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[wolfsite]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Bioware addresses canon, not headcanon.

I want to see this world where every person's headcanon is adhered too

Game would be in development for 80 years and require a 950 TB install..... <insert snarky comment here cause I'm coming up with nothing>

[Mimitochan]

My headcanon is that Kaidan was wearing a shirt there.

[Demonique]

ShepnTali wrote...

Some people were convinced Ashley was once a dude. Remember that?

And their whinging probably contributed to the bimboization of Ashley in ME3

[PMC65]

Mimitochan wrote...

My headcanon is that Kaidan was wearing a shirt there.

What is funny is that Kaidan is more ripped in this artwork than  in ME1 Kaidan and yet this story took place when he was a teenager. You gotta love comics.

[Mimitochan]

PMC65 wrote...

Mimitochan wrote...

My headcanon is that Kaidan was wearing a shirt there.

What is funny is that Kaidan is more ripped in this artwork than  in ME1 Kaidan and yet this story took place when he was a teenager. You gotta love comics.

Bwahaha, oh wait!
My headcanon is that Kaidan was wearing a shirt with a shirtless pattern on.

[Big Ben6898]

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Fedi.St wrote...

question? is this comic supposed to be the "foundation" of the mass effect next?

Nope, just another of Super MAC's unrelated one-word titles.

Wasn't a lot of evolution going on in Evolution if you know what I mean.

EDIT: I am giddily awaiting the release of Mass Effect: Electric Boogaloo myself.

Ok, this isn't the first time I read something like that...
Am I missing something?

The only reference that I know of would be an old Pokemon comic from the 90's called Pikachu's Electric Boogaloo.  No idea if that's what they're getting at though...

[Han Shot First]

PMC65 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

madzilla84 wrote...

I'm interested in people's opinions - what makes Kaidan bi for a player playing FemShep? I'm not trying to start anything, I'm genuinely curious, because the only argument I've ever seen is that you can also romance MShep with him - but MShep doesn't exist if you're playing FemShep. So what's the problem with calling him straight in that scenario?

I think there's a difference between this situation and, say, Leliana in Dragon Age, who can express interest for both men and women *in a single playthrough*, regardless of the Warden's gender.

because there still exists a universe where he is bisexual

There is a universe that has a Spacer Shepard ... a colonist Shepard ... a male Shepard ... a female Shepard ... a Shepard with Liara .... a Shepard with Garrus ... and so on. I would think something only applies across the board when it is in all playthroughs. But I could be wrong ... and probably am. Not the first time and not the last.

I think Kaidan is still bi when Shepard is female, because otherwise that makes Kaidan Shepardsexual. And real world sexuality doesn't work that way. People have their interests, and another person can't force them to change it. If Kaidan and Male Shep end up shacking up, it isn't because Shepard is so awesome that Kaidan forgot he was heterosexual. Its because Kaidan at least had some interest in dudes to begin with.

[ShepnTali]

Big Ben6898 wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Fedi.St wrote...

question? is this comic supposed to be the "foundation" of the mass effect next?

Nope, just another of Super MAC's unrelated one-word titles.

Wasn't a lot of evolution going on in Evolution if you know what I mean.

EDIT: I am giddily awaiting the release of Mass Effect: Electric Boogaloo myself.

Ok, this isn't the first time I read something like that...
Am I missing something?

The only reference that I know of would be an old Pokemon comic from the 90's called Pikachu's Electric Boogaloo.  No idea if that's what they're getting at though...

Breakin' 2:Electric Boogaloo

[PMC65]

Han Shot First wrote...

I think Kaidan is still bi when Shepard is female, because otherwise that makes Kaidan Shepardsexual. And real world sexuality doesn't work that way. People have their interests, and another person can't force them to change it. If Kaidan and Male Shep end up shacking up, it isn't because Shepard is so awesome that Kaidan forgot he was heterosexual. Its because Kaidan at least had some interest in dudes to begin with.

I have no problem with what people see these characters as to be honest.

