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[David7204]

That is utterly moronic.

First of all, you really should abandon the tremendously stupid delusion that BioWare ever 'lectured' players that the ending was good because of 'artistic integrity.' Your hallucinations have no place in actual arguments.

Modifié par David7204, 14 juillet 2013 - 07:21 .

[Mcfly616]

motomotogirl wrote... I did feel as ME3 brought things back to "normal."

I felt the same way. ME2's narrative was a side story(though, a well done and entertaining one). Like an episode from a tv series that tells another story that's tangent to the overall main narrative. ME3 got the focus back on the Reapers and the original crew.

Modifié par Mcfly616, 14 juillet 2013 - 07:22 .

[The Heretic of Time]

dorktainian wrote...

Think it's common knowledge that Mass effect 3 is a truly great game up to Cronos Station, where it all goes gaga.

No, ME3 already went gaga in the prologue. In fact, it already went gaga in the opening.

"We fight or we die, that's the plan!" 

[Steelcan]

Mcfly616 wrote...

motomotogirl wrote... I did feel as ME3 brought things back to "normal."

I felt the same way. ME2's narrative was a side story. Like an episode from a tv series that tells another story that's tangent to the overall main narrative. ME3 got the focus back on the Reapers and the original crew.

Which is horrible.  The Reaper plot sucks and By "original team" I assume you mean Liara, the only ME1 squadmate who is a squadmate in 3 but not 2.

[Steelcan]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

Think it's common knowledge that Mass effect 3 is a truly great game up to Cronos Station, where it all goes gaga.

No, ME3 already went gaga in the prologue. In fact, it already went gaga in the opening.

"We fight or we die, that's the plan!" 

.  Let us not forget the treatment of Cerberus and the geth....

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

David7204 wrote...

That is utterly moronic.

First of all, you really should abandon the tremendously stupid delusion that BioWare ever 'lectured' players that the ending was good because of 'artistic integrity.' Your hallucinations have no place in actual arguments.

WHO DID U CALL A MORON?I challenge u to a duel.Draw your sword!

[The Heretic of Time]

Steelcan wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

Think it's common knowledge that Mass effect 3 is a truly great game up to Cronos Station, where it all goes gaga.

No, ME3 already went gaga in the prologue. In fact, it already went gaga in the opening.

"We fight or we die, that's the plan!" 

.  Let us not forget the treatment of Cerberus and the geth....

Yeah but that's all after the prologue.

The treatment of the VS was also facepalm worthy. I still can't get over it how one of my favorite ME1 crew members (Ashley) became such a massive pain in the ass whiney little B*TCH in ME2 and ME3...

[rohanks]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

David7204 wrote...

That is utterly moronic.

First of all, you really should abandon the tremendously stupid delusion that BioWare ever 'lectured' players that the ending was good because of 'artistic integrity.' Your hallucinations have no place in actual arguments.

WHO DID U CALL A MORON?I challenge u to a duel.Draw your sword!

IntelligentME3Fanboy. I think that is probably your most intelligent post yet. Certainly made me chuckle.

[AresKeith]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

Think it's common knowledge that Mass effect 3 is a truly great game up to Cronos Station, where it all goes gaga.

No, ME3 already went gaga in the prologue. In fact, it already went gaga in the opening.

"We fight or we die, that's the plan!" 

.  Let us not forget the treatment of Cerberus and the geth....

Yeah but that's all after the prologue.

The treatment of the VS was also facepalm worthy. I still can't get over it how one of my favorite ME1 crew members (Ashley) became such a massive pain in the ass whiney little B*TCH in ME2 and ME3...

That's the result of the original writers leaving Bioware

[Steelcan]

@HH, I dont let her past Virmire anymore

[rohanks]

AresKeith wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

Think it's common knowledge that Mass effect 3 is a truly great game up to Cronos Station, where it all goes gaga.

No, ME3 already went gaga in the prologue. In fact, it already went gaga in the opening.

"We fight or we die, that's the plan!" 

.  Let us not forget the treatment of Cerberus and the geth....

Yeah but that's all after the prologue.

The treatment of the VS was also facepalm worthy. I still can't get over it how one of my favorite ME1 crew members (Ashley) became such a massive pain in the ass whiney little B*TCH in ME2 and ME3...

That's the result of the original writers leaving Bioware

...and presumably new writers coming in to the stable wanting to make their mark.

[Mcfly616]

Steelcan wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

motomotogirl wrote... I did feel as ME3 brought things back to "normal."

I felt the same way. ME2's narrative was a side story. Like an episode from a tv series that tells another story that's tangent to the overall main narrative. ME3 got the focus back on the Reapers and the original crew.

