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[Dasos]

Yeah, I'll be boycotting Bioware/EA until this is fixed also.

[StreetBushido]

So, after 2 months from the OP this issue still hasn't been fixed? I thought it was something to do with my computer when I noticed that the load times got increasingly longer the longer i played. It is a bit of a "relief" that it's an issue with the game.



My system:



(Copy-Pasted from Dragon Age configuration tool)



OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional



CPU: Intel® Core™ i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz



Physical Memory : 3,99 GB (2 sticks of 2 GB ram each)



VRAM: 1,00 GB



GPU: ATI Radeon HD 5700



I'm gonna try that "use one core only" solution and see if it works. I'll try to remember to report my findings! I'll be using the CPU labeled "0" (mine are labeled 0-3).

[Valaskjalf]

StreetBushido wrote...

So, after 2 months from the OP this issue still hasn't been fixed? I thought it was something to do with my computer when I noticed that the load times got increasingly longer the longer i played. It is a bit of a "relief" that it's an issue with the game.

My system:

(Copy-Pasted from Dragon Age configuration tool)

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional

CPU: Intel® Core™ i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz

Physical Memory : 3,99 GB (2 sticks of 2 GB ram each)

VRAM: 1,00 GB

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 5700

I'm gonna try that "use one core only" solution and see if it works. I'll try to remember to report my findings! I'll be using the CPU labeled "0" (mine are labeled 0-3).

What driver are you running? I noticed with the included driver with my 5770 that the game had serious loading issues, but when i cleared it out and  went to the 9.11 driver everything was fixed.

[FFMagee]

StreetBushido wrote...

So, after 2 months from the OP this issue still hasn't been fixed? I thought it was something to do with my computer when I noticed that the load times got increasingly longer the longer i played. It is a bit of a "relief" that it's an issue with the game.

My system:

(Copy-Pasted from Dragon Age configuration tool)

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional

CPU: Intel® Core™ i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz

Physical Memory : 3,99 GB (2 sticks of 2 GB ram each)

VRAM: 1,00 GB

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 5700

I'm gonna try that "use one core only" solution and see if it works. I'll try to remember to report my findings! I'll be using the CPU labeled "0" (mine are labeled 0-3).

You don't want to use 0.  That's the system core and I heard some people had some bad crashes when using just 0.

Modifié par FFMagee, 06 janvier 2010 - 06:34 .

[StreetBushido]

FFMagee wrote...
You don't want to use 0.  That's the system core and I heard some people had some bad crashes when using just 0.

Thanks for the heads up! I'll go with 1 and try now. I got caught up in some Left 4 Dead 2 and haven't had time to experiment . Also I'll check my drivers, and see if I can make a change there.

[Arpl]

FFMagee wrote...

StreetBushido wrote...

So, after 2 months from the OP this issue still hasn't been fixed? I thought it was something to do with my computer when I noticed that the load times got increasingly longer the longer i played. It is a bit of a "relief" that it's an issue with the game.

My system:

(Copy-Pasted from Dragon Age configuration tool)

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional

CPU: Intel® Core™ i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz

Physical Memory : 3,99 GB (2 sticks of 2 GB ram each)

VRAM: 1,00 GB

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 5700

I'm gonna try that "use one core only" solution and see if it works. I'll try to remember to report my findings! I'll be using the CPU labeled "0" (mine are labeled 0-3).

You don't want to use 0.  That's the system core and I heard some people had some bad crashes when using just 0.

... There's no such thing as a "system core." Sure, you might be referring to the BSP, but that can be any core, and once the APIC has been switched to symmetric I/O mode the BSP becomes just another core/processor unless the operating system chooses to treat it differently, which Windows doesn't. Some drivers may want to run exclusively on core 0(Or 1, or 2, or 3... etc etc), but that doesn't make that core a "system core."

The more you know...

Modifié par Arpl, 06 janvier 2010 - 09:33 .