But in my opinion (which is wrong and I'm good with that) ... in the case of Kaidan, there does not exist a male Shepard if you play a female Shepard so what he may or may not have done with male Shepard is ... non-existent.
Now If in the FemShep game Kaidan says that he had a crush on a guy or asks a guy out, or cops a feel from Garrus, etc, well ... the player cannot say that Kaidan is not bi. Just as one cannot say that Jacob is a cheater in a universe that he did not romance Shepard. Well, I guess they could if they wanted to. Nothing stopping them. 

But having so many universes does get sticky I guess. Everyone is peeking into everyone else's yards and pulling the lawn furniture over into theirs and saying it belongs. Or some such thing. 

[Chala]

ShepnTali wrote...

Big Ben6898 wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Fedi.St wrote...

question? is this comic supposed to be the "foundation" of the mass effect next?

Nope, just another of Super MAC's unrelated one-word titles.

Wasn't a lot of evolution going on in Evolution if you know what I mean.

EDIT: I am giddily awaiting the release of Mass Effect: Electric Boogaloo myself.

Ok, this isn't the first time I read something like that...
Am I missing something?

The only reference that I know of would be an old Pokemon comic from the 90's called Pikachu's Electric Boogaloo.  No idea if that's what they're getting at though...

Breakin' 2:Electric Boogaloo

Thanks!
Well, at least now I won't stay awake trying to figure out where that came from

[Iakus]

PMC65 wrote...

Mimitochan wrote...

My headcanon is that Kaidan was wearing a shirt there.

What is funny is that Kaidan is more ripped in this artwork than  in ME1 Kaidan and yet this story took place when he was a teenager. You gotta love comics.

I fully expect the fight with Vyrnnus to be a full-on biotic kung-fu match, rather than the simple surprise kick as originally described.

With Kaidan shirtless the whole time of course.  After all the hot babes in tight fitting outfits, fair is fair after all.

[Han Shot First]

iakus wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

Mimitochan wrote...

My headcanon is that Kaidan was wearing a shirt there.

What is funny is that Kaidan is more ripped in this artwork than  in ME1 Kaidan and yet this story took place when he was a teenager. You gotta love comics.

I fully expect the fight with Vyrnnus to be a full-on biotic kung-fu match, rather than the simple surprise kick as originally described.

With Kaidan shirtless the whole time of course.  After all the hot babes in tight fitting outfits, fair is fair after all.

...and it will be raining, even though the fight occurs indoors.

[Arcian]

Han Shot First wrote...

iakus wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

Mimitochan wrote...

My headcanon is that Kaidan was wearing a shirt there.

What is funny is that Kaidan is more ripped in this artwork than  in ME1 Kaidan and yet this story took place when he was a teenager. You gotta love comics.

I fully expect the fight with Vyrnnus to be a full-on biotic kung-fu match, rather than the simple surprise kick as originally described.

With Kaidan shirtless the whole time of course.  After all the hot babes in tight fitting outfits, fair is fair after all.

...and it will be raining, even though the fight occurs indoors.

Kaidan's literally so smoking hot that he sets off the sprinkler system?

[Estelindis]

When I saw the title of this topic, I was expecting it to be about how Kaidan fans should be excited about the comic because any attention Kaidan gets is a plus for us, but we can't quite muster such feelings because of how atrociously the Mass Effect comics have been written thus far. That's how I feel about it, anyway. I can understand trepidation about headcanon being overwritten, but frankly that's the least of our worries. We'll be lucky if actual canon is respected.

For the record, I've found all the Mass Effect DLC that I've played to be excellent and all the ME comics that I've read to be shockingly bad. Conversely, I've found most Dragon Age DLC to be very poor but the DA comics are, on the whole, great. Can't win 'em all?

On the actual subject, in case the OP is still reading, I suggest just waiting until it comes out and asking someone who's read it if it tramples on your dreams. If it does, avoid it.

Modifié par Estelindis, 16 juillet 2013 - 11:29 .

[Jhushx]

I don't see how people are saying Kaidan's sexual orientation was suddenly retconned in #3. Plenty of people come out later in life, or come to a cathartic realization that the reason they have been romantically unhappy/unlucky so far in life is because A.) They haven't found the right person and B.) They are shopping in the wrong department. Happens all the time in real life, especially where I live (Los Angeles).  Plus, if you're Kaidan's age (mid 30s), its only developmentally natural that you start thinking long term future - children, marriage, house with picket fence in British Columbia, etc.  Being relatively well-read, I also enjoyed Bioware using the old trope of brothers-in-arms:  The intense camraderie and care shared between soldiers in a foxhole during war, can transcend any physical or emotional love shared with a significant other.  The other soldier knows you right down to your core, because everything you were, are, or ever could've been, can be taken away in a violent second. 

