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[ShepnTali]

Some people were convinced Ashley was once a dude. Remember that?

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

Rauhel wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Have you read the OP? He wants BioWare to acknowledge his specific headcanon IN A COMIC.

No, I want them to leave it ambiguous so the reader/player can decide who/what Kaidan is attracted to. But please, go on misrepresenting me. Clearly we need you to constantly throw words in my mouth to get people to disagree with me since I'm not doing a good enough job of that on my own. I could point you to a place where you can get a great deal torches and pitch forks, if you'd like.

Kaidan is NOT gay!

www.youtube.com/watch

[Fedi.St]

Fedi.St wrote...

question? is this comic supposed to be the "foundation" of the mass effect next?

[Han Shot First]

Rauhel wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

It isn't an interpretation.  Kaidan says flat out that he is attracted to women and asari in ME1.  You cannot ignore that without it being headcanon.

He didn't in my game. Not once. This type of dituation is also in David Gaider's speech. Don't flirt with a male character, and they won't give you any reason to assume they are attracted to men. Don't talk about girls with Kaidan, and he won't mention liking them.

My Shepard was gay, he didn't care to ask Kaidan for his opinion on ladies.

David Gaider writes for Dragon Age, not Mass Effect. What is true in Dragon Age is not necessarily true in Mass Effect, as both are written by two entirely different teams of writers.

As for Rahna not existing just because Kaidan didn't mention on her on your playthrough...sorry, but it doesn't work that way. There are plenty of personal details about characters you can miss if Shepard doesn't talk to them. That doesn't mean that those personality traits or backstories don't exist, it just means that Shepard never found out about them.

Also if you were to apply the flawed logic that anything not mentioned didn't happen, it also means that Kaidan was straight in Mass Effect 1 since there was also no mention of any interest in the same sex. Catch 22.

Honestly you're better off just accepting that Rahna existed and Kaidan was into her.

[Sebby]

ShepnTali wrote...

Some people were convinced Ashley was once a dude. Remember that?

Given how she looks in ME3, I can believe that.

[PMC65]

AresKeith wrote...

Kaidan's sexuality isn't ambiguous, he's Bisexual

"Wait ... what?" FemSheps around the world stop. Not once did Kaidan ever mention liking males in her world.

 

[Arcian]

Fedi.St wrote...

question? is this comic supposed to be the "foundation" of the mass effect next?

Nope, just another of Super MAC's unrelated one-word titles.

Wasn't a lot of evolution going on in Evolution if you know what I mean.

EDIT: I am giddily awaiting the release of Mass Effect: Electric Boogaloo myself.

Modifié par Arcian, 15 juillet 2013 - 08:45 .

[Dextro Milk]

OP, Who are you to say who has and hasn't had a hard time coming to terms with who they are? You know how hard it was for me to stop living in denial with myself and admit that I liked both men and women? How much pressure I had living in a Christian home where "liking men is evil son, u be going to hell fo sho."?

Kaidan is bisexual, if you can't see that, headcanon away - but don't come in here and make a thread about your headcanon and expect people to let you walk all over them with it.

[devSin]

PMC65 wrote...

"Wait ... what?" FemSheps around the world stop. Not once did Kaidan ever mention liking males in her world.

I believe he checks out Jacob. But you need to have cheated on him with Jacob in ME2, or something like that.

It's certainly easier to make a case for heterosexuality than homosexuality, I agree, but I don't really take any such arguments to heart. It is what it is, and it matters even less.

[madzilla84]

I'm interested in people's opinions - what makes Kaidan bi for a player playing FemShep? I'm not trying to start anything, I'm genuinely curious, because the only argument I've ever seen is that you can also romance MShep with him - but MShep doesn't exist if you're playing FemShep. So what's the problem with calling him straight in that scenario?

I think there's a difference between this situation and, say, Leliana in Dragon Age, who can express interest for both men and women *in a single playthrough*, regardless of the Warden's gender.

