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[Wolfva2]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

It's not around the corner, and it's not a delusion either. It's real and it's already here, installed on my PC. It's called "The Witcher". You should try it some time.

Now I enjoyed The Witcher and recently The Witcher two, but that's silly. It's story really is very little, if any, better than MEs.

What Angel said.  Heck, I played Witcher; couldn't finish either game.  Story didn't propel me along and got bored of that <censored> swamp.  My opinion is ME has a lot more story then Witcher, and is much better.  But to each their own.  Everyone has their own likes and dislikes afterall.  Which is why saying one game is better then another is pretty ludicrous.

[Seboist]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

It's not around the corner, and it's not a delusion either. It's real and it's already here, installed on my PC. It's called "The Witcher". You should try it some time.

Now I enjoyed The Witcher and recently The Witcher two, but that's silly. It's story really is very little, if any, better than MEs.

Lol, wut? Even your average Zelda title has a better plot than ME2 and 3.

[The Heretic of Time]

Wolfva2 wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

It's not around the corner, and it's not a delusion either. It's real and it's already here, installed on my PC. It's called "The Witcher". You should try it some time.

Now I enjoyed The Witcher and recently The Witcher two, but that's silly. It's story really is very little, if any, better than MEs.

What Angel said.  Heck, I played Witcher; couldn't finish either game.  Story didn't propel me along and got bored of that <censored> swamp.  My opinion is ME has a lot more story then Witcher, and is much better.  But to each their own.  Everyone has their own likes and dislikes afterall.  Which is why saying one game is better then another is pretty ludicrous.

You can't expect people to give a damn about your opinion on The Witcher or take it even remotely seriously if you haven't even played past the swamp, which is VERY EARLY in the game.

Your opinion is invalid.

[David7204]

Seboist, Hanar, I'm betting you two are the kind of people who like to boast about being 'real' gamers, aren't you? The kind of people who use 'gamer' as...I don't know...some sort of title of honor or something?

Modifié par David7204, 15 juillet 2013 - 05:42 .

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

David7204 wrote...

Really? It seems to me the Witcher has been quietly passed by for the most part. I would have thought such a thing would have heralded a little more excitement.

Oh Davey you're so adorable.:wub:

[The Heretic of Time]

David7204 wrote...

Seboist, Hanar, I'm betting you two are the kind of people who like to boast about being 'real' gamers, aren't you? The kind of people who use 'gamer' as...I don't know. Some sort of title of honor or something?

And I bet you're that kind of obnoxious 12 years old who's first and only "mature" video-game he ever bought and played himself is ME3 and now you feel all good about yourself and you think you're now qualified to talk like you know it all. Am I correct?

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 15 juillet 2013 - 05:47 .

[David7204]

Not in the least. But thank you for that confirmation. You're a 'real' gamer who plays 'real' mature games, huh?

It was your little banners that tipped me off. I'm thinking to myself 'What kind of person posts such things as if they were a point of pride?'

[HellbirdIV]

David7204 wrote...

Seboist, Hanar, I'm betting you two are the kind of people who like to boast about being 'real' gamers, aren't you? The kind of people who use 'gamer' as...I don't know...some sort of title of honor or something?

It's certainly a very hipster sentiment. "It's sooo much better because it's matuuuure and realistiiiiic nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeeeeh."

It was the same way with Dragon Age: Origins, and Battlestar Galactica, and Game of Thrones, and Stargate Universe, and I just get tired of hearing it. Realism/Grittiness does not add quality - it can be an aspect of something that is good, but it's not what makes it good.

Modifié par HellbirdIV, 15 juillet 2013 - 05:51 .

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Seboist, Hanar, I'm betting you two are the kind of people who like to boast about being 'real' gamers, aren't you? The kind of people who use 'gamer' as...I don't know. Some sort of title of honor or something?

And I bet you're that kind of obnoxious 12 years old who's first and only "mature" video-game he ever bought and played himself is ME3 and now you feel all good about yourself and you think you're now qualified to talk like you know it all. Am I correct?

It's all part of his boyish charm!

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

If you like squad banter you'll miss it in TW2, because you're out by yourself. However, the politics are done a hell of a lot better. You have to think. This is a real problem when playing the game and it can get frustrating for people who are not used to thinking when playing a game. There were a number of times I got lost in the mines. The game started out really slow in Flotsam and I lost interest for a while, but once I pushed past that, I made a choice of an allegiance that I didn't think I was going to make, and I was glad I did it. Great story from that point on.

[The Heretic of Time]

David7204 wrote...

Not in the least. But thank you for that confirmation. You're a 'real' gamer who plays 'real' mature games, huh?

It was your little banners that tipped me off. I'm thinking to myself 'What kind of person posts such things as if they were a point of pride?'

Me being a "real gamer"? Not in the least, I don't spend enough time on games anymore to be qualified as a "real gamer".

But thank you for that confirmation. You're a 12 years old who thinks he's a "real" gamer after playing that "real mature" game ME3, huh? 