[StreetBushido]

I updated my graphic drivers to 9.12, but I don't think it made any greater difference. I also ran on one core now and once again I'm not sure if it made any difference, allthough I did notice that the game stuttered when it got heavy on effects (spells and whatnot). That was new, since my rig usually handles the razzle-dazzle quite well. I have noticed another glitch/issue that I've heard others have, and that's the "Stuck armor" problem. Usually in cutscenes and conversations the characters take off their helmets, but after a period of gaming (the period varies) the main char keeps the helmet on. Also any changes to equipment will be seen in the inventory window, but not in game. This get's really wierd if I switch from say two weapons to a bow; then my character uses his sword as a bow... and don't get me started on the sex-scene... talk about chastity belt, how about chastity SUIT?



Since this problem takes a while to manifest I wonder if it's not related to the loading times that grow longer.

[FFMagee]

Arpl wrote...

FFMagee wrote...

StreetBushido wrote...

So, after 2 months from the OP this issue still hasn't been fixed? I thought it was something to do with my computer when I noticed that the load times got increasingly longer the longer i played. It is a bit of a "relief" that it's an issue with the game.

My system:

(Copy-Pasted from Dragon Age configuration tool)

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional

CPU: Intel® Core™ i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz

Physical Memory : 3,99 GB (2 sticks of 2 GB ram each)

VRAM: 1,00 GB

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 5700

I'm gonna try that "use one core only" solution and see if it works. I'll try to remember to report my findings! I'll be using the CPU labeled "0" (mine are labeled 0-3).

You don't want to use 0.  That's the system core and I heard some people had some bad crashes when using just 0.

... There's no such thing as a "system core." Sure, you might be referring to the BSP, but that can be any core, and once the APIC has been switched to symmetric I/O mode the BSP becomes just another core/processor unless the operating system chooses to treat it differently, which Windows doesn't. Some drivers may want to run exclusively on core 0(Or 1, or 2, or 3... etc etc), but that doesn't make that core a "system core."

The more you know...

Well, then I guess I'm just talking crazy talk.  I could've sworn I saw other people warn against that.  

[FFMagee]

 Well, I have found some more evidence that would point towards a memory leak.  I was tracking info for my computer in the process of failing to prove that DA:O was overheating my computer.  I was using a stopwatch to track when what I assumed was my processor fan would kick into overdrive.  It never happened, but I got some other information that's fairly interesting.

By around 2 hours and 20 minutes of gametime (just my play session, not the character), I noticed the performance of the game starting to hit the wall.  By about 2 hours and 45 minutes into playtime, transition from dialog back to being able to play took about 11 seconds.  At 3 hours 45 minutes in, it took 114 seconds to go from the Apprentices' Quarters to the 2nd Floor of the Tower of Magi.

My PC:

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit
6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz RAM
nVidia 280 GTX
Intel Core i7 920 (2.6 Ghz) - I had all cores running

Actual combat is fine, and once I'm in dialog, I have no issues.  However, it's the transitioning that gets worse and worse as my session continues.

[zartan88]

I've had this problem from day one, all patches, drivers - everything. The loading screen takes longer and longer to load, then the game itself starts to slow down, its really annoying as I have to save and then reload to get rid of it - it's my only real major gripe with the game.



Hopefully we'll get a fix!



Windows Vista 64bit

Intel Quad Q9550

Nvidia Geforce 285 GTX

6 Gig Ram

[Valaskjalf]

2 more nvidia...



i just found out that i have 4GB of save files. no slowdown though

[chitradev]

I have a system with an Nvidia gtx 275 and I do not have any issues.

[end3ffect]

I pre-ordered the game because I was so excited about it. I got the game, loaded it up and from the beginning was in love...until the slowdowns. I refuse to play this game until it is fixed. I would expect Bioware- one of the leading game companies in the world would have caught such a major flaw in their game. If this doesn't get fixed, the game won't be played and I will withdrawl my pre-order of Mass Effect 2 for fear of memory leaks. Thanks Bioware... You have made part of the gaming community less trustworthy of you in a world that relies on trust.

