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Robosexual wrote...

I don't get the Vega hate. In my opinion he's more interesting than 'agree with everything you say' Garrus.


True, he's way better than dudebro Vakarian.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

Why does it matter if he is bi?

It should not matter, but cleary because it hurt the OPs handcanon it's bad.

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So much opinion grandstanding, I love it XD

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I consider my Kaidan to be gay too, honestly, but I don't see the big deal of a story involving a female crush. I'm gay, and have had crushes on and relationships with women in the past, and it wasn't because I was "still in the closet" or trying to hide anything.

Whether you are gay, straight, or bi, there is plenty of gray area all around.

Just my two cents.

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The combination of bad art and bad writing in the comics makes me feel as if Walters hates me and wishes me harm.

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The Grey Nayr wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

Mac Walters wrote Mass Effect Redemption, Evolution, Invasion, Homeworlds, and all the miscellaneous comics, including Blasto, He Who Laughs Best, Incurion, Inqusition, and Conviction.


All of these are terrible.


Says you. Not me, and not everybody.

You don't speak for me, you don't speak for others.

And enough people bought Mass Effect Redemption(which set up Lair of the Shadow Broker, the most popular of DLCs) and each following comic series that they let Mac keep writing them.

So if the sales fit, you have no case.

Call of Duty sold more then games like TWD,Last of Us ect. Cleary that makes it better.

Also his Liara comic was a goddam joke.

Modifié par Mr.House, 15 juillet 2013 - 06:32 .


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The Grey Nayr wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

Mac Walters wrote Mass Effect Redemption, Evolution, Invasion, Homeworlds, and all the miscellaneous comics, including Blasto, He Who Laughs Best, Incurion, Inqusition, and Conviction.


All of these are terrible.


Says you. Not me, and not everybody.

You don't speak for me, you don't speak for others.

And enough people bought Mass Effect Redemption(which set up Lair of the Shadow Broker, the most popular of DLCs) and each following comic series that they let Mac keep writing them.

So if the sales fit, you have no case.


Yeah, the two pieces of material that create character inconsistencies for Liara and sets up a near pointless shadow broker role in 3 are awesome writing.

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Seboist wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

Mac Walters wrote Mass Effect Redemption, Evolution, Invasion, Homeworlds, and all the miscellaneous comics, including Blasto, He Who Laughs Best, Incurion, Inqusition, and Conviction.


All of these are terrible.


I like how the only pont of the Evolution comic was to introduce the basis for the EDI sex robot.


Not true. Eva Core's existence was implied in Drew Karpyshyn's novels as well.

Core-Hislop Aerospace - A Cerberus front that Paul Grayson worked for in Ascension. Named for the Illusive Man's first two agents, Ben Hislop, and Eva Core.

Though there's like a typo or something in the editing that made it Cord-Hislop.

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The Grey Nayr wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...



Mac Walters wrote Mass Effect Redemption, Evolution, Invasion, Homeworlds, and all the miscellaneous comics, including Blasto, He Who Laughs Best, Incurion, Inqusition, and Conviction.


All of these are terrible.


Says you. Not me, and not everybody.

You don't speak for me, you don't speak for others.

And enough people bought Mass Effect Redemption(which set up Lair of the Shadow Broker, the most popular of DLCs) and each following comic series that they let Mac keep writing them.

So if the sales fit, you have no case.


He didn't speak for you.

You are saying he is, somehow, claiming to be speaking for you.

So.....yeah.

Modifié par Kel Riever, 15 juillet 2013 - 06:33 .


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As a player, I get to define the sexuality of my Shepard and his love interest. That's BioWare's stance

Please provide a source for the claim that the player gets to decide the sexuality of other characters in the story
Can I headcanon Anderson to be Chinese? Can I headcanon that all the characters are in high school? Where do you draw the line?

What's more. Bioware has been absolutely clear that Shepard's sexuality is not your choice. Same sex relationships are only OK if it's women (until they recton'd that)

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Robosexual wrote...

I don't get the Vega hate. In my opinion he's more interesting than 'agree with everything you say' Garrus.

I like Garrus better, but I don't get all the hate either.

But I'd rather a ME2 squadmate to him.

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The Grey Nayr wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

Mac Walters wrote Mass Effect Redemption, Evolution, Invasion, Homeworlds, and all the miscellaneous comics, including Blasto, He Who Laughs Best, Incurion, Inqusition, and Conviction.


All of these are terrible.


I like how the only pont of the Evolution comic was to introduce the basis for the EDI sex robot.


Not true. Eva Core's existence was implied in Drew Karpyshyn's novels as well.

Core-Hislop Aerospace - A Cerberus front that Paul Grayson worked for in Ascension. Named for the Illusive Man's first two agents, Ben Hislop, and Eva Core.

Though there's like a typo or something in the editing that made it Cord-Hislop.

Source.

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Seboist wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

I don't get the Vega hate. In my opinion he's more interesting than 'agree with everything you say' Garrus.


True, he's way better than dudebro Vakarian.


Garrus doesn't always agree with Shepard. In fact, he's quite the contrarian when he's around Paragon Shepard.

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Garrus pulls of being a "dudebro" correctly, it would be different if he was the CoD-type dudebro.

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Seboist wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

Mac Walters wrote Mass Effect Redemption, Evolution, Invasion, Homeworlds, and all the miscellaneous comics, including Blasto, He Who Laughs Best, Incurion, Inqusition, and Conviction.


All of these are terrible.


Says you. Not me, and not everybody.

You don't speak for me, you don't speak for others.

And enough people bought Mass Effect Redemption(which set up Lair of the Shadow Broker, the most popular of DLCs) and each following comic series that they let Mac keep writing them.

So if the sales fit, you have no case.