Which is horrible.  The Reaper plot sucks and By "original team" I assume you mean Liara, the only ME1 squadmate who is a squadmate in 3 but not 2.

mhmm and that's your opinion. I find the Reapers to be far more mysterious and interesting than the Collectors. I find Liara and Ashley to be far more interesting than nearly every squadmate that debuted in ME2. In fact, I think the number of squadmates in 2 was a detriment to their character growth. They were all interesting but relatively shallow.

[Nightwriter]

Most of the major problems in the series started in ME2 imo. I can't say ME1 was a shining gem of videogaming perfection or anything -- it's still flatter than the second two in several areas, I feel -- but ME2 seemed like the first step into a much more... thoughtless, I suppose you'd say -- style of writing. Events were thrown together carelessly and with little regard for scope or craftsmanship. Plot developments that could have been very interesting -- the Lazarus Project, having to work with Cerberus, etc -- went utterly unexplored, as if the writers had lost the ability to recognize depths that demanded plumbing. Plot devices became contrived and transparent, and they seemed to forget there was a greater story that needed to be told.

I'd say in ME2 I heard the very loud sound of ice cracking beneath my feet, and in the tail end of ME3 it broke spectacularly and plunged me into the frigid waters. I don't really understand people who didn't hear the sound of the ice cracking. I do understand people who heard it but didn't think it would break quite that badly. Much of ME3 was full of what I consider to be great writing that leaves one very unprepared for the ending.

[Seboist]

I like to headcanon/LARP that the story ends with the Reapers trapped in dark space forever and human dominance achieved at the end of ME1.

[Seboist]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Yeah a lot of the species are clear submissives.

The white man's burden plot of ME3 vindicated Renegade Femshep's belief in ME1 that aliens need human leadership to save them from themselves.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Morocco Mole wrote...

David7024 is my second favorite poster after IntelligentME3Fanboy

He's so smexy when gets insulting.:wub:

[MassivelyEffective0730]

I headcanon that Shepard reforms Cerberus with Miranda into a quiet organization dedicated to promoting human achievement and cooperation with other races while also keeping watch as a vigilant sentinel group that uses Reaper tech and occasionally unethical methods to watch over the galaxy from problems both internal and external. To maintain stability. Beyond being a scientific research group for humanity, no species in particular is targeted or supported, though this new Cerberus is primarily a human group.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 14 juillet 2013 - 07:55 .

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Seboist wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

Yeah a lot of the species are clear submissives.

The white man's burden plot of ME3 vindicated Renegade Femshep's belief in ME1 that aliens need human leadership to save them from themselves.

Tally ho old bean! It's time to get colonial on their xenos asses!

Modifié par Grand Admiral Cheesecake, 14 juillet 2013 - 07:58 .

[iOnlySignIn]

I just want my Shepard to be happy.

And by that I mean punching random people and saying witty one-liners about it. There's not enough of that in ME3.

[adayaday]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

This doesn't make any sense. What would stop developers from making games like BG2 again? Absolutely nothing.

In fact, if we look at Kickstarter, we can see that some of the most succesful Kickstarter projects are in fact RPG games similar to the good old RPGs like Baldur's Gate and Fallout.

these games wouldn't sell well nowadays.That's what stops them.

I would like to disagree.

[CuriousArtemis]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

motomotogirl wrote... I did feel as ME3 brought things back to "normal."

I felt the same way. ME2's narrative was a side story. Like an episode from a tv series that tells another story that's tangent to the overall main narrative. ME3 got the focus back on the Reapers and the original crew.

Which is horrible.  The Reaper plot sucks and By "original team" I assume you mean Liara, the only ME1 squadmate who is a squadmate in 3 but not 2.

mhmm and that's your opinion. I find the Reapers to be far more mysterious and interesting than the Collectors. I find Liara and Ashley to be far more interesting than nearly every squadmate that debuted in ME2. In fact, I think the number of squadmates in 2 was a detriment to their character growth. They were all interesting but relatively shallow.

The Reapers represent the synthetics versus non-synthetics theme that permeates the whole series. It's so classic sci-fi, and I love it. 

As for the ME2 squadmates, it's not their fault they were victims of the "gather these characters before defeating the Big Bad!" plot  I remember I kept trying to speak to Miranda and checking the mission and the Wiki to figure out WHY I was supposed to be recruiting these people, lol!

Not to say that Jacob, Miranda, Samara, Thane, etc. weren't great, but I think the series would have been stronger if the same companions had been in every game. And I say this as a huge fan of the whole series.