[Chala]

Arcian wrote...

Fedi.St wrote...

question? is this comic supposed to be the "foundation" of the mass effect next?

Nope, just another of Super MAC's unrelated one-word titles.

Wasn't a lot of evolution going on in Evolution if you know what I mean.

EDIT: I am giddily awaiting the release of Mass Effect: Electric Boogaloo myself.

Ok, this isn't the first time I read something like that...
Am I missing something?

Modifié par El_Chala_Legalizado, 15 juillet 2013 - 08:58 .

[Steelcan]

madzilla84 wrote...

I'm interested in people's opinions - what makes Kaidan bi for a player playing FemShep? I'm not trying to start anything, I'm genuinely curious, because the only argument I've ever seen is that you can also romance MShep with him - but MShep doesn't exist if you're playing FemShep. So what's the problem with calling him straight in that scenario?

I think there's a difference between this situation and, say, Leliana in Dragon Age, who can express interest for both men and women *in a single playthrough*, regardless of the Warden's gender.

because there still exists a universe where he is bisexual

[PMC65]

devSin wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

"Wait ... what?" FemSheps around the world stop. Not once did Kaidan ever mention liking males in her world.

I believe he checks out Jacob. But you need to have cheated on him with Jacob in ME2, or something like that.

It's certainly easier to make a case for heterosexuality than homosexuality, I agree, but I don't really take any such arguments to heart. It is what it is, and it matters even less.

True ... Just trying to lighten the mood here. How people roll in their game is fine with me. I headcanon that Chakwas ties up Adams in her room everynight. That saucy minx!

[AresKeith]

PMC65 wrote...

devSin wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

"Wait ... what?" FemSheps around the world stop. Not once did Kaidan ever mention liking males in her world.

I believe he checks out Jacob. But you need to have cheated on him with Jacob in ME2, or something like that.

It's certainly easier to make a case for heterosexuality than homosexuality, I agree, but I don't really take any such arguments to heart. It is what it is, and it matters even less.

True ... Just trying to lighten the mood here. How people roll in their game is fine with me. I headcanon that Chakwas ties up Adams in her room everynight. That saucy minx!

This headcanon seems legit

[Dextro Milk]

AresKeith wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

devSin wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

"Wait ... what?" FemSheps around the world stop. Not once did Kaidan ever mention liking males in her world.

I believe he checks out Jacob. But you need to have cheated on him with Jacob in ME2, or something like that.

It's certainly easier to make a case for heterosexuality than homosexuality, I agree, but I don't really take any such arguments to heart. It is what it is, and it matters even less.

True ... Just trying to lighten the mood here. How people roll in their game is fine with me. I headcanon that Chakwas ties up Adams in her room everynight. That saucy minx!

This headcanon seems legit

I approve of this headcanon.

[PMC65]

Steelcan wrote...

madzilla84 wrote...

I'm interested in people's opinions - what makes Kaidan bi for a player playing FemShep? I'm not trying to start anything, I'm genuinely curious, because the only argument I've ever seen is that you can also romance MShep with him - but MShep doesn't exist if you're playing FemShep. So what's the problem with calling him straight in that scenario?

I think there's a difference between this situation and, say, Leliana in Dragon Age, who can express interest for both men and women *in a single playthrough*, regardless of the Warden's gender.

because there still exists a universe where he is bisexual

There is a universe that has a Spacer Shepard ... a colonist Shepard ... a male Shepard ... a female Shepard ... a Shepard with Liara .... a Shepard with Garrus ... and so on. I would think something only applies across the board when it is in all playthroughs. But I could be wrong ... and probably am. Not the first time and not the last.

[L2 Sentinel]

Dextro Milk wrote...

Kaidan is bisexual, if you can't see that, headcanon away - but don't come in here and make a thread about your headcanon and expect people to let you walk all over them with it.

