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[The Heretic of Time]

David7204 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

David7204 wrote...

It's a very specific circumstance

You keep saying that as if that makes a difference or puts weight to your (non-sensical) arguments...

It makes all the difference in the world. Lazarus is not a cure for bullet wounds. For disease. For old age. For toxins. For getting your head smashed in with a hammer. It's a 'cure' for the damage to Shepard's body. And not only, that, it's a cure only administered with a huge amount of money, a huge amount of time, a huge amount of expertise, and a significant motivation.

No, it's a cure for the death! That's a big deal, even in the Mass Effect universe.

[spirosz]

dreamgazer wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

What I don't find as enjoyable is how you're starting to sound like people must be stupid for liking something you don't. Your posts have been moving closer and closer to that threshold.

(laughs)

You've been around here long enough to know how frequently this happens.

Even people who think they aren't guilty of this actually are.

[Erez Kristal]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

erezike wrote...

he was dead a 100% which is why i wrote the hard part was to make sure his brain and memories was intact.

But his brain and memories were NOT in tact. They had to reconstruct those from scratch. How did they do that? 

The fact that they managed to do this is nothing short of a miracle, yet the galaxy doesn't seem to give a f*ck that a terrorist organisation just managed to pull off a miracle.

they didnt hand wave it.

Yes they did hand wave it.

The game stated they had enough brain to work with, which means they didnt have to start from scrach.

The discussion now turned to is it possibile for them to have some brain to work with.

Cerberus work in secret. for all people know. shepard has been missing for two years and assumed dead. his body was never found

[David7204]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

No, it's a cure for the death! That's a big deal, even in the Mass Effect universe.

That's flatly nonsense. Lazarus cannot cure a gunshot to the head.

Modifié par David7204, 13 juillet 2013 - 10:03 .

[tonnactus]

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...

We barely delved into his past, period.

This is pure nonsense for everyone who actually played the game and bothered to talk with him. What about his stories about the biotic training, the Turian he killed? Barely delved into his past?
And what is more important,he also had opinions about the things going on around him in the game, not was just there "for a ride". Delving into their past in the only thing squadmates in Mass Effect 2 actually have. Opinions about Reapers,politics, squadbanter? Near to zero.

[Straw Nihilist]

David7204 wrote...

tickle267 wrote...

David7204 wrote...
( People generally don't become soup stains when they hit the ground at terminal velocity.

if there's no atmosphere, there's no terminal velocity and you'll just keep accelerating.

Thankfully, planets generally have atmospheres.

Then he should've been toast, he was going pretty damn fast towards that planet tbh.

[David7204]

S/he really wasn't.

[Seboist]

tonnactus wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...
it introduces characters that shouldn't be introduced

Exactly. Boring over the top superheroes alike(that suck in the game) with daddy issues. And then,the player not even knows the purpose of any character until the end. And Thane had actually no purpose at all in the suicide mission or before.

Thane is the poster child for the "if it sounds cool add it" mentality that went into ME2 without any regard to the overarching story or even the collector plot.

[Erez Kristal]

Billie Bones wrote...

David7204 wrote...

tickle267 wrote...

David7204 wrote...
( People generally don't become soup stains when they hit the ground at terminal velocity.

if there's no atmosphere, there's no terminal velocity and you'll just keep accelerating.

Thankfully, planets generally have atmospheres.

Then he should've been toast, he was going pretty damn fast towards that planet tbh.

Shepard was pulled by the planet gravity, at the begining there isnt much gravity which means there isnt much speed.
Which means he wasnt going pretty fast, which result in lower heat than you would first expect

[The Heretic of Time]

erezike wrote...

The game stated they had enough brain to work with, which means they didnt have to start from scrach.

Seems you have no clue what a brain is or how it works.

Cerberus work in secret. for all people know. shepard has been missing for two years and assumed dead. his body was never found

No, everybody in the galaxy seems to be aware of Shepard's dead and ressurection (yet nobody seems to care).

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 13 juillet 2013 - 10:06 .

[rohanks]

Seboist wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...
it introduces characters that shouldn't be introduced

Exactly. Boring over the top superheroes alike(that suck in the game) with daddy issues. And then,the player not even knows the purpose of any character until the end. And Thane had actually no purpose at all in the suicide mission or before.

Thane is the poster child for the "if it sounds cool add it" mentality that went into ME2 without any regard to the overarching story or even the collector plot.

and Diane Allers in ME3?

[mass perfection]

ME1 wasn't perfect,either.Why would Shepard be able to choose who should be a human Coucilor?This also starts to make less sense when in ME3,Shepard keeps going on about just being a soldier,not a politician.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

David7204 wrote...

Completely wrong.

First of all, Shepard is not moving at 'hypersonic speed.'

Secondly, in the hypothetical event that Shepard was moving at 'hypersonic speed,' once s/he hit atmosphere and started to heat up, s/he would be slowing down, not speeding up.

No, you are completely wrong.

At what speed is Shepard moving then hmm? You made a claim and failed to back it up. Wouldn't he be travelling at least several kilometers per second in space? Especially if he's ejected from a space ship? Planet's aren't still David. They're moving fast. Very fast. And Shepard would have to be moving very fast in the Normandy once he's ejected. He wouldn't just lose his speed randomly.

