42 réponses à ce sujet

[flibber89-2]

A sniper gun made for the drell infiltrator imo.. fast rof, quick reload, sexy as f. with head shot passive and recon debuff it is serious business even on platinum, although it doesn't shine on scions, praetoreans, or banshees it isn't the worst either.

[Alijah Green]

Asari Adept http://narida.pytalh...nt10BJ5AA1/////

[dumdum2]

Qui-Gon Glenn wrote...

dumdum2 wrote...

Qui-Gon Glenn wrote...

My weapon of choice for the Salarian Infiltrator. With Operative Package and a SR Amp, you kill three mooks per clip if you can aim.

And if you use the Black Widow instead you don't even have to aim but can kill three mooks per clip just by shooting them in the foot. Also bosses die a lot lot faster to the BW than the Valiant.

This post is obvious. We were not talking about the Black Widow my friend. Also, I prefer Valiant to BW on my SI; go ah3ad and come at me bruh 

If you prefer it then that is fine, it is a game after all and to always play with the most optimal weapons on the optimal characters will get boring and stale after a while.

So, good that you like it. And you know of course that the SI Black Widow would outperform the SI Valiant any day of the week, but since it is about having fun then who really cares about it? 

[Alijah Green]

flibber89-2 wrote...

A sniper gun made for the drell infiltrator imo.. fast rof, quick reload, sexy as f. with head shot passive and recon debuff it is serious business even on platinum, although it doesn't shine on scions, praetoreans, or banshees it isn't the worst either.

warp ammo:D

[Qui-Gon Glenn]

As I said, obvious. Yes, BW is the superior weapon in almost all circumstances, but not all.

Playing optimal went out the window well before the last balance change though... boredom.

[Arctican]

flibber89-2 wrote...

A sniper gun made for the drell infiltrator imo.. fast rof, quick reload, sexy as f. with head shot passive and recon debuff it is serious business even on platinum, although it doesn't shine on scions, praetoreans, or banshees it isn't the worst either.

I use it on the Drell Inf for those reasons as well. But once you get it to an high enough level, you can use it on casters as the gun is pretty light then. Think of it as the Wraith of sniper rifles.

[Sebastianthorson]

Secondary weapon on N7 Destroyer. It compliments Raider or any other CQC weapon nicely and is more forgiving than BW, so missing a mook due to hydra missile staggering him is not a big deal.
Also benefits more from incendiary rounds due to higher ROF.

[landylan]

ITFC-Alex wrote...

Infiltrator. You can fire off all three rounds before cloak breaks.

That doesn't really matter because you get the damage bonus after cloak breaks for like two seconds.

[Nitrocuban]

Aim for the head, you can take out 3 mooks in like .6s with good aim.
I think it still has higher dps than the Black Widow cause it fires and reloads so incredible fast.
My favourite char to use the Valiant is the Salarian Infilrator. Energy Drain for shields then make heads pop, Proxy Mine for armored bosses and then pew pew pew in their private parts weakspots.

[OniGanon]

Asari Adept and Human/Geth Engineer can make really good use of it at high levels... Not sure how it'd go at level 1 though.

[Serker31]

Valiant fails to stack with cloak damage bonus - no smooth "fired a clip - reloaded - cloaked - rinse - repeat" routine, like with Black Widow. Lower damage makes it inferior to BW as well. But it is easier to use and absolutely wrecking on Silver and below. You can use it on Gold with consumables ofc, but I'd rather go with BW booming sound and one shotting Centurions and rocket troopers.

Modifié par Serker31, 15 juillet 2013 - 07:42 .

[Terminator Force]

dumdum2 wrote...

Qui-Gon Glenn wrote...

My weapon of choice for the Salarian Infiltrator. With Operative Package and a SR Amp, you kill three mooks per clip if you can aim.

And if you use the Black Widow instead you don't even have to aim but can kill three mooks per clip just by shooting them in the foot. Also bosses die a lot lot faster to the BW than the Valiant.

How so? The Valiant has the highest dps out of the Sniper Rifles, no? Beats the BW by 1/7th in reload cancel dps. ... Plus I don't think the third shot of the BW makes the tac cloak sniper bonus before it wears out? But I'd like to know for sure, so anyone know?

[Dunvi]

I was playing around with QFI and I didn't hate the Valiant on her as much as I normally hate the weapon - I don't hate it hate it, but it just isn't quite good enough IMO (or more accurately, the other UR snipers blow it out of the water with how overbuffed they are T.T)

That said, it's still better on my GI Before my BW was maxed it was appreciable, but it's pretty pointless
when you have a good leveled BW. A perfect example of too many weapons
and overlapping niches.

Modifié par Dunvi, 15 juillet 2013 - 09:26 .

[Dunvi]

Sinful Force wrote...

dumdum2 wrote...

Qui-Gon Glenn wrote...

My weapon of choice for the Salarian Infiltrator. With Operative Package and a SR Amp, you kill three mooks per clip if you can aim.

And if you use the Black Widow instead you don't even have to aim but can kill three mooks per clip just by shooting them in the foot. Also bosses die a lot lot faster to the BW than the Valiant.

How so? The Valiant has the highest dps out of the Sniper Rifles, no? Beats the BW by 1/7th in reload cancel dps. ... Plus I don't think the third shot of the BW makes the tac cloak sniper bonus before it wears out? But I'd like to know for sure, so anyone know?

a) loses more damage to armor DR without the correct equipment (more bullets being fired)
loses damage when penetrating without the correct equipment (BW has natural AP)
c) sustained DPS vs burst DPS doesn't really compare correctly. When you break a certain burst DPS threshold, it becomes more valuable to get enough damage to one or two shot things, even at the cost of losing sustained DPS
d) SI is one of the best users of the weapon, since he can strip shields (more likely to oneshot things), gets a debuff (offsets any boss killing weaknesses, or allows you to techburst off of it), and has amazing sniper passives. On most other kits, the Valiant is a little frustrating in my experience. Could have used that headshot multiplier more than the Valkyrie IMO.

[drmoose00]

Alijah Green wrote...

Asari Adept http://narida.pytalh...nt10BJ5AA1/////

the vanilla AA with stasis makes this gun really fun - at X the cooldown is near 200%. Keep in mind I am pretty sure you can take the enhanced scope and HVB with no cooldown penatly, since this is an original weapon and the added weight doesn't apply

I prefer the BW on all my snipers. I have heard the argument that the Valiant-X actually has a higher sustained DPS than the BW-X - and the weapons stats numebrs support this - which makes the Valiant the preferred weapon against bosses actually. And when I used it on an AA, I must admit that the DPS on bosses was actually pretty damn good - if I am soloing a boss, it goes down fast.

Nonetheless, I vastly prefer the BW...

[AlphaMaeko]

I've got the Valiant X- still haven't found my rhythm with it, but I know it's a good weapon. It's good with allot of kits that need light weaponry.

[ROBOTICSUPERMAN]

http://kalence.drupa...565!!..N5!548AD
with drill rounds

this is my build. but host, for god sakes host.
I didn't think it was going to be that bad off host, but so many times i'd dodge and take damage from where I was

[Nonlethal Overkill]

I have both the BW and the Valiant maxed. Honestly, I'd take the Valiant every time, even though I know it's the inferior gun for the most part.