I didn't realize me wanting it to be ambiguous and allowing everyone's headcanons to co-exist was me walking all over your headcanon with mine.

You people are absolutely absurd. You insist on characterizing me as some entitled bully when all I want is to maintain the status-quo. Yes, I've read the 6,000 posts about the status-quo being 'Kaidan is bi.' I've already responded to that countless times. We disagree on how much is open to interpretation. There is nothing to be gained from bringing that up YET AGAIN. I'm dizzy from all the circles this discussion keeps going in.

I'm not posting in here anymore. You insist on painting me as some kind of gay Hitler that hates bisexuals. Stay classy, BSN.

Modifié par Rauhel, 15 juillet 2013 - 09:13 .

[KaiserShep]

ShepnTali wrote...

Some people were convinced Ashley was once a dude. Remember that?

Some people are not the shiniest pennies in the fountain.

[devSin]

madzilla84 wrote...

I think there's a difference between this situation and, say, Leliana in Dragon Age, who can express interest for both men and women *in a single playthrough*, regardless of the Warden's gender.

Like I posted, I think he compliments Shepard's taste if she cheated on him with Jacob in ME2 (if I'm even remembering all this correctly). That indicates bisexuality, as opposed to simply leaving it up to interpretation.

You can disregard it, certainly, but I think you run the same risk as Rauhel here. I don't believe there's anything wrong with this specific interpretation, as long as you don't intend to deny others their own (or start to try to determine which one is more "correct").

That said, I imagine the comic won't do anything at all to invalidate your interpretation (that Kaidan is simply heterosexual), whereas it possibly could for some others.

[Clayless]

Rauhel wrote...

Dextro Milk wrote...

Kaidan is bisexual, if you can't see that, headcanon away - but don't come in here and make a thread about your headcanon and expect people to let you walk all over them with it.

I didn't realize me wanting it to be ambiguous and allowing everyone's headcanons to co-exist was me walking all over your headcanon with mine.

You people are absolutely absurd. You insist on characterizing me as some entitled bully when all I want is to maintain the status-quo. Yes, I've read the 6,000 posts about the status-quo being 'Kaidan is bi.' I've already responded to that countless times. We disagree on how much is open to interpretation. There is nothing to be gained from bringing that up YET AGAIN. I'm dizzy from all the circles this discussion keeps going in.

I'm not posting in here anymore. You insist on painting me as some kind of gay Hitler that hates bisexuals. Stay classy, BSN.

Bioware addresses canon, not headcanon. You say you want to maintain the status quo (which is Kaidan being bi) but dismiss it simply because you don't like it.

Modifié par Robosexual, 15 juillet 2013 - 09:17 .

[Dextro Milk]

Rauhel wrote...

Mmmhmm, yup. Totally Kaidan likes men only. Sure. Mmmhmm.

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

Rauhel wrote...

Dextro Milk wrote...

Kaidan is bisexual, if you can't see that, headcanon away - but don't come in here and make a thread about your headcanon and expect people to let you walk all over them with it.

I didn't realize me wanting it to be ambiguous and allowing everyone's headcanons to co-exist was me walking all over your headcanon with mine.

You people are absolutely absurd. You insist on characterizing me as some entitled bully when all I want is to maintain the status-quo. Yes, I've read the 6,000 posts about the status-quo being 'Kaidan is bi.' I've already responded to that countless times. We disagree on how much is open to interpretation. There is nothing to be gained from bringing that up YET AGAIN. I'm dizzy from all the circles this discussion keeps going in.

I'm not posting in here anymore. You insist on painting me as some kind of gay Hitler that hates bisexuals. Stay classy, BSN.

what makes you think that the writers would care about upsetting one person who headcanoned things that are already canon like Kaidan's sexuality? Kaidan likes women=not gay.Bisexual,yes.But not gay

[Cainhurst Crow]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Bioware addresses canon, not headcanon.

I want to see this world where every person's headcanon is adhered too

here you go, knock yourself out.