw blue bolts of biotic energy at them. He grabbed her and they swung across a massive lava pit on a vine. They landed in a bed on a beach. They proceeded to have mad, libidinous rush sex. The end.

Can Liara and Tali join to create a foursome?

[mass perfection]

[quote]IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

[/quote]

And I disagree. Don't tell me that I'm wrong because I don't agree with you. 

I think ME2 had a better story than both ME1 and ME3. I like the side quests, character missions, and overall tone and style of storytelling much better than ME1 or ME3.




[/quote]Don't you get it?ME2 doesn't have a MAIN STORY,that's what i'm saying.Things like Miranda's sister and Thane's son are completely random.That's like saying you like Skyrim because it has an awesome story ( MAIN STORY 3 HOURZ LONG)[/quote]The guilds of Skyrim (especially the Thieves Guild)hadthe worst plots I've ever seen.I can't believe so many people praise it.So many people kept calling it the best RPG ever.

[AresKeith]

dreamgazer wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Thank God people on the BSN are not writers.

Some of them might be, and some of them probably should be.  How would you know if they weren't?

Because David's word is LAW

[MassivelyEffective0730]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

And I disagree. Don't tell me that I'm wrong because I don't agree with you. 

I think ME2 had a better story than both ME1 and ME3. I like the side quests, character missions, and overall tone and style of storytelling much better than ME1 or ME3.

Don't you get it?ME2 doesn't have a MAIN STORY,that's what i'm saying.Things like Miranda's sister and Thane's son are completely random.That's like saying you like Skyrim because it has an awesome story ( MAIN STORY 3 HOURZ LONG)

I do get it. Perfectly.

ME2 is a better game, and has a better story than either ME1 or ME3 in my opinion.

There is a main story. While it may not be very strong in the context of including ME1 or ME3, on its own, with all the other factors of the narrative and story included, it is indeed superior to ME1 and ME3, in my opinion.

As I said, please don't tell me I'm wrong for liking something.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

mass perfection wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

ME3>ME2>ME1

Dafuq? You're talking about gameplay right? Or did you perhaps put the arrows in the wrong direction?

Gameplay-wise:

ME3>ME2>ME1


Story-wise:

ME1>ME3>ME2

ME2>ME1>>>>>>>>>>>ME3 for story

ME2>ME3>ME1 for gameplay. ME3 may have had better gameplay, but I do prefer ME2's gameplay to ME3's.

This is how I do feel.

ME2 better story-wise than ME1?Wrong.

No, I'm not wrong.

I'm telling you 100% fact: I think ME2 had a better story than ME1. It is 100% fact that I feel that way.

Don't tell me how I feel. Don't tell me how to feel.

YOU'LL DO AS I COMMAND

Just try and stop me. 

SO BE IT

And all the Reapers died as Shepard killed them with his machine gun, and Miranda threw blue bolts of biotic energy at them. He grabbed her and they swung across a massive lava pit on a vine. They landed in a bed on a beach. They proceeded to have mad, libidinous rush sex. The end.

Can Liara and Tali join to create a foursome?

Hell no. Shepard shoots Liara, and Miranda shoots Tali.

Humans only. Not Ashley. 

And Shepard only has his heart for one woman. Miranda.

Kelly Chambers and Dr. Michel can join in as well. 

[mass perfection]

Would anyone else prefer Indoctrination Theory as opposed to the ending we got?

[mass perfection]

[quote]MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

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[quote]MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

[quote]mass perfection wrote...

[quote]MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

[quote]mass perfection wrote...

[quote]MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

[quote]mass perfection wrote...

[quote]MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

[quote]Heretic_Hanar wrote...

[quote]IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

ME3>ME2>ME1
[/quote]

Dafuq? You're talking about gameplay right? Or did you perhaps put the arrows in the wrong direction?

Gameplay-wise:

ME3>ME2>ME1


Story-wise:

ME1>ME3>ME2
[/quote]

ME2>ME1>>>>>>>>>>>ME3 for story

ME2>ME3>ME1 for gameplay. ME3 may have had better gameplay, but I do prefer ME2's gameplay to ME3's.

This is how I do feel.

[/quote]ME2 better story-wise than ME1?Wrong.
[/quote]

No, I'm not wrong.

I'm telling you 100% fact: I think ME2 had a better story than ME1. It is 100% fact that I feel that way.

Don't tell me how I feel. Don't tell me how to feel.

[/quote]YOU'LL DO AS I COMMAND
[/quote]

Just try and stop me. 

[/quote]SO BE IT
[/quote]

And all the Reapers died as Shepard killed them with his machine gun, and Miranda threw blue bolts of biotic energy at them. He grabbed her and they swung across a massive lava pit on a vine. They landed in a bed on a beach. They proceeded to have mad, libidinous rush sex. The end.