Yeah, the two pieces of material that create character inconsistencies for Liara and sets up a near pointless shadow broker role in 3 are awesome writing.


Why should it amount to anything in Mass Effect 3? Lair of the Shadow Broker was a Mass Effect 2 storyline, one that was very well received.

What Laira does with her Broker resources after the fact is her own business, not Shepard's. Which I might add was a lot of work behind the scenes during the game. She was helping the Crucible development with her resources. And an information network doesn't mean a lot in a war of guns and bombs aside from helping them know what and where to shoot.

Unless you expected Liara to come down from the heavens during every mission, proclaiming "I am the Shadow Broker! Fear me!" before smiting them with the godlike powers you think she should have for it.

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The Grey Nayr wrote...

Why should it amount to anything in Mass Effect 3? Lair of the Shadow Broker was a Mass Effect 2 storyline, one that was very well received.

What Laira does with her Broker resources after the fact is her own business, not Shepard's. Which I might add was a lot of work behind the scenes during the game. She was helping the Crucible development with her resources. And an information network doesn't mean a lot in a war of guns and bombs aside from helping them know what and where to shoot.

Unless you expected Liara to come down from the heavens during every mission, proclaiming "I am the Shadow Broker! Fear me!" before smiting them with the godlike powers you think she should have for it.

As it stands, making Liara the SB was a complete waste.  It is never brought up and Liara comes off as criminally incompetent.

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Steelcan wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Why should it amount to anything in Mass Effect 3? Lair of the Shadow Broker was a Mass Effect 2 storyline, one that was very well received.

What Laira does with her Broker resources after the fact is her own business, not Shepard's. Which I might add was a lot of work behind the scenes during the game. She was helping the Crucible development with her resources. And an information network doesn't mean a lot in a war of guns and bombs aside from helping them know what and where to shoot.

Unless you expected Liara to come down from the heavens during every mission, proclaiming "I am the Shadow Broker! Fear me!" before smiting them with the godlike powers you think she should have for it.

As it stands, making Liara the SB was a complete waste.  It is never brought up and Liara comes off as criminally incompetent.

+1

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Kaidan was always into women. He's tongue-tied around FShep, mentions his crush on Rahna, and drools over asari. You don't get to decide these things, they don't disappear if you skip the dialogue. You can create a universe where his attraction to women is a nonfactor, but it's always there.

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The Grey Nayr wrote...

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Maybe it's a good story, and just leave sexuality at the door, hm?

I hope Mac Walters did exactly that. Tell a good story and leave Kaidan's sexuality ambiguous so as not to disrupt anybody's canon.

Walters clearly cannot tella good story so expect canon shattering revelations about Kaidan's explicit asexuality.


Oh shut up! The drama over the ME3 ending is so tired and stupid.

Mac Walters wrote Garrus in Mass Effect 1. (I heard that from Chris L'Etoile/Stormwaltz himself)

Mac Walters wrote James Vega in Mass Effect 3

Mac Walters wrote Mass Effect Redemption, Evolution, Invasion, Homeworlds, and all the miscellaneous comics, including Blasto, He Who Laughs Best, Incurion, Inqusition, and Conviction.

All of which, I might add, are good material.

He is not a bad writer just because wrote one mother****ing thing you didn't like!


Except Biff Slabmeat isn't a good character

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Mr.House wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Why should it amount to anything in Mass Effect 3? Lair of the Shadow Broker was a Mass Effect 2 storyline, one that was very well received.

What Laira does with her Broker resources after the fact is her own business, not Shepard's. Which I might add was a lot of work behind the scenes during the game. She was helping the Crucible development with her resources. And an information network doesn't mean a lot in a war of guns and bombs aside from helping them know what and where to shoot.

Unless you expected Liara to come down from the heavens during every mission, proclaiming "I am the Shadow Broker! Fear me!" before smiting them with the godlike powers you think she should have for it.

As it stands, making Liara the SB was a complete waste.  It is never brought up and Liara comes off as criminally incompetent.

+1


Yeah, it's awesome how Traynor proves to be more useful at intel gathering than the shadow broker.

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Morocco Mole wrote...

Sums up this thread well.

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Inquisitor Recon wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

Sums up this thread well.


It was very closedminded and not inclusive for Bioware to have removed transgender shepard.

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Mr.House wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

Mac Walters wrote Mass Effect Redemption, Evolution, Invasion, Homeworlds, and all the miscellaneous comics, including Blasto, He Who Laughs Best, Incurion, Inqusition, and Conviction.


All of these are terrible.


I like how the only pont of the Evolution comic was to introduce the basis for the EDI sex robot.


Not true. Eva Core's existence was implied in Drew Karpyshyn's novels as well.

Core-Hislop Aerospace - A Cerberus front that Paul Grayson worked for in Ascension. Named for the Illusive Man's first two agents, Ben Hislop, and Eva Core.

Though there's like a typo or something in the editing that made it Cord-Hislop.

Source.


http://masseffect.wi...islop_Aerospace

Did you actually *read* the novel? A lot of things from the Comics borrowed from novel details.

Saren's brother, Desolas, for instance. It was mentioned in Revelation that Saren's brother died during the First Contact War, which is why Saren hated humans. In Evolution, it shows that a human convinced Saren to kill his own brother, and he vowed to avenge him(the start of his prejudice.)

The alliance between Aria and Cerberus during the beginning of Invasion came from the events of Retribution. And Aria was conspiring revenge in Deception because she found out Cerberus killed her daughter, which is arguably why they betrayed her in the comic. They knew she was gonna screw them, so they screwed her over first.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

Why does it matter if he is bi?

It doesn't. I don't care if he's bi in your story. But I know plenty of female Kaidan fans that interpret him as straight in their universe, so why do so many people take issue with me wanting him to be gay in mine?