And he is slowing down. That's the atmosphere dragging at him. That's why he's burning at several thousand degree's. But he's also being pulled by gravity. That pull is going to become greater and stronger as he falls. And the resistance of the atmosphere isn't going to slow down his velocity to the point where he gently floats down and lands in a field of buttercups like you seem to think. Get real.

[The Night Mammoth]

David7204 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

No, it's a cure for the death! That's a big deal, even in the Mass Effect universe.

That's flatly nonsense. Lazarus cannot cure a gunshot to the head.

Why the hell not? Project Lazarus cures someone who hit a planet's surface after suffocating and falling from orbit. Take the bullet out and stick some cybernetics in there, or just clone the person's brain.

It's the future, this is possible.

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 13 juillet 2013 - 10:09 .

[Erez Kristal]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

erezike wrote...

The game stated they had enough brain to work with, which means they didnt have to start from scrach.

Seems you have no clue what a brain is or how it works.

Cerberus work in secret. for all people know. shepard has been missing for two years and assumed dead. his body was never found

No, everybody in the galaxy seems to be aware of Shepard's dead and ressurection (yet nobody seems to care).

When all debate attempts fail always turn to insults.. we were doing better than this hanar.

This is 2185, cerberus has put a lot of resources in those this in a lengthy time period. all of the energy resolved around shepard brain. yes shepard was brain dead,
yes braindead means brain damage. 
but due to cold tempetures, SuperB Space suit and hardcore science shepard was brought back to life better than before.

[AresKeith]

Seboist wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...
it introduces characters that shouldn't be introduced

Exactly. Boring over the top superheroes alike(that suck in the game) with daddy issues. And then,the player not even knows the purpose of any character until the end. And Thane had actually no purpose at all in the suicide mission or before.

Thane is the poster child for the "if it sounds cool add it" mentality that went into ME2 without any regard to the overarching story or even the collector plot.

Thane would've been much better if he wasn't terminally ill and a stealth Assassin

[Mcfly616]

Yeah. ME3 is an improvement over ME2....story-wise and gameplay-wise.


Hmm 2 pretty important things.

Modifié par Mcfly616, 13 juillet 2013 - 10:09 .

[The Heretic of Time]

David7204 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

No, it's a cure for the death! That's a big deal, even in the Mass Effect universe.

That's flatly nonsense. Lazarus cannot cure a gunshot to the head.

And yet Lazarus is still a cure of the death. It cured Shepard's death.


Also, Lazarus cured Shepard from the death from a burned-up carcass that was nothing more than meat and tubes (according to Jacob). If Lazarus can do that, than Lazarus can most certainly cure a simple gunshot to the head.

[BaladasDemnevanni]

tonnactus wrote...

This is pure nonsense for everyone who actually played the game and bothered to talk with him. What about his stories about the biotic training, the Turian he killed? Barely delved into his past?

Played it. And nothing came of it. He tells you a story about how he had one-time ****ty training, after which he managed to come through unscathed. Wrex actually spends a good amount of time telling you different stories: his experience dualing with the Asari, the whole issue with his father, his encounter with Saren, etc. And even better, the Genophage comes back in a really big way in ME1 too.

And what is more important,he also had opinions about the things going on around him in the game, not was just there "for a ride". Delving into their past in the only thing squadmates in Mass Effect 2 actually have. Opinions about Reapers,politics, squadbanter? Near to zero.

Kaidan was there, for the ride. He had no overarching narrative significance and wasn't interesting in his own right. He was the Jacob of ME1.

The squad-banter was only present if you spent any significant time on the elevators, which was itself a problem.  As for opinions? Well, the ME2 cast does have their own thoughts on certain things. Samara will threaten to kill you after the mission if you're too Renegade. Garrus has his own judgments regarding Cerberus and their resources. They have opinions as much as any ME1 cast member.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

dreamgazer wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

What I don't find as enjoyable is how you're starting to sound like people must be stupid for liking something you don't. Your posts have been moving closer and closer to that threshold.

(laughs)

You've been around here long enough to know how frequently this happens.

Even people who think they aren't guilty of this actually are.

Yet I still stick around and try to change it.

If you're referring to me in an oblique manner, maybe I have. I don't know. I don't remember if I have or not to be honest. 

If I did, then I am indeed guilty, and was indeed wrong. I'd like to think I've changed to a degree if that's the case.

[David7204]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

No, it's a cure for the death! That's a big deal, even in the Mass Effect universe.

That's flatly nonsense. Lazarus cannot cure a gunshot to the head.

Why the hell not? Project Lazarus cures someone who hit a planet's surface after suffocating and falling from orbit. Take the bullet out and stick some cybernetics in there, or just clone the person's brain.

It's the future, this is possible.

Because the story says so. The story says Lazarus 'cured' Shepard. There's nothing whatsoever indicating Lazarus is a cure for death.

[Ravensword]

I recall Jacob describing Shepard as being "..meat and tubes" when he was first brought to the station. Sounds pretty bad to me.

Modifié par Ravensword, 13 juillet 2013 - 10:12 .