[/quote]Can Liara and Tali join to create a foursome?
[/quote]

Hell no. Shepard shoots Liara, and Miranda shoots Tali.

Humans only. Not Ashley. 

And Shepard only has his heart for one woman. Miranda.

Kelly Chambers and Dr. Michel can join in as well. 

[/quote]Steve Cortez?

[AresKeith]

mass perfection wrote...

Would anyone else prefer Indoctrination Theory as opposed to the ending we got?

If done properly and part of game, then yes

[Reorte]

mass perfection wrote...

Don't you get it?ME2 doesn't have a MAIN STORY,that's what i'm saying.Things like Miranda's sister and Thane's son are completely random.That's like saying you like Skyrim because it has an awesome story ( MAIN STORY 3 HOURZ LONG)

The guilds of Skyrim (especially the Thieves Guild)hadthe worst plots I've ever seen.I can't believe so many people praise it.So many people kept calling it the best RPG ever.

The plots of Skyrim exist merely to give you something to do in a fairly sandboxed world. The game would be better if they were better but they're certainly not the focus of it, which is why lots of people aren't all that bothered about them not being great and still enjoy the overall experience of a good RPG. Mass Effect on the other hand is much less free-form and needs to rely on its story more. That said there's a hint there of why people still like Skyrim. ME2 gave us a chance to wander around an interesting new world and provided us with some things to do in it. Unlike Skyrim that wasn't the intent of the game but I think it may be why people like it. It's given us a good setting and some good characters (beats Skyrim there by miles, as much as I'd like some private time with Jenassa) and that's its appeal.

Hmm, not sure what's happened to the quoting there.

Modifié par Reorte, 13 juillet 2013 - 11:40 .

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

And I disagree. Don't tell me that I'm wrong because I don't agree with you. 

I think ME2 had a better story than both ME1 and ME3. I like the side quests, character missions, and overall tone and style of storytelling much better than ME1 or ME3.

Don't you get it?ME2 doesn't have a MAIN STORY,that's what i'm saying.Things like Miranda's sister and Thane's son are completely random.That's like saying you like Skyrim because it has an awesome story ( MAIN STORY 3 HOURZ LONG)

I do get it. Perfectly.

ME2 is a better game, and has a better story than either ME1 or ME3 in my opinion.

There is a main story. While it may not be very strong in the context of including ME1 or ME3, on its own, with all the other factors of the narrative and story included, it is indeed superior to ME1 and ME3, in my opinion.

As I said, please don't tell me I'm wrong for liking something.

Just because you enjoy it more doesn't mean it has a better story.I enjoy CoD but i never said that it has great story.It doesn't

[MassivelyEffective0730]

mass perfection wrote...
Steve Cortez?

*Only white females who are younger than 40. Maybe Asian, depends on how pretty you are*

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 13 juillet 2013 - 11:40 .

[mass perfection]

Reorte wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

Don't you get it?ME2 doesn't have a MAIN STORY,that's what i'm saying.Things like Miranda's sister and Thane's son are completely random.That's like saying you like Skyrim because it has an awesome story ( MAIN STORY 3 HOURZ LONG)

The guilds of Skyrim (especially the Thieves Guild)hadthe worst plots I've ever seen.I can't believe so many people praise it.So many people kept calling it the best RPG ever.

The plots of Skyrim exist merely to give you something to do in a fairly sandboxed world. The game would be better if they were better but they're certainly not the focus of it, which is why lots of people aren't all that bothered about them not being great and still enjoy the overall experience of a good RPG. Mass Effect on the other hand is much less free-form and needs to rely on its story more. That said there's a hint there of why people still like Skyrim. ME2 gave us a chance to wander around an interesting new world and provided us with some things to do in it. Unlike Skyrim that wasn't the intent of the game but I think it may be why people like it. It's given us a good setting and some good characters (beats Skyrim there by miles, as much as I'd like some private time with Jenassa) and that's its appeal.

Hmm, not sure what's happened to the quoting there.

The gameplay is repetitive and te game is too easy and over-casualized.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

And I disagree. Don't tell me that I'm wrong because I don't agree with you. 

I think ME2 had a better story than both ME1 and ME3. I like the side quests, character missions, and overall tone and style of storytelling much better than ME1 or ME3.

Don't you get it?ME2 doesn't have a MAIN STORY,that's what i'm saying.Things like Miranda's sister and Thane's son are completely random.That's like saying you like Skyrim because it has an awesome story ( MAIN STORY 3 HOURZ LONG)

I do get it. Perfectly.

ME2 is a better game, and has a better story than either ME1 or ME3 in my opinion.