Because of this exceptional circumstance, where the other grunt in the foxhole may very well be the last face you ever see again, the last warm embrace you ever enjoy, it results in a special type of love.  So yes, Kaidan realized that Shepard was the only one who was constantly there for him, and hence developed some serious bromance for him. 

I'm not gay or bisexual myself, but I really liked that Bioware added some depth to Kaidan's personality and character (though not enough imo, so this may be their way of compensating the fans).  Its literally character development .  In my headcanon, if Kaidan didn't get with Liara or Diane Allers, then Shepard and Vega will be the Best Men at the wedding of Major Kaidan Alenko and Lt. Steve Cortez in Vancouver.

And thanks to the OP for the link - will pre-order that baby ASAP.

Modifié par Jhushx, 16 juillet 2013 - 04:24 .

[Roivas_Alenko]

Kinda late in the topic ^^/

Kaidan might be hetero, gay (playing as mshep only, he never me,nentionned dating any girl), bi (if you can't dissociate Fshep & mshep sotyline), whatever, I understand OP concern.

If for Mshep in ME1, Rahna is some random girl, Kaidan clearly said to Fshep he NEVER dated Rhana. She was "special" to him yes (specail mean anything & nothing) but that "Maybe she felt the same, but…Things never fell together. Training. You know"

So I really hope they'll stick to that in the comic & not make Kaidan a liar by actually show us a romance that never existed.

[DuskWanderer]

I played through ME1 to ME3 with broShep and femShep, and I gotta say, I never saw a sexual interest in broShep from Kaidan. They got along, they were friendly, they trusted each other with their lives, but there was no sexual interest. Honestly, though, I think that's fine. Not everyone wants to bone Shepard.

As for the story, it's nice that, after millions of comics giving us Liara, Aria, or some other random skank, we get to see the VS. They really got the shaft when it came to character development.

[Roivas_Alenko]

It's funny because the first time i played ME1, I didn't knew Kaidan couldn't be romanced by mshep, but I though that some time the sexual tension was there. And If you miss the interest in broshep from Kaidan in ME3, I suggest you try it again because it's more than obvious.

Modifié par roivasff14, 22 juillet 2013 - 02:41 .

[DuskWanderer]

I did, like I said. Until the scene at Apollo's, I never got an interest that Kaidan's relationship with Shepard was any more than platonic. Like I said, though, that's perfectly fine. Relationships don't need to be purely romance

[DuskWanderer]

 On a side note, I think I know how this is going to tie into the Citadel DLC

We will meet Mike Hazer "the Lazer", and we'll know why he owed Kaidan money. 

[conjmk]

Morocco Mole wrote...

roivasff14 wrote...

It's funny because the first time i played ME1, I didn't knew Kaidan couldn't be romanced by mshep, but I though that some time the sexual tension was there. And If you miss the interest in broshep from Kaidan in ME3, I suggest you try it again because it's more than obvious.

This is because they never cared to change the dialog around much from femshep to maleshep since it would cost more time and money to record seperate lines.

Right, so lets just totally disregard his potantial attractions to broshep in straight male gamer's playthroughs, right? even though he clearly still has them.

The bottom line is Kaidan is a bisexaul character, you cannot change and cannon characteristics about NPC's that are already established. He's bisexual. Period.

[conjmk]

Morocco Mole wrote...

The bottom line is Kaidan is a bisexaul character, you cannot change and cannon characteristics about NPC's that are already established. He's bisexual. Period.

But Bioware did it to make him bisexual in the first place.

Oh god, do we really have to keep going over this for the ten thousandth time? You can have his S/S reomance on the PC without even having to mod it. the lines and scenes are all there. Bioware chickened out in the first game and decided not to have him come out until the 3rd installment. 

He's a Bisexual NPC, deal with it.

Modifié par conjmk, 23 juillet 2013 - 12:00 .