[StrikeSaber47]

end3ffect wrote...

I pre-ordered the game because I was so excited about it. I got the game, loaded it up and from the beginning was in love...until the slowdowns. I refuse to play this game until it is fixed. I would expect Bioware- one of the leading game companies in the world would have caught such a major flaw in their game. If this doesn't get fixed, the game won't be played and I will withdrawl my pre-order of Mass Effect 2 for fear of memory leaks. Thanks Bioware... You have made part of the gaming community less trustworthy of you in a world that relies on trust.

I find your idea of cancelling ME 2 idiotic as the UE 3.5 engine used in ME 2 doesn't have memory leaks what so ever. I am ashamed of you fearing an Epic Games Game Engine over a problem with BIOWARE's own internal GAME ENGINE. UE 3 does have a problem with texture filtering and poor PC code optimization though, but BioWare got that all down already with ME 2 and UE 3.5. So don't go boycotting other games over a problem that doesn't relate the the other game's engine. This memory leak is solely the problem of DA: O's engine which is INDEPENDENT of ME 2's engine.

Also a lucky soul out there might have taken your Collector's Edition Pre-Order now. Heh.

[StreetBushido]

Now now, let not this important thread devolve into squabbles while there still remains a problem that must be fixed.

After having run DA on a single core I noticed the following:
-On a single core the game ran somewhat more unevenly and special effects took their toll on the framerate.
-Load times still crawled upwards over time.
EDIT: Almost forgot
-The transition from conversation to game became longer as well as the regular loading times.

I then restarted the game and ran on all four cores, and for a while the load times were instantaneous but it didn't take long (less than 30 minutes) before the loading times had elongated, but at least not alot. They had gone from imperceptible to up towards 10 seconds or more. This may have had to do with me travelling to larger, more populated areas of the game, I don't know.

Anyway, those are my results. Sadly I'm afraid they don't add much to the total equation.

Modifié par StreetBushido, 07 janvier 2010 - 10:16 .

[roberttonkiss]

well the fix seems to be a long time coming as this has been a problem from day 1. Surely Bioware should be priortising this problem as it will be putting gamers off getting further installments of this game. I cetainly am reluctant to fork out any more cash for expansions untill the problems sorted and they better inclued a fix in an expansion which we have to pay for as i see next expansion DA assension is due out in march

[whtnyte-raernst]

I just had an interesting read following the recent Firefox update.
It seems the most critical fix in this update was Firefox running out of memory when the user has had a web site open for two hours or more that contains "active content" such as Facebook, online board gaming sites like scrabble...etc.
bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi

I wonder...how many of us that have experienced the slowdown after several hours of DA:O also had Firefox running in the background? It's been a week or two since I've played, but I generally have firefox open as long as the computer is on. So it's a fair bet it was always running when the game was running.

[Titius.Vibius]

What I don't understand is why in the Maker's ashes the early parts of the story the area transitions are fast but as you progress that is the time the slowdown starts, it has to do with the engine memorizing everything perhaps.

[FFMagee]

whtnyte-raernst wrote...

I just had an interesting read following the recent Firefox update.
It seems the most critical fix in this update was Firefox running out of memory when the user has had a web site open for two hours or more that contains "active content" such as Facebook, online board gaming sites like scrabble...etc.
bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi

I wonder...how many of us that have experienced the slowdown after several hours of DA:O also had Firefox running in the background? It's been a week or two since I've played, but I generally have firefox open as long as the computer is on. So it's a fair bet it was always running when the game was running.

I don't have Firefox.

[Arpl]

FFMagee wrote...

 Well, I have found some more evidence that would point towards a memory leak.  I was tracking info for my computer in the process of failing to prove that DA:O was overheating my computer.  I was using a stopwatch to track when what I assumed was my processor fan would kick into overdrive.  It never happened, but I got some other information that's fairly interesting.