It was your constant childish and immature posts that tipped me off. I'm thinking to myself 'What kind of person posts these kind of posts?"

[David7204]

It's not an insult. Just an innocent comment and challenge to an attitude I'm picking up on.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Reapers not evil? Killing quadrillions of people over a billion years as an experiment not evil? :head desk:

[AresKeith]

EntropicAngel wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Seboist, Hanar, I'm betting you two are the kind of people who like to boast about being 'real' gamers, aren't you? The kind of people who use 'gamer' as...I don't know...some sort of title of honor or something?

Don't resort to insults, David. That doesn't help.

But that takes away the majority of his posts

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

If you like squad banter you'll miss it in TW2, because you're out by yourself. However, the politics are done a hell of a lot better. You have to think. This is a real problem when playing the game and it can get frustrating for people who are not used to thinking when playing a game. There were a number of times I got lost in the mines. The game started out really slow in Flotsam and I lost interest for a while, but once I pushed past that, I made a choice of an allegiance that I didn't think I was going to make, and I was glad I did it. Great story from that point on.

Roche or Iorveth?

[The Heretic of Time]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

It's A LOT better than Mass Effect's story. It's mature, it's realistic, it reflects on human nature and real-life issues in a subtile and mature way. It does politics correctly, unlike Mass Effect's politicians which are hilarious 2D cardboard cut-outs that function as a verbal punching bag for the powertripping player to feel cool and satisfied about himself. it actually gives you real consequences to your choices, in a subtile and realistic way and unlike Mass Effect the story of The Witcher has some actual DEPTH, it actually goes deeper than "collect these henchemen in order to defeat the evil badguy".

"Mature" and "realistic" are meaningless buzzwords--meaningless because half the Witcher fans still think boobs and gore equals mature and realistic. ME reflected on human nature plenty. One example is the Council in ME2--if you killed their predecessors, they naturally don't want a thing to do with you. What "real-life issues" does it deal with? It's better on politics, I agree with you there--though I don't agree that the ME politicians are just verbal punching bags (outside of, amusingly, ME1). And about "consequence," I'd rather have choices. Choices are what roleplaying is about, not consequences.

And I'm trying to ignore the buzzwords, but you're calling it "subtle" how TW dealt with consequences? That's completely false--at certain points in the story when you see a consequence an animated scene appears that says "I MADE THIS CHOICE AND THIS IS THE CONSEQUENCE!! SEE???" over a pan of the scoia'tael or something. It isn't subtle at all.

Which game had the "collect these henchmen in order to defeat the evil badguy?" Not ME2--there was no "evil badguy." True somewhat in ME1, but that game also went to some length, what with conversations with Saren, to show he wasn't "evil" at all. In ME3, also not true--we find out about the entire cycle thing which paints the Reapers as decidedly not evil. Not good, for sure, but not evil at all.

Again, you haven't played any of the Witcher game past the intro, so your opinion is based on ignorance and therefor invalid.

You clealry don't know what you're talking about, as is evident by the kind of ignorant sh*t you post, such as: "half the Witcher fans still think boobs and gore equals mature and realistic."

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 15 juillet 2013 - 05:56 .

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

AresKeith wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Seboist, Hanar, I'm betting you two are the kind of people who like to boast about being 'real' gamers, aren't you? The kind of people who use 'gamer' as...I don't know...some sort of title of honor or something?

Don't resort to insults, David. That doesn't help.

But that takes away the majority of his posts

Davey's such a sweetie.

[Seboist]

EntropicAngel wrote...

This thread is moving too fast.

Seboist wrote...

Lol, wut? Even your average Zelda title has a better plot than ME2 and 3.

I've never played a Zelda game, so I can't comment on that. But I maintain my position.

I'll point out, though, as I did about 13 pages ago (this is really moving too fast), that "good" and "bad" are subjective with something like this.

Nah, it's quite objective that ME2 and 3's plots are completely nonsensical. Link has a compelling reason to get triforce pieces unlike Shepard's quest for space pokemon for a complete unknown or the derp fest that's gathering allies to liberate earth when there's nothing vital about it(until the reapers conveniently move the citadel there).

[AlexMBrennan]

You can't expect people to give a damn about your opinion on The Witcher or take it even remotely seriously if you haven't even played past the swamp, which is VERY EARLY in the game.

There is something seriously wrong with your game if it requires the player to sit through a few hours of ragequit-inducing boredom (especially if the game is so boring that you can't even keep the attention of someone who as already paid for it)

[The Heretic of Time]

HellbirdIV wrote...

Realism/Grittiness does not add quality - it can be an aspect of something that is good, but it's not what makes it good.

And no one ever said that it was.

Just so you know, that aside from being a Witcher fan, I'm also a Nintendo fan. I love Mario, Donkey Kong and Zelda.

So yeah, take that as you will.

[Seboist]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Reapers not evil? Killing quadrillions of people over a billion years as an experiment not evil? :head desk:

It's quite comical how Walters and co wanted us to see the Reapers as grey at the end after all the bizarre and sadistic frankenstein monstrosities they've created like Brutes and Cannibals.