There is a main story. While it may not be very strong in the context of including ME1 or ME3, on its own, with all the other factors of the narrative and story included, it is indeed superior to ME1 and ME3, in my opinion.

As I said, please don't tell me I'm wrong for liking something.

Just because you enjoy it more doesn't mean it has a better story.I enjoy CoD but i never said that it has great story.It doesn't

And I disagree. I think it has a marvelous story. 

You're missing the point of what I'm saying. A *good story* is a subjective term. Don't bring in irrelevant examples like CoD.

[Mcfly616]

mass perfection wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

People call Synthesis: "space magic". Yet, we've seen it before. Hello, Project Lazarus.

People blame ME3 for autodialogue. Which actually made its debut in ME2.

People say your choices don't matter in ME3. Well, your choices matter in ME2 about as much as they do in 3.....if not even less.

Don't get me started on the waste of time narrative focus on the Collectors.

Shoehorned into joining Cerberus.

Taking away nearly the entire original crew (stunting character growth), and over-populating the Normandy with a bunch of comic book heroes.

People hate the Catalyst (I'll admit, I hate the fact it appears as a child. Kids are just annoying). But come on, that human Reaper fetus is just god awful. And imo, trying to come up with something different and thoughtful is better than just coming right out and saying "hey we're idiots...now abort this human Reaper fetus"



Don't get me wrong, the Suicide Mission is awesome. It just makes ME2 that much more of a drag, because I'm trying to get to the last mission. But it honestly baffles me when people trash ME3s ending, then immediately praise ME2's from a narrative standpoint. Narratively speaking, ME2's ending is the most ordinary and mediocre ending of the trilogy.

First, you kill the Reaper fetus (god, that's not a great start). Then, you get up and escape the Collector base while being chased by seeker swarms. Base explodes, we tell TIM to shove it, and then we see Reapers coming. (Okay, I'll admit that last bit gives me chills). That (for the most part) seems like the script of a Michael Bay action film. (While fun, it isn't anything to put on a pedestal)

Meanwhile, I had chills the entire time after going up the beam in ME3 (Extended Cut). We all have our preferences though.

Soooooo. What would you have made ME2 about?

easy. I wouldn't have created a completely new villain. I wouldve kept the focus on the Reapers. I wouldn't have killed off the protagonist for shock value and a clean slate. I would've continued to develop existing squadmates, and added several more recruits (not 10). I wouldn't have completely removed features that fans criticised in ME1. I wouldve refined them.

The Reapers would've invaded halfway through ME2. That way, the war would be drawn out over the course of half the trilogy (1 and half games), instead of trying to cram the entire invasion, war and resolution into a single installment.

I would've made the Reaper War another three games.First one being about finding about the Crucible and destroying Cerberus before they get out of hand.The second being about building alliances.The third being about finishing the Crucible and learning about the Reapers and destroying them.

yeah, but you wouldn't have had to if we picked up on during ME2. It was supposed to be a trilogy and it could've worked much better had ME2 not had a stalling pattern type plot. Absolutely zero progress was made from the end of ME1 and the end of ME2. We're in the same exact position.

Whch is why ME2 was the worst game.

pretty much (but I still have love for it)

[Reorte]

mass perfection wrote...

Would anyone else prefer Indoctrination Theory as opposed to the ending we got?

Yes, to be honest. Although if that's what we did get I'd have still been very, very disappointed (after all it's not as if I'd have known that it was an alternative to the actual ending).

[Nole]

So Diana can join the party.

[Mcfly616]

ME2 is a glorified side-story

[Reorte]

mass perfection wrote...

Reorte wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

Don't you get it?ME2 doesn't have a MAIN STORY,that's what i'm saying.Things like Miranda's sister and Thane's son are completely random.That's like saying you like Skyrim because it has an awesome story ( MAIN STORY 3 HOURZ LONG)

The guilds of Skyrim (especially the Thieves Guild)hadthe worst plots I've ever seen.I can't believe so many people praise it.So many people kept calling it the best RPG ever.

The plots of Skyrim exist merely to give you something to do in a fairly sandboxed world. The game would be better if they were better but they're certainly not the focus of it, which is why lots of people aren't all that bothered about them not being great and still enjoy the overall experience of a good RPG. Mass Effect on the other hand is much less free-form and needs to rely on its story more. That said there's a hint there of why people still like Skyrim. ME2 gave us a chance to wander around an interesting new world and provided us with some things to do in it. Unlike Skyrim that wasn't the intent of the game but I think it may be why people like it. It's given us a good setting and some good characters (beats Skyrim there by miles, as much as I'd like some private time with Jenassa) and that's its appeal.

Hmm, not sure what's happened to the quoting there.

The gameplay is repetitive and te game is too easy and over-casualized.

Which isn't really the point.