By around 2 hours and 20 minutes of gametime (just my play session, not the character), I noticed the performance of the game starting to hit the wall.  By about 2 hours and 45 minutes into playtime, transition from dialog back to being able to play took about 11 seconds.  At 3 hours 45 minutes in, it took 114 seconds to go from the Apprentices' Quarters to the 2nd Floor of the Tower of Magi.

My PC:

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit
6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz RAM
nVidia 280 GTX
Intel Core i7 920 (2.6 Ghz) - I had all cores running

Actual combat is fine, and once I'm in dialog, I have no issues.  However, it's the transitioning that gets worse and worse as my session continues.

Memory leaks do not exhibit themselves in that manner, they generally don't affect performance until you completely run out of memory, in which case you crash or start swapping tons of pages to disk (Edit: or initiate a GC cycle or the likes, but DAO does not use a GC as far as I can see). Since you have 6GB RAM and DAO can't use more than 2GB, it's extremely unlikely that it's the latter case, and since it doesn't crash outright it cannot be the former.

Please, for the love of $deity, stop talking about things you don't have any idea about, that goes for all of you; all you're doing is spread misinformation. A gradual slowdown does not equate to a memory leak.

Modifié par Arpl, 08 janvier 2010 - 12:15 .

[whtnyte-raernst]

Arpl wrote...
Please, for the love of $deity, stop talking about things you don't have any idea about, that goes for all of you; all you're doing is spread misinformation. A gradual slowdown does not equate to a memory leak.

Ease up there Arpl, even among those of us with computer science degrees there's been debate on what constitutes a "memory leak."
It's just a generic term everyone has been using to refer to a symptom rather than a long explanation.
My definition of a memory leak may vary from your definition. It depends a lot on who your professors were in college.

[Azimuth0001]

I don't care what bioware calls it, I just hope they fix it. It must be something to do with only hardware that is significantly different from what the counsels use. It seams to effect higher end machines more then the lower end specs of the PS3 or Xbox, which is odd.

[OfTheFaintSmile]

Oerwinde wrote...

I don't know if its the memory leak but I encounter the 5 minute load times after playing for a half hour or so, plus slowdowns(Will run fine when the game first starts, but after a while suddenly becomes choppy). Also combat will lag. Game will be running fast, but combat will go through 5-6 attacks before the first one registers. I'll run around attacking grunts once, then focus on a boss and suddenly all those grunts I attacked once will start dying in the order I attacked them.

Windows XP Pro
Pentium D 3.2 GHz
3 GB RAM
Geforce 9800 GTX

Ya I got almost the same problem, but the combat lag is what really annoys me. Queuing up 5 attacks and waiting 20 seconds and then have them fire off at once, only to see the enemy dead as well as yourself...

Modifié par OfTheFaintSmile, 08 janvier 2010 - 01:06 .

[Arpl]

whtnyte-raernst wrote...

Arpl wrote...
Please, for the love of $deity, stop talking about things you don't have any idea about, that goes for all of you; all you're doing is spread misinformation. A gradual slowdown does not equate to a memory leak.

Ease up there Arpl, even among those of us with computer science degrees there's been debate on what constitutes a "memory leak."
It's just a generic term everyone has been using to refer to a symptom rather than a long explanation.
My definition of a memory leak may vary from your definition. It depends a lot on who your professors were in college.

Then I'd like to hear your definition of a memory leak...

[FFMagee]

Ok, let me rephrase the term. It is performance degradation that is similar, in general, to the symptoms of the memory leak in Firefox 2.0. It has the same effect as FF's memory leak, making the product unusable. I apologize for saying the wrong thing. However, it doesn't change the fact that this game has an issue that they need to fix. As far as the term is concerned, since you seem so knowledgeable on the subject, how about you enlighten all of us as